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Re: NBA Playoffs 2019-2020
« Reply #1320 on: September 09, 2020, 11:20:26 AM »

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Watching the Western Conference games, I have to say, if Boston makes the Finals, I love their chances to win it all. No one out there plays defense and Boston's elite defense should be able to shut down the offenses I have seen. The C's also went .500 against the supposedly elite LA teams and I think Boston is playing much better now than they were at the time of facing those teams during the regular season.

Of course, if Lebron can just yell at a ref and get him to change his call, well, that may be problematic. That change of call on the out of bounds play where Lebron fouled the Houston player and then it went off his head out of bounds was ridiculous. Yes, it did go out of bounds off the Houston player but my word, Lebron hacked the crap out of that guy and no foul was called.

That ref crew last night was just awful. They got bullied by Lebron all night and missed several offensive foul calls against the Lakers.

I was going to ask how the lakers defense has looked.  I just can't stand listening to the lovefest from the announcers and can't stand seeing lebron cry about everything so I only check scores on my phone.  Looked like it was pretty close until playoff rondo heated up.

I actually think the Clippers would be a tougher match up (assuming the Celtics get past Toronto and Miami) but I just can't stomach even the possibility of losing to the lakers or them winning it over Miami.  As great as 2008 felt, 2010 hurt so much more.

Re: NBA Playoffs 2019-2020
« Reply #1321 on: September 09, 2020, 11:39:56 AM »

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Well, my first class of the semester was something. There's about 75 students in the class and it's done on ZOOM obviously. The first half hour the professor did the usual intro, syllabus discussion, etc. Then after that he said he had nothing else for today and then basically started talking about random things with all of us, including sports LOL. Turns out he's a Rockets fan (from the area and there right now too) so he obviously was sad after last night  :P
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Re: NBA Playoffs 2019-2020
« Reply #1322 on: September 09, 2020, 11:54:12 AM »

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Anyone else surprised that Miami was able to score so much on defensive juggernauts Brook Lopez and Drew Bledsoe?  ::)

It's absurd that these two made all-NBA defensive teams this season.

Agree

Lowry should have made it over Bledsoe
IMO it should have been Jrue
Agreed, but Bledsoe was contender for the selection. This surge of "hurr Lopez and Bledsoe are overrated defensively" reeks of winning bias, both were excellent in the regular season and weren't poor in the playoffs - if you're sceptical about their defence in the playoffs this season, both held strong against a strong Boston offence and the eventual champions last playoffs.

Well, regardless of whatever transpired in the playoffs, Lopez was unworthy of the award.

That someone as mediocre on defense as Lopez can be voted as 2nd team All-Defense on the strength of his team's overall defensive prowess is just so pathetic. The voters should be ashamed they aren't capable of anything more than superficial analysis. Lopez is replacement level on that end of the court, he is not elite or even above average.

This is basically the equivalent of Rhttps://forum.celticsstrong.com/Themes/celtic/images/bbc/italicize.gifay Allen being voted as All-Defense on the back of Garnett's otherworldly abilities. Giannis apparently is so good he can make a sieve look like a brick wall.
That comparison makes absolutely no sense - Lopez has become a fantastic rim protector in Milwaukee, he improved as a player. Sure Giannis was there as a free safety to help him out, but saying that Lopez is replacement level defensively leads me to believe that your outburst is an apt description of yourself.
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Re: NBA Playoffs 2019-2020
« Reply #1323 on: September 09, 2020, 12:57:37 PM »

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Anyone else surprised that Miami was able to score so much on defensive juggernauts Brook Lopez and Drew Bledsoe?  ::)

It's absurd that these two made all-NBA defensive teams this season.

Agree

Lowry should have made it over Bledsoe
IMO it should have been Jrue
Agreed, but Bledsoe was contender for the selection. This surge of "hurr Lopez and Bledsoe are overrated defensively" reeks of winning bias, both were excellent in the regular season and weren't poor in the playoffs - if you're sceptical about their defence in the playoffs this season, both held strong against a strong Boston offence and the eventual champions last playoffs.

Well, regardless of whatever transpired in the playoffs, Lopez was unworthy of the award.

That someone as mediocre on defense as Lopez can be voted as 2nd team All-Defense on the strength of his team's overall defensive prowess is just so pathetic. The voters should be ashamed they aren't capable of anything more than superficial analysis. Lopez is replacement level on that end of the court, he is not elite or even above average.

This is basically the equivalent of Rhttps://forum.celticsstrong.com/Themes/celtic/images/bbc/italicize.gifay Allen being voted as All-Defense on the back of Garnett's otherworldly abilities. Giannis apparently is so good he can make a sieve look like a brick wall.
That comparison makes absolutely no sense - Lopez has become a fantastic rim protector in Milwaukee, he improved as a player. Sure Giannis was there as a free safety to help him out, but saying that Lopez is replacement level defensively leads me to believe that your outburst is an apt description of yourself.

Outburst? I'm not even sure what you are talking about here. My point was conveyed quite calmly and succinctly.

Anyways, if the best defense for your position is to levy personal attacks it seems pretty obvious you can't backup your position with logic. If that's the best you can do you should probably just move on.

Re: NBA Playoffs 2019-2020
« Reply #1324 on: September 09, 2020, 11:10:31 PM »

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Clippers 73 vs 58 Nuggets 3rd quarter with several minutes to go

Clippers know how to hold a lead unlike the Celtics

Re: NBA Playoffs 2019-2020
« Reply #1325 on: September 09, 2020, 11:20:11 PM »

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Anyone else surprised that Miami was able to score so much on defensive juggernauts Brook Lopez and Drew Bledsoe?  ::)

It's absurd that these two made all-NBA defensive teams this season.

Agree

Lowry should have made it over Bledsoe
IMO it should have been Jrue
Agreed, but Bledsoe was contender for the selection. This surge of "hurr Lopez and Bledsoe are overrated defensively" reeks of winning bias, both were excellent in the regular season and weren't poor in the playoffs - if you're sceptical about their defence in the playoffs this season, both held strong against a strong Boston offence and the eventual champions last playoffs.

Well, regardless of whatever transpired in the playoffs, Lopez was unworthy of the award.

That someone as mediocre on defense as Lopez can be voted as 2nd team All-Defense on the strength of his team's overall defensive prowess is just so pathetic. The voters should be ashamed they aren't capable of anything more than superficial analysis. Lopez is replacement level on that end of the court, he is not elite or even above average.

This is basically the equivalent of Rhttps://forum.celticsstrong.com/Themes/celtic/images/bbc/italicize.gifay Allen being voted as All-Defense on the back of Garnett's otherworldly abilities. Giannis apparently is so good he can make a sieve look like a brick wall.
That comparison makes absolutely no sense - Lopez has become a fantastic rim protector in Milwaukee, he improved as a player. Sure Giannis was there as a free safety to help him out, but saying that Lopez is replacement level defensively leads me to believe that your outburst is an apt description of yourself.

Outburst? I'm not even sure what you are talking about here. My point was conveyed quite calmly and succinctly.

Anyways, if the best defense for your position is to levy personal attacks it seems pretty obvious you can't backup your position with logic. If that's the best you can do you should probably just move on.
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That someone as mediocre on defense as Lopez can be voted as 2nd team All-Defense on the strength of his team's overall defensive prowess is just so pathetic. The voters should be ashamed they aren't capable of anything more than superficial analysis.
Yes, a personal attack at the analytical abilities of voters without backing up your position without logical arguments but sweeping narratives such as "Brook Lopez is replacement level defensively" sure sounds like calmly and succinctly conveying a point.

But yeah, if your best defence for your position is to contradict your own posts and defending such contradictions by accusing others of personal attacks when they are pointed out, we should probably move on :laugh:
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Re: NBA Playoffs 2019-2020
« Reply #1326 on: September 09, 2020, 11:32:27 PM »

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Clippers 73 vs 58 Nuggets 3rd quarter with several minutes to go

Clippers know how to hold a lead unlike the Celtics

Sheesh I hope this Clippers team smack the Lakers next round. It would still be sickening to see the Lakers advance to the Final Four while Boston gets bounced by Toronto.


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Re: NBA Playoffs 2019-2020
« Reply #1327 on: September 10, 2020, 01:19:17 AM »

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Rockets' F Danuel House could very likely miss rest of the Rockets/Lakers series because of bubble protocol violations.

What an idiot that he might've snuck somebody into the bubble. He's gonna be the reason why Houston loses the series


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Re: NBA Playoffs 2019-2020
« Reply #1328 on: September 10, 2020, 04:50:07 AM »

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Clippers 73 vs 58 Nuggets 3rd quarter with several minutes to go

Clippers know how to hold a lead unlike the Celtics

Sheesh I hope this Clippers team smack the Lakers next round. It would still be sickening to see the Lakers advance to the Final Four while Boston gets bounced by Toronto.

I agree, If for some force of destiny and Toronto beats Boston, Id rather have the Raptors defend their title and beat the cHeat....And of course between the 2 LA teams, much prefer the Clippers advance.

A Raptors v Clippers Final will be  a redemption and vindication series as its got Kawhi involved both as an ex defending champ then going up against a team trying to prove they can win without Kawhi.

Re: NBA Playoffs 2019-2020
« Reply #1329 on: September 10, 2020, 09:24:27 AM »

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Anyone else surprised that Miami was able to score so much on defensive juggernauts Brook Lopez and Drew Bledsoe?  ::)

It's absurd that these two made all-NBA defensive teams this season.

Agree

Lowry should have made it over Bledsoe
IMO it should have been Jrue
Agreed, but Bledsoe was contender for the selection. This surge of "hurr Lopez and Bledsoe are overrated defensively" reeks of winning bias, both were excellent in the regular season and weren't poor in the playoffs - if you're sceptical about their defence in the playoffs this season, both held strong against a strong Boston offence and the eventual champions last playoffs.

Well, regardless of whatever transpired in the playoffs, Lopez was unworthy of the award.

That someone as mediocre on defense as Lopez can be voted as 2nd team All-Defense on the strength of his team's overall defensive prowess is just so pathetic. The voters should be ashamed they aren't capable of anything more than superficial analysis. Lopez is replacement level on that end of the court, he is not elite or even above average.

This is basically the equivalent of Rhttps://forum.celticsstrong.com/Themes/celtic/images/bbc/italicize.gifay Allen being voted as All-Defense on the back of Garnett's otherworldly abilities. Giannis apparently is so good he can make a sieve look like a brick wall.
That comparison makes absolutely no sense - Lopez has become a fantastic rim protector in Milwaukee, he improved as a player. Sure Giannis was there as a free safety to help him out, but saying that Lopez is replacement level defensively leads me to believe that your outburst is an apt description of yourself.

Outburst? I'm not even sure what you are talking about here. My point was conveyed quite calmly and succinctly.

Anyways, if the best defense for your position is to levy personal attacks it seems pretty obvious you can't backup your position with logic. If that's the best you can do you should probably just move on.
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That someone as mediocre on defense as Lopez can be voted as 2nd team All-Defense on the strength of his team's overall defensive prowess is just so pathetic. The voters should be ashamed they aren't capable of anything more than superficial analysis.
Yes, a personal attack at the analytical abilities of voters without backing up your position without logical arguments but sweeping narratives such as "Brook Lopez is replacement level defensively" sure sounds like calmly and succinctly conveying a point.

But yeah, if your best defence for your position is to contradict your own posts and defending such contradictions by accusing others of personal attacks when they are pointed out, we should probably move on :laugh:

LOL...this is sad just so sad.

But yes, lets move on.  I've already wasted enough time here. Momma always said, don't feed the trolls.

Re: NBA Playoffs 2019-2020
« Reply #1330 on: September 10, 2020, 08:13:12 PM »

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Looks like both LA teams are on their way to winning their series in 5 games
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Re: NBA Playoffs 2019-2020
« Reply #1331 on: September 10, 2020, 08:14:57 PM »

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Looks like both LA teams are on their way to winning their series in 5 games

I suspect the Rockets can get one more game in this series but that's it

Re: NBA Playoffs 2019-2020
« Reply #1332 on: September 10, 2020, 08:21:17 PM »

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Looks like both LA teams are on their way to winning their series in 5 games

I suspect the Rockets can get one more game in this series but that's it

Maybe, but yet again Harden isn't doing much when they need it. I know Westbrook's had a lousy series but Harden's supposed to be the best scorer in the history of the NBA along with Jordan. Yet again though looks like a pumpkin in the playoffs. He has 10 points so far thanks to 8 FTs. Otherwise shooting 1-7.
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Re: NBA Playoffs 2019-2020
« Reply #1333 on: September 10, 2020, 08:26:37 PM »

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Looks like both LA teams are on their way to winning their series in 5 games

I suspect the Rockets can get one more game in this series but that's it

Maybe, but yet again Harden isn't doing much when they need it. I know Westbrook's had a lousy series but Harden's supposed to be the best scorer in the history of the NBA along with Jordan. Yet again though looks like a pumpkin in the playoffs. He has 10 points so far thanks to 8 FTs. Otherwise shooting 1-7.

Oh for sure, Harden has come up small in the playoffs numerous times.  The times the Rockets have made the conference finals is because they had a legit 2nd star those seasons (Dwight/CP3).  If he could ever be bothered to play like a star in the playoffs he'd probably already have a title.

But I do suspect if they go down 3-1 he might play loose and the Lakers might coast a bit.

Re: NBA Playoffs 2019-2020
« Reply #1334 on: September 10, 2020, 08:34:56 PM »

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Looks like both LA teams are on their way to winning their series in 5 games

I suspect the Rockets can get one more game in this series but that's it

Maybe, but yet again Harden isn't doing much when they need it. I know Westbrook's had a lousy series but Harden's supposed to be the best scorer in the history of the NBA along with Jordan. Yet again though looks like a pumpkin in the playoffs. He has 10 points so far thanks to 8 FTs. Otherwise shooting 1-7.

Oh for sure, Harden has come up small in the playoffs numerous times.  The times the Rockets have made the conference finals is because they had a legit 2nd star those seasons (Dwight/CP3).  If he could ever be bothered to play like a star in the playoffs he'd probably already have a title.

But I do suspect if they go down 3-1 he might play loose and the Lakers might coast a bit.
Harden has always crap the bed at some of the most inopportune times in the playoffs. Heck, he's lucky that his teammates bailed him out against the Thunder in game 7, or they might have been a first round exit.
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