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Given the case outlined would you conisder trading Gordon Hayward?

Yes, but only for the right pieces.
35 (44.3%)
Yes, to give the Jays room to grow, even for a subpar return.
6 (7.6%)
No, because I think we can win it all this year
12 (15.2%)
No, but only because I dont think we find a trade that makes sense.
26 (32.9%)

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Re: The Case for Trading Gordon Hayward (Hear Me Out)
« Reply #105 on: January 12, 2020, 07:35:32 PM »

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He is not even close to the player he was in Utah before and after the injury

Plays slow with no elevation at the rim and is not the shooter he was once was

Get what you can for salary relief

The player is done
You realise this is his most efficient season scoring the ball?

Not to mention his passing is at its best for his career. Turning it over much less than he did at Utah while maintaining similar assist averages.

If you’re going to rail on him at least make it not so easy to refute


Stats don’t tell us anything

The eye test says he is done!

Epic failure at all levels

Bye bye Gordy
I guess your eye test being the be-all and end-all of talent assessment is why you’re an NBA GM!

Gouk, it doesn't do any good to argue with one of IDreamCeltics' burner accounts.

Re: The Case for Trading Gordon Hayward (Hear Me Out)
« Reply #106 on: January 12, 2020, 07:53:03 PM »

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He is not even close to the player he was in Utah before and after the injury

Plays slow with no elevation at the rim and is not the shooter he was once was

Get what you can for salary relief

The player is done
You realise this is his most efficient season scoring the ball?

Not to mention his passing is at its best for his career. Turning it over much less than he did at Utah while maintaining similar assist averages.

If you’re going to rail on him at least make it not so easy to refute


Stats don’t tell us anything

The eye test says he is done!

Epic failure at all levels

Bye bye Gordy

Care to predict when he’ll be gone?
'I was proud of Marcus Smart. He did a great job of keeping us together. He might not get credit for this game, but the pace that he played at, and his playcalling, some of the plays that he called were great. We obviously have to rely on him, so I’m definitely looking forward to Marcus leading this team in that role.' - Jaylen Brown, January 2021

Re: The Case for Trading Gordon Hayward (Hear Me Out)
« Reply #107 on: January 12, 2020, 08:01:06 PM »

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He is not even close to the player he was in Utah before and after the injury

Plays slow with no elevation at the rim and is not the shooter he was once was

Get what you can for salary relief

The player is done
You realise this is his most efficient season scoring the ball?

Not to mention his passing is at its best for his career. Turning it over much less than he did at Utah while maintaining similar assist averages.

If you’re going to rail on him at least make it not so easy to refute


Stats don’t tell us anything

The eye test says he is done!

Epic failure at all levels

Bye bye Gordy
I guess your eye test being the be-all and end-all of talent assessment is why you’re an NBA GM!

Gouk, it doesn't do any good to argue with one of IDreamCeltics' burner accounts.
Rofl, TP!
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Re: The Case for Trading Gordon Hayward (Hear Me Out)
« Reply #108 on: January 12, 2020, 08:22:11 PM »

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He is not even close to the player he was in Utah before and after the injury

Plays slow with no elevation at the rim and is not the shooter he was once was

Get what you can for salary relief

The player is done
You realise this is his most efficient season scoring the ball?

Not to mention his passing is at its best for his career. Turning it over much less than he did at Utah while maintaining similar assist averages.

If you’re going to rail on him at least make it not so easy to refute


Stats don’t tell us anything

The eye test says he is done!

Epic failure at all levels

Bye bye Gordy
I guess your eye test being the be-all and end-all of talent assessment is why you’re an NBA GM!

Gouk, it doesn't do any good to argue with one of IDreamCeltics' burner accounts.
Says the burner account of..........??? 🤨🤔😉😁

Re: The Case for Trading Gordon Hayward (Hear Me Out)
« Reply #109 on: January 12, 2020, 08:22:12 PM »

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I find it interesting that the OP says that it’s crazy to trade Hayward when if there were a trade, he’s the guy most people would choose.  I guess he’s trying to make this sound like a hot take when it isn’t.

If I was trying to make a trade to make us a contender this year, I wouldn’t trade Hayward.  I would trade brown or Tatum.  I trust Hayward considerably more than either brown or Tatum to be consistently good in the playoffs.
« Last Edit: January 12, 2020, 08:29:10 PM by droopdog7 »

Re: The Case for Trading Gordon Hayward (Hear Me Out)
« Reply #110 on: January 12, 2020, 08:25:32 PM »

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He is not even close to the player he was in Utah before and after the injury

Plays slow with no elevation at the rim and is not the shooter he was once was

Get what you can for salary relief

The player is done
You realise this is his most efficient season scoring the ball?

Not to mention his passing is at its best for his career. Turning it over much less than he did at Utah while maintaining similar assist averages.

If you’re going to rail on him at least make it not so easy to refute


Stats don’t tell us anything

The eye test says he is done!

Epic failure at all levels

Bye bye Gordy
I guess your eye test being the be-all and end-all of talent assessment is why you’re an NBA GM!

Gouk, it doesn't do any good to argue with one of IDreamCeltics' burner accounts.
Says the burner account of..........??? 🤨🤔😉😁

Nah, no burner account. Just longtime lurker from the old CelticsBlog days that was finally able to get an account to work on this new(er) site.

Re: The Case for Trading Gordon Hayward (Hear Me Out)
« Reply #111 on: January 12, 2020, 08:35:00 PM »

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All this talk about trading Hayward. And I bet you Ainge isn't even considering it one bit regardless the circumstances :laugh:
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Re: The Case for Trading Gordon Hayward (Hear Me Out)
« Reply #112 on: January 12, 2020, 09:55:15 PM »

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All this talk about trading Hayward. And I bet you Ainge isn't even considering it one bit regardless the circumstances :laugh:

agree...if he is , its pillow talk only

Re: The Case for Trading Gordon Hayward (Hear Me Out)
« Reply #113 on: January 13, 2020, 05:49:55 AM »

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Because of his contract situation his value may be even lower than it should be.  I’d play this year out, re-sign him in the offseason to a multi year deal, and can revisit trading him in the future if you want.  Plus Theis and Kanter are holding their own at center and we’ll get Robert Williams back at some point.

Really??? Yikes! I don’t think Hayward will come cheap
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Re: The Case for Trading Gordon Hayward (Hear Me Out)
« Reply #114 on: January 13, 2020, 07:17:37 AM »

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2 trades that works in trade machine with OKC
1- Adams and Roberson for Hayward
2- Gallinari, Noel & Roberson for Hayward
C/PF-Horford, Baynes, Noel, Theis, Morris,
SF/SG- Tatum, Brown, Hayward, Smart, Semi, Clark
PG- Irving, Rozier, Larkin

Re: The Case for Trading Gordon Hayward (Hear Me Out)
« Reply #115 on: January 13, 2020, 07:55:36 AM »

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Roberson has bad knees.

Re: The Case for Trading Gordon Hayward (Hear Me Out)
« Reply #116 on: January 13, 2020, 08:13:31 AM »

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Roberson has bad knees.
He does but got to take his contract if u want either Adams or Gallinari
C/PF-Horford, Baynes, Noel, Theis, Morris,
SF/SG- Tatum, Brown, Hayward, Smart, Semi, Clark
PG- Irving, Rozier, Larkin

Re: The Case for Trading Gordon Hayward (Hear Me Out)
« Reply #117 on: January 13, 2020, 09:24:47 AM »

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2 trades that works in trade machine with OKC
1- Adams and Roberson for Hayward
2- Gallinari, Noel & Roberson for Hayward
What are we supposed to do with three players and the roster?

Re: The Case for Trading Gordon Hayward (Hear Me Out)
« Reply #118 on: January 13, 2020, 09:31:13 AM »

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2 trades that works in trade machine with OKC
1- Adams and Roberson for Hayward
2- Gallinari, Noel & Roberson for Hayward
What are we supposed to do with three players and the roster?
I assume waive Roberson/Poirier?

Roberson is done as a NBA player I fear, and if you're trading for Noel its to replace a C. I wouldn't do that deal myself, I don't think Gallinari is even an upgrade over Hayward similar value players. Gallo provides more FTAs and 3s and Hayward more passing.

Re: The Case for Trading Gordon Hayward (Hear Me Out)
« Reply #119 on: January 13, 2020, 09:32:04 AM »

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Roberson has bad knees.
Not just bad knees, he's going to have to retire knees. Sucks he was fun player to watch on the defensive end. Bigger Tony Allen at his peak.