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Re: How long before Jaylen is better than Kawhi
« Reply #15 on: November 19, 2019, 10:44:45 AM »

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Re: How long before Jaylen is better than Kawhi
« Reply #16 on: November 19, 2019, 10:51:15 AM »

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Never.  I think he can be a multiple year all-star but I don't see him ever becoming a top 3 player in the NBA. 


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Re: How long before Jaylen is better than Kawhi
« Reply #17 on: November 19, 2019, 11:04:13 AM »

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For your enjoyment...

https://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.fcgi?request=1&sum=0&player_id1_hint=Jaylen+Brown&player_id1_select=Jaylen+Brown&player_id1=brownja02&y1=2020&player_id2_hint=Kawhi+Leonard&player_id2_select=Kawhi+Leonard&y2=2015&player_id2=leonaka01&idx=players
 
Jaylen at 19.5, 7.3, 2.3, 1.1, and .3
Leonard at 16.5, 7.2, 2.5, 2.3, and .8

Jaylen at 50/39/74 shooting splits
Leonard at 48/35/80 shooting splits

The big difference is defense. When Jaylen locks in he gets pretty close to Leonard's level defensively. Problem is he paces himself and doesn't always lock in.

Re: How long before Jaylen is better than Kawhi
« Reply #18 on: November 19, 2019, 11:12:39 AM »

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Never. I don't think he has the physical size or strength to replicate Kawhai's game. I also don't think MVP level player is a realistic expectation for his growth.

My feeling is Jaylen's ceiling is an All-Star with fringe All-NBA aspirations. Like about the level of Kemba albeit different game in a different position. Which is a really high ceiling! Just not in that super-elite tier.

Re: How long before Jaylen is better than Kawhi
« Reply #19 on: November 19, 2019, 11:15:09 AM »

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Never

He is Iggy part 2 pretty much

Re: How long before Jaylen is better than Kawhi
« Reply #20 on: November 19, 2019, 11:33:36 AM »

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He already is..... Kawhi wants to be seriously compared to other players he needs to stop gaming the system and play 82 games. Lets see just how good he is when he goes the entire season. Didnt Kawhi just take a whole season off when his team claimed he was good to go.

It is not fair to compare Kawhi to other players when he has only played an average of 30 games a season the last two seasons and the other players are playing 82 games.

Re: How long before Jaylen is better than Kawhi
« Reply #21 on: November 19, 2019, 11:38:00 AM »

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If Jaylen is in the league after Kawhi retires then probably then? Or if Kawhi has major chronic injury problems but let's not get into that.  Otherwise lol not happening.

You should take the 'if' off your major chronic injury problems unless you do not believe Kawhi and the NBA who have told you he has a chronic injury problem that requires load management.

Re: How long before Jaylen is better than Kawhi
« Reply #22 on: November 19, 2019, 11:58:25 AM »

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Kawhi literally has the ability to go down as a top 10-20 player of all-time when all is said and done.

I love Brown, but come on.

Re: How long before Jaylen is better than Kawhi
« Reply #23 on: November 19, 2019, 11:59:24 AM »

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Kawhi literally has the ability to go down as a top 10-20 player of all-time when all is said and done.

I love Brown, but come on.

with an asterisk .... couldnt play a whole season.

Re: How long before Jaylen is better than Kawhi
« Reply #24 on: November 19, 2019, 12:01:15 PM »

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Infinity? 

I wouldn't hold your breath on that one.  Maybe if Kawhi falls off in his mid thirties and Jaylen is still going strong at that point, but that's so far out you never know.  Kawhi could be one of those superstars who manages to play his game well into his later career, whereas Jaylen might not hold up.
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Re: How long before Jaylen is better than Kawhi
« Reply #25 on: November 19, 2019, 12:02:20 PM »

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He already is..... Kawhi wants to be seriously compared to other players he needs to stop gaming the system and play 82 games. Lets see just how good he is when he goes the entire season. Didnt Kawhi just take a whole season off when his team claimed he was good to go.

It is not fair to compare Kawhi to other players when he has only played an average of 30 games a season the last two seasons and the other players are playing 82 games.
See, if fans of other teams ever lurk on our forum, it's posts like these that are absolutely embarrassing.

Jaylen Brown is not even in Kawhi Leonard's stratosphere.

Re: How long before Jaylen is better than Kawhi
« Reply #26 on: November 19, 2019, 12:14:44 PM »

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Maybe never, but maybe when Jaylen is 30-31 and Kawhi is 35-36?

Re: How long before Jaylen is better than Kawhi
« Reply #27 on: November 19, 2019, 12:28:16 PM »

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Ain't happening..

He will be better than Butler though.

Re: How long before Jaylen is better than Kawhi
« Reply #28 on: November 19, 2019, 12:35:29 PM »

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He already is..... Kawhi wants to be seriously compared to other players he needs to stop gaming the system and play 82 games. Lets see just how good he is when he goes the entire season. Didnt Kawhi just take a whole season off when his team claimed he was good to go.

It is not fair to compare Kawhi to other players when he has only played an average of 30 games a season the last two seasons and the other players are playing 82 games.
See, if fans of other teams ever lurk on our forum, it's posts like these that are absolutely embarrassing.

Jaylen Brown is not even in Kawhi Leonard's stratosphere.

Is he not more durable? So he is better in that regard.

Re: How long before Jaylen is better than Kawhi
« Reply #29 on: November 19, 2019, 01:07:44 PM »

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Ain't happening..

He will be better than Butler though.

That is where I am at. I hope a realistic approximation of Jaylen's ceiling is somewhere between Butler and Kawhi. If I am being honest with myself, he will obviously be towards Butler on that spectrum. That ceiling has the makings of a fantastic second banana.
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