Would you have preferred Ainge gone in this direction during offseason?

[Fierce1]

So, about 20 days till 10 million or so in salary can be cleared (Enes, Brad W, Javonte, Poirier).

Does anyone think we will try to make a move for a big after December 15 (or before the deadline) or is it too early to say?

There really isn't much value at the moment in terms of guys who are realistically available in the areas we need (defense, rebounding). I would say the only option which I would even consider if probably Cody Zeller, but even that contract looks a little bloated.

Of course Adams is the dream, but not sure we can move enough salary...

Adams is not possible.

Cody Zeller is expensive.

A cheap option would be to trade Poirier and a pick for Willie Cauley-Stein.

If the Celts continue to win with the current roster, I think Ainge will not make a trade in December.

Right now Celts are on pace to win 60 games.

[Jvalin]

Does anyone think we will try to make a move for a big after December 15 (or before the deadline) or is it too early to say?

On the one hand I believe Timelord has the potential to become a starting-caliber Center in this league for years to come. I would love us to give him time to develop his game. On the other hand, he's not ready to play big minutes in the playoffs this season. As things stand right now, we have no one to defend Giannis-Brook Lopez / Horford-Embiid.

If Danny believes that we are ready to contend straight away, I guess he should make a trade for a starting Center. If he believes we're 1-2 seasons away, I guess there's no need to jump the gun with a trade.

Personally speaking, I believe we are ready to contend straight away. If a guy like Myles Turner becomes available, I would go after him. We would probably have to sacrifice a guy from our 5-man core, but at the end of the day I believe it would be worth it. 

[Fierce1]

Does anyone think we will try to make a move for a big after December 15 (or before the deadline) or is it too early to say?

On the one hand I believe Timelord has the potential to become a starting-caliber Center in this league for years to come. I would love us to give him time to develop his game. On the other hand, he's not ready to play big minutes in the playoffs this season. As things stand right now, we have no one to defend Giannis-Brook Lopez / Horford-Embiid.

If Danny believes that we are ready to contend straight away, I guess he should make a trade for a starting Center. If he believes we're 1-2 seasons away, I guess there's no need to jump the gun with a trade.

Personally speaking, I believe we are ready to contend straight away. If a guy like Myles Turner becomes available, I would go after him. We would probably have to sacrifice a guy from our 5-man core, but at the end of the day I believe it would be worth it.

I read an article that if and only if the Pacers are to trade Myles Turner, they would not trade him to an eastern team.

The 5-man core of Kemba, Tatum, Hayward, Brown, and Smart should remain untouchables right now.
Celts are playing well and winning games.
So it's really not a good idea to mess up a good thing.

[Jvalin]

Does anyone think we will try to make a move for a big after December 15 (or before the deadline) or is it too early to say?

On the one hand I believe Timelord has the potential to become a starting-caliber Center in this league for years to come. I would love us to give him time to develop his game. On the other hand, he's not ready to play big minutes in the playoffs this season. As things stand right now, we have no one to defend Giannis-Brook Lopez / Horford-Embiid.

If Danny believes that we are ready to contend straight away, I guess he should make a trade for a starting Center. If he believes we're 1-2 seasons away, I guess there's no need to jump the gun with a trade.

Personally speaking, I believe we are ready to contend straight away. If a guy like Myles Turner becomes available, I would go after him. We would probably have to sacrifice a guy from our 5-man core, but at the end of the day I believe it would be worth it.

I read an article that if and only if the Pacers are to trade Myles Turner, they would not trade him to an eastern team.

The 5-man core of Kemba, Tatum, Hayward, Brown, and Smart should remain untouchables right now.
Celts are playing well and winning games.
So it's really not a good idea to mess up a good thing.

You mean like when the Cavs would only trade Kyrie to a western team?

Our biggest rivals in the East are the Bucks and the Sixers. They are both very strong at the 4-5 positions. Last season the C's had Horford-Baynes. This season we have Theis, Timelord, Kanter and Poirier. I trust none of these guys to defend Giannis-Brook Lopez / Horford-Embiid. Do you guys trust them? That's all I'm saying.

Let's say Myles Turner becomes available.

Smart + Langford for Myles Turner. Who says no?

Smart and Brown are my favourite Celtics right now. I absolutely love his game. He's our best defender and our best passer. Having said that, I would probably do that trade.

Kemba
Brown
Tatum
Hayward
Turner

That's a far more balanced team than the one that we have right now.

[ederson]

I don't have any real reasons that make sense but I don't want to trade Smart. To me it seems he is the heart of the team. And he is a good player...

[gpap]

Does anyone think we will try to make a move for a big after December 15 (or before the deadline) or is it too early to say?

On the one hand I believe Timelord has the potential to become a starting-caliber Center in this league for years to come. I would love us to give him time to develop his game. On the other hand, he's not ready to play big minutes in the playoffs this season. As things stand right now, we have no one to defend Giannis-Brook Lopez / Horford-Embiid.

If Danny believes that we are ready to contend straight away, I guess he should make a trade for a starting Center. If he believes we're 1-2 seasons away, I guess there's no need to jump the gun with a trade.

Personally speaking, I believe we are ready to contend straight away. If a guy like Myles Turner becomes available, I would go after him. We would probably have to sacrifice a guy from our 5-man core, but at the end of the day I believe it would be worth it.

I read an article that if and only if the Pacers are to trade Myles Turner, they would not trade him to an eastern team.

The 5-man core of Kemba, Tatum, Hayward, Brown, and Smart should remain untouchables right now.
Celts are playing well and winning games.
So it's really not a good idea to mess up a good thing.

If a guy like Myles Turner became available, you absolutely try to get him. He's exactly what the Celtics need right now. A stretch 4 who can also play center (basically an Al Horford replacement, but younger.)

[Androslav]

Does anyone think we will try to make a move for a big after December 15 (or before the deadline) or is it too early to say?

On the one hand I believe Timelord has the potential to become a starting-caliber Center in this league for years to come. I would love us to give him time to develop his game. On the other hand, he's not ready to play big minutes in the playoffs this season. As things stand right now, we have no one to defend Giannis-Brook Lopez / Horford-Embiid.

If Danny believes that we are ready to contend straight away, I guess he should make a trade for a starting Center. If he believes we're 1-2 seasons away, I guess there's no need to jump the gun with a trade.

Personally speaking, I believe we are ready to contend straight away. If a guy like Myles Turner becomes available, I would go after him. We would probably have to sacrifice a guy from our 5-man core, but at the end of the day I believe it would be worth it.

I read an article that if and only if the Pacers are to trade Myles Turner, they would not trade him to an eastern team.

The 5-man core of Kemba, Tatum, Hayward, Brown, and Smart should remain untouchables right now.
Celts are playing well and winning games.
So it's really not a good idea to mess up a good thing.

If a guy like Myles Turner became available, you absolutely try to get him. He's exactly what the Celtics need right now. A stretch 4 who can also play center (basically an Al Horford replacement, but younger.)

I don't think that Myles Turner moves a needle.
He is not better player, cheaper nor a better fit here than Smart.
He is not a 4, he is a 5 that can't stop best fives (Embiid & Giannis are our most worrisome opponents) and he can't control defensive glass.

[Fafnir]

Turner isn't a 4 in any way, doesn't have the ball skills. He's a 5.

[gpap]

Yup, whatever......

[DefenseWinsChamps]

The dirty secret is that Miles Turner is a very inconsistent player on both ends of the court. He shows so much promise, but Pacer fans have been tired of his play for a while now.

[Fafnir]

The dirty secret is that Miles Turner is a very inconsistent player on both ends of the court. He shows so much promise, but Pacer fans have been tired of his play for a while now.

I think he's inconsistent offensively more than defensively. But his offense is definitely frustrating.

[td450]

Would the number have worked if we didn't pursue Kemba, but rather kept Baynes and went for Brogdon instead? That might have been the only realistic alternate strategy that would have made sense to me.

[Jvalin]

Would the number have worked if we didn't pursue Kemba, but rather kept Baynes and went for Brogdon instead? That might have been the only realistic alternate strategy that would have made sense to me.

TP! I really wanted us to go after Brogdon in free agency. Yes, that would have been a viable plan. As a matter of fact, we could have offered Brogdon the max and still have enough cap space to retain Baynes.

Brogdon's max would have started at $27,288,720.
Baynes salary for this season is $5,453,280.
Kemba's max started at $32,742,000.

$27,288,720 (Brogdon's max) + $5,453,280 (Baynes' salary) = 32,742,000 (Kemba's salary)

For what it's worth, Brogdon's actual salary this season starts at $20 million, but that's because the Bucks negotiated a sign and trade with the Pacers in exchange for future picks. If we were to sign Brogdon via free agency, chances are that his salary would have started north of $20 milllion.

Personally speaking, I don't like undersized guards (=Kemba) cause most of the times they are a liability on defense. Brogdon is a very good defender (especially when it comes to team defense). Not to mention, he's perfectly happy to take a secondary role on the offensive side of the ball and let his teammates flourish (Tatum-Brown-Hayward). He would have been a perfect fit for this team. But then again, Borgdon's style of play would have been the perfect fit for any team.

[gpap]

Would the number have worked if we didn't pursue Kemba, but rather kept Baynes and went for Brogdon instead? That might have been the only realistic alternate strategy that would have made sense to me.

TP! I really wanted us to go after Brogdon in free agency. Yes, that would have been a viable plan. As a matter of fact, we could have offered Brogdon the max and still have enough cap space to retain Baynes.

Brogdon's max would have started at $27,288,720.
Baynes salary for this season is $5,453,280.
Kemba's max started at $32,742,000.

$27,288,720 (Brogdon's max) + $5,453,280 (Baynes' salary) = 32,742,000 (Kemba's salary)

For what it's worth, Brogdon's actual salary this season starts at $20 million, but that's because the Bucks negotiated a sign and trade with the Pacers in exchange for future picks. If we were to sign Brogdon via free agency, chances are that his salary would have started north of $20 milllion.

Personally speaking, I don't like undersized guards (=Kemba) cause most of the times they are a liability on defense. Brogdon is a very good defender (especially when it comes to team defense). Not to mention, he's perfectly happy to take a secondary role on the offensive side of the ball and let his teammates flourish (Tatum-Brown-Hayward). He would have been a perfect fit for this team. But then again, Borgdon's style of play would have been the perfect fit for any team.

IMO, I take Kemba over Brogdon (and his injured foot) any day of the week.

[Jvalin]

Would the number have worked if we didn't pursue Kemba, but rather kept Baynes and went for Brogdon instead? That might have been the only realistic alternate strategy that would have made sense to me.

TP! I really wanted us to go after Brogdon in free agency. Yes, that would have been a viable plan. As a matter of fact, we could have offered Brogdon the max and still have enough cap space to retain Baynes.

Brogdon's max would have started at $27,288,720.
Baynes salary for this season is $5,453,280.
Kemba's max started at $32,742,000.

$27,288,720 (Brogdon's max) + $5,453,280 (Baynes' salary) = 32,742,000 (Kemba's salary)

For what it's worth, Brogdon's actual salary this season starts at $20 million, but that's because the Bucks negotiated a sign and trade with the Pacers in exchange for future picks. If we were to sign Brogdon via free agency, chances are that his salary would have started north of $20 milllion.

Personally speaking, I don't like undersized guards (=Kemba) cause most of the times they are a liability on defense. Brogdon is a very good defender (especially when it comes to team defense). Not to mention, he's perfectly happy to take a secondary role on the offensive side of the ball and let his teammates flourish (Tatum-Brown-Hayward). He would have been a perfect fit for this team. But then again, Borgdon's style of play would have been the perfect fit for any team.

IMO, I take Kemba over Brogdon (and his injured foot) any day of the week.

Fair enough.

Imo, Kemba is a better scorer and a better ball handler. He's also more explosive than Brogdon.
Brogdon is better at pretty much everything else: shooter, passer, defender, rebounder, you name it.

We already have plenty of scoring options in Tatum-Hayward-Brown-Kanter-Edwards. I would rather have Brogdon+Baynes than Kemba.