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Camelo Anthony in Portland (combined threads)
« on: November 14, 2019, 08:57:03 PM »

Offline MattyIce

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Portland is signing Carmelo Anthony, league source tells ESPN.

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1195158126904913920
« Last Edit: November 21, 2019, 10:54:47 PM by Moranis »

Re: Camelo signing with Portland
« Reply #1 on: November 14, 2019, 08:58:08 PM »

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Haha. Portland's forward rotation is going to get even worse!

Re: Camelo signing with Portland
« Reply #2 on: November 14, 2019, 08:58:55 PM »

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Ha. Thought he was still good enough to be on a team - this however, reeks of desperation 
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« Reply #3 on: November 14, 2019, 09:07:03 PM »

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agree. this seems like desperation.  will be crazy if it works though. interesting :)

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« Reply #4 on: November 14, 2019, 09:42:01 PM »

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He’s not the right fit.


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« Reply #5 on: November 14, 2019, 09:56:40 PM »

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I don't know that any team was really the right fit. His defense will be a problem, but the Blazers were definitely in need of a swing man and they are [supposed to be] a good team. I don't have a problem with this signing even if we all know it won't totally work out.

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« Reply #6 on: November 14, 2019, 09:57:48 PM »

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I'm gonna zag from the common thought here. Great signing. This could be a game-changer in the West. I don't think Melo is as washed up as the narrative says.

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« Reply #7 on: November 14, 2019, 10:50:32 PM »

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This Blazers team is not a good defensive team and they're adding Carmelo to it.

I mean I guess he could help a bit but I don't think much will happen.
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« Reply #8 on: November 14, 2019, 11:08:53 PM »

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It's just interesting to see LeBron, Wade and all the Carmello fan boys in the media get lathered up over this.  He's been out of the game too long, was well past his expiration date to begin with and has always been lazy when it comes to playing defense - which most teams work at in today's NBA. 

If he's still on Portland's roster by the end of January I'll be shocked.

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« Reply #9 on: November 15, 2019, 12:25:06 AM »

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I think his combination of spot up shooting and quick burst isolation scoring will be beneficial to the Blazers. They really need someone in their frontcourt to create their own offense. If Melo is locked in on defense and isn't a turnstile I can see him being a valuable rotation piece for the Blazers.
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« Reply #10 on: November 15, 2019, 02:37:22 AM »

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I think his combination of spot up shooting and quick burst isolation scoring will be beneficial to the Blazers. They really need someone in their frontcourt to create their own offense. If Melo is locked in on defense and isn't a turnstile I can see him being a valuable rotation piece for the Blazers.

Carmelo's efg is worse than Smart's and he has always been a stick on defense


At the age of 35 he is not going to change.

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« Reply #11 on: November 15, 2019, 04:29:15 AM »

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I'm happy for him and pulling for him and POR to succeed.

Carmelo Anthony is a future HOFer...won an NCAA title......has Olympic success.....has taken the Knicks further than anyone in recent memory (2nd round NBA playoffs, at BOS expense, no less).....

In the right setting and environment he will thrive and help his team.

Really pulling for him.



Put the NBA on notice, Melo!! Fit in and prove the doubters wrong!

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« Reply #12 on: November 15, 2019, 05:12:29 AM »

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When your team is struggling, just sign a guy that's not an NBA player anymore and everything will work out.
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« Reply #13 on: November 15, 2019, 06:08:10 AM »

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Poor Blazers fans, gonna destroy a few tvs in the coming months watching him chuck them out of games. Off topic but nonetheless - I just read some comments where people argued Melo was better than Pierce. Pretty funny

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« Reply #14 on: November 15, 2019, 07:56:30 AM »

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I don't think fit has anything to do with it. Melo is a bad player now regardless of fit and he has only himself to blame.

Players need to look after themselves and plan for their future as they get older. Adapt their games. Look after their body. Players who do not do so burn out much younger than they should. Like Antoine Walker did. This is what has happened with Melo.

During Melo's last two years in New York, he was the worst defensive forward in the league. This was while he was still scoring 20ppg. Given how bad his defense was, he was not improving his team way back then when still playing well on offense. Players have to become more positionally / fundamentally sound on defense as their legs get older and can cover less distance. Melo has never bothered to work on his defensive fundamentals. This is why he has only himself to blame.

Furthermore, when Melo was younger he was quite effective defensively when defending his opponent below 18 feet in large part due to his superior size and strength but struggled out around the three point line (again lack of defensive fundamentals) ... now the league is three point crazy and plays exactly where Melo has struggled most even during his physical prime and best defensive campaigns.

The next issue is with his offense. His ego is the problem here. He still thinks of himself (or at least did in OKC and HOU) as a 20ppg scorer and an All-Star talent. But he no longer has the legs to get around his opponents and get to the basket for easier hoops and FT attempts from drawing fouls. This leads to increase in contested jump-shots. Melo is one of the best contested jump-shooters in the league but this is the lowest percentage shot in basketball and he is relying on it more and more because his ego has stopped him from transitioning into a more role player friendly role.

Furthermore, in order to create some separation on those contested jump-shots Melo must hold the ball longer in order to size up his defender in order to make his move. This is typical for all scorers as they get older. They no longer have the quicks to get around people so they have to size him up and outsmart them. Same thing for guys like Charles Barkley. It makes Melo even more of a ball-stopper than he was in his prime (just as did with many other old timers such as Barkley).

Lastly, Melo hasn't taken good enough care of his body as he has gotten older. He was heavy in Houston, in OKC and during his final years in New York. He needed to slim down and get in better shape in order to play defense effectively.


Again, these are all self-inflicted issues. I love Melo. I really do. I have been a big fan of his throughout his career ... but his career is over and he only has himself to blame. His unwillingness to prepare for older age, to learn defensive fundamentals, to adapt his offensive game as he got older, to take care of his physical body in order to compete properly. All self inflicted.

Given how far behind the curve Melo was when he last played in the NBA and add to that his time away from the game, it is nearly impossible to see these issues being dealt with effectively enough to allow Melo to be a useful NBA player. I'd love it if he somehow pulled this off and got to finish his career on a better note (as I would have with Antoine Walker) but I doubt it and he only has himself to blame for this.