I'm kind of disappointed in Tatum as a scorer

[Somebody]

I would say my biggest concern regarding Tatum's ability to become a high volume scorer is that he doesn't generate a lot of contact.  He is going inside more, which is good, but he is still scores more with grace and agility than strength.

Top scorers tend to buttress their shot-creation prowess with 7-10 free throws attempts a game. 

That's the major difference I see between Tatum and Paul Pierce.  Paul was a master at getting to the line and did so frequently.

Paul was stronger and better at getting to the line, but even taking that out of the equation i felt that he was impossible to stop in one on one situations. When Tatum is in one on one situations, it's hit or miss it seems.

As others have mentioned Pierce has the benefit of 3 years of college to Tatums 1. At Tatums current age Pierce had yet to play a minute of NBA basketball.

That said, the idea that Tatum may not be the scorer Pierce is isn’t exactly distressing. Pierce was an all time great scorer. He’s 15th all time in career scoring. Tom Heinsohn called him the greatest scorer in Celtics history (although we all know Heinsohn is susceptible to hyperbole)

I don’t think Tatum is the scorer Pierce was. I think it’s possible he gets there but unlikely. He can still be a great player without being Paul Pierce

The concerning thing is that Pierce had an All-NBA peak at his best. If Tatum couldn't get to that level then how can he be a centerpiece to a title winning team? An All-Star isn't going to win us titles, you really need a guy who's a top 15 player (or plays like one in the playoffs) to compete for banner 18. We really need him to get into the weight program of Giannis/Porzingis and bulk up to 235-240 pounds if he's going to be our franchise player. Even Durant is around 235 pounds lol, and he has the advantage of being 2-3 inches taller than his contemporaries so he doesn't need to rely on weight as much.

[gouki88]

I would say my biggest concern regarding Tatum's ability to become a high volume scorer is that he doesn't generate a lot of contact.  He is going inside more, which is good, but he is still scores more with grace and agility than strength.

Top scorers tend to buttress their shot-creation prowess with 7-10 free throws attempts a game. 

That's the major difference I see between Tatum and Paul Pierce.  Paul was a master at getting to the line and did so frequently.

Paul was stronger and better at getting to the line, but even taking that out of the equation i felt that he was impossible to stop in one on one situations. When Tatum is in one on one situations, it's hit or miss it seems.

As others have mentioned Pierce has the benefit of 3 years of college to Tatums 1. At Tatums current age Pierce had yet to play a minute of NBA basketball.

That said, the idea that Tatum may not be the scorer Pierce is isn’t exactly distressing. Pierce was an all time great scorer. He’s 15th all time in career scoring. Tom Heinsohn called him the greatest scorer in Celtics history (although we all know Heinsohn is susceptible to hyperbole)

I don’t think Tatum is the scorer Pierce was. I think it’s possible he gets there but unlikely. He can still be a great player without being Paul Pierce

The concerning thing is that Pierce had an All-NBA peak at his best. If Tatum couldn't get to that level then how can he be a centerpiece to a title winning team? An All-Star isn't going to win us titles, you really need a guy who's a top 15 player (or plays like one in the playoffs) to compete for banner 18. We really need him to get into the weight program of Giannis/Porzingis and bulk up to 235-240 pounds if he's going to be our franchise player. Even Durant is around 235 pounds lol, and he has the advantage of being 2-3 inches taller than his contemporaries so he doesn't need to rely on weight as much.

With those guys it took them a while to build on that kind of weight. Tatum might never, but Giannis wasn't an All-Star until year 4, and KP only looks to have just now put on some serious muscle. Gotta give him some time still.

[Fierce1]

Tatum will have a breakout season now that Kyrie and Horford are gone.

Regarding the bulk, I think Tatum will start to get bulkier at age 23.
Right now he's supposed to be in college.

A little over a week to go for the start of the season.

Tatum will prove doubters wrong this season.

[Somebody]

I would say my biggest concern regarding Tatum's ability to become a high volume scorer is that he doesn't generate a lot of contact.  He is going inside more, which is good, but he is still scores more with grace and agility than strength.

Top scorers tend to buttress their shot-creation prowess with 7-10 free throws attempts a game. 

That's the major difference I see between Tatum and Paul Pierce.  Paul was a master at getting to the line and did so frequently.

Paul was stronger and better at getting to the line, but even taking that out of the equation i felt that he was impossible to stop in one on one situations. When Tatum is in one on one situations, it's hit or miss it seems.

As others have mentioned Pierce has the benefit of 3 years of college to Tatums 1. At Tatums current age Pierce had yet to play a minute of NBA basketball.

That said, the idea that Tatum may not be the scorer Pierce is isn’t exactly distressing. Pierce was an all time great scorer. He’s 15th all time in career scoring. Tom Heinsohn called him the greatest scorer in Celtics history (although we all know Heinsohn is susceptible to hyperbole)

I don’t think Tatum is the scorer Pierce was. I think it’s possible he gets there but unlikely. He can still be a great player without being Paul Pierce

The concerning thing is that Pierce had an All-NBA peak at his best. If Tatum couldn't get to that level then how can he be a centerpiece to a title winning team? An All-Star isn't going to win us titles, you really need a guy who's a top 15 player (or plays like one in the playoffs) to compete for banner 18. We really need him to get into the weight program of Giannis/Porzingis and bulk up to 235-240 pounds if he's going to be our franchise player. Even Durant is around 235 pounds lol, and he has the advantage of being 2-3 inches taller than his contemporaries so he doesn't need to rely on weight as much.

With those guys it took them a while to build on that kind of weight. Tatum might never, but Giannis wasn't an All-Star until year 4, and KP only looks to have just now put on some serious muscle. Gotta give him some time still.

Giannis consistently put on muscle year after year, which I'm not confident that Tatum can do (he didn't put on any muscle last offseason, and only put on a bit this year). But yeah I guess I should be more patient and hope that Tatum goes the Porzingis route by adding 16-17 pounds in a random offseason

[Somebody]

Tatum will have a breakout season now that Kyrie and Horford are gone.

Regarding the bulk, I think Tatum will start to get bulkier at age 23.
Right now he's supposed to be in college.

A little over a week to go for the start of the season.

Tatum will prove doubters wrong this season.

I certainly hope so, because rn Brown has shown very positive signs of improvement while your binkie Tatum hasn't made the leap yet judging from the eye test. When will we see "Tatum for Sabonis" trade proposals from you if Tatum stagnates (not that I want Tatum to be traded, I think he has good potential)?

[gouki88]

I would say my biggest concern regarding Tatum's ability to become a high volume scorer is that he doesn't generate a lot of contact.  He is going inside more, which is good, but he is still scores more with grace and agility than strength.

Top scorers tend to buttress their shot-creation prowess with 7-10 free throws attempts a game. 

That's the major difference I see between Tatum and Paul Pierce.  Paul was a master at getting to the line and did so frequently.

Paul was stronger and better at getting to the line, but even taking that out of the equation i felt that he was impossible to stop in one on one situations. When Tatum is in one on one situations, it's hit or miss it seems.

As others have mentioned Pierce has the benefit of 3 years of college to Tatums 1. At Tatums current age Pierce had yet to play a minute of NBA basketball.

That said, the idea that Tatum may not be the scorer Pierce is isn’t exactly distressing. Pierce was an all time great scorer. He’s 15th all time in career scoring. Tom Heinsohn called him the greatest scorer in Celtics history (although we all know Heinsohn is susceptible to hyperbole)

I don’t think Tatum is the scorer Pierce was. I think it’s possible he gets there but unlikely. He can still be a great player without being Paul Pierce

The concerning thing is that Pierce had an All-NBA peak at his best. If Tatum couldn't get to that level then how can he be a centerpiece to a title winning team? An All-Star isn't going to win us titles, you really need a guy who's a top 15 player (or plays like one in the playoffs) to compete for banner 18. We really need him to get into the weight program of Giannis/Porzingis and bulk up to 235-240 pounds if he's going to be our franchise player. Even Durant is around 235 pounds lol, and he has the advantage of being 2-3 inches taller than his contemporaries so he doesn't need to rely on weight as much.

With those guys it took them a while to build on that kind of weight. Tatum might never, but Giannis wasn't an All-Star until year 4, and KP only looks to have just now put on some serious muscle. Gotta give him some time still.

Giannis consistently put on muscle year after year, which I'm not confident that Tatum can do (he didn't put on any muscle last offseason, and only put on a bit this year). But yeah I guess I should be more patient and hope that Tatum goes the Porzingis route by adding 16-17 pounds in a random offseason

Ha, yeah, let's hope so. Or maybe Grant Williams turns into Draymond 2.0, who knows? I have some faith

[gpap]

Tatum will have a breakout season now that Kyrie and Horford are gone.

Regarding the bulk, I think Tatum will start to get bulkier at age 23.
Right now he's supposed to be in college.

A little over a week to go for the start of the season.

Tatum will prove doubters wrong this season.

I certainly hope so, because rn Brown has shown very positive signs of improvement while your binkie Tatum hasn't made the leap yet judging from the eye test. When will we see "Tatum for Sabonis" trade proposals from you if Tatum stagnates (not that I want Tatum to be traded, I think he has good potential)?

Yeah, I'm very much taking a wait and see approach on Tatum and his progress from his regression last season. When is the deadline to extend Jaylen before he hits restricted FA next season? Is it October 31st?

[nickagneta]

Tatum will have a breakout season now that Kyrie and Horford are gone.

Regarding the bulk, I think Tatum will start to get bulkier at age 23.
Right now he's supposed to be in college.

A little over a week to go for the start of the season.

Tatum will prove doubters wrong this season.

I certainly hope so, because rn Brown has shown very positive signs of improvement while your binkie Tatum hasn't made the leap yet judging from the eye test. When will we see "Tatum for Sabonis" trade proposals from you if Tatum stagnates (not that I want Tatum to be traded, I think he has good potential)?

Yeah, I'm very much taking a wait and see approach on Tatum and his progress from his regression last season. When is the deadline to extend Jaylen before he hits restricted FA next season? Is it October 31st?

I thought it was 1st game of the season, but I may be wrong.

[gpap]

Tatum will have a breakout season now that Kyrie and Horford are gone.

Regarding the bulk, I think Tatum will start to get bulkier at age 23.
Right now he's supposed to be in college.

A little over a week to go for the start of the season.

Tatum will prove doubters wrong this season.

I certainly hope so, because rn Brown has shown very positive signs of improvement while your binkie Tatum hasn't made the leap yet judging from the eye test. When will we see "Tatum for Sabonis" trade proposals from you if Tatum stagnates (not that I want Tatum to be traded, I think he has good potential)?

Yeah, I'm very much taking a wait and see approach on Tatum and his progress from his regression last season. When is the deadline to extend Jaylen before he hits restricted FA next season? Is it October 31st?

I thought it was 1st game of the season, but I may be wrong.

You're right. October 21st
https://sports.yahoo.com/nba-executives-thoughts-jaylen-browns-231557748.html

[droopdog7]

My opinion on Tatum is that he’s not a guaranteed star anymore. And he could certainly be the next Carmelo even if he does reach his ceiling.

So an elite scorer and a multi-time All-Star who once lead his team to a Conference Finals: Sounds great!

Who was often accused of making teams worse with his selfish ball.

[td450]

One thing I love about basketball is that there are a million different ways to be effective on the court. I do think it's fair to be a bit concerned that Tatum hasn't improved more. However, each of us has particular ideas on how he should do it. As long as he finds a way, somehow, I don't care how he does it.

If you had asked me, I'd have suggested that he gain 10 lbs, and focus improvement on finishing with his left hand and working on drawing fouls. It appears that his main concern was to focus on reducing mid range shots from his shot selection.

My guess is that if the team improves the pace some, and Tatum does nothing more than take a couple of more shots and matches the kind of shooting efficiency he showed as a rookie, we'll all like the very young 20 ppg scorer we have. Those are some fairly minor adjustments.

[jambr380]

My opinion on Tatum is that he’s not a guaranteed star anymore. And he could certainly be the next Carmelo even if he does reach his ceiling.

So an elite scorer and a multi-time All-Star who once lead his team to a Conference Finals: Sounds great!

Who was often accused of making teams worse with his selfish ball.

I will gladly taking Tatum turning into a surefire Hall of Famer. Carmelo's career trajectory may not have gone the direction he was hoping, but he was an incredibly gifted player. It would have been interesting to see him play anywhere except NYK after he left (demanded a trade from) Denver.

[Somebody]

I would say my biggest concern regarding Tatum's ability to become a high volume scorer is that he doesn't generate a lot of contact.  He is going inside more, which is good, but he is still scores more with grace and agility than strength.

Top scorers tend to buttress their shot-creation prowess with 7-10 free throws attempts a game. 

That's the major difference I see between Tatum and Paul Pierce.  Paul was a master at getting to the line and did so frequently.

Paul was stronger and better at getting to the line, but even taking that out of the equation i felt that he was impossible to stop in one on one situations. When Tatum is in one on one situations, it's hit or miss it seems.

As others have mentioned Pierce has the benefit of 3 years of college to Tatums 1. At Tatums current age Pierce had yet to play a minute of NBA basketball.

That said, the idea that Tatum may not be the scorer Pierce is isn’t exactly distressing. Pierce was an all time great scorer. He’s 15th all time in career scoring. Tom Heinsohn called him the greatest scorer in Celtics history (although we all know Heinsohn is susceptible to hyperbole)

I don’t think Tatum is the scorer Pierce was. I think it’s possible he gets there but unlikely. He can still be a great player without being Paul Pierce

The concerning thing is that Pierce had an All-NBA peak at his best. If Tatum couldn't get to that level then how can he be a centerpiece to a title winning team? An All-Star isn't going to win us titles, you really need a guy who's a top 15 player (or plays like one in the playoffs) to compete for banner 18. We really need him to get into the weight program of Giannis/Porzingis and bulk up to 235-240 pounds if he's going to be our franchise player. Even Durant is around 235 pounds lol, and he has the advantage of being 2-3 inches taller than his contemporaries so he doesn't need to rely on weight as much.

With those guys it took them a while to build on that kind of weight. Tatum might never, but Giannis wasn't an All-Star until year 4, and KP only looks to have just now put on some serious muscle. Gotta give him some time still.

Giannis consistently put on muscle year after year, which I'm not confident that Tatum can do (he didn't put on any muscle last offseason, and only put on a bit this year). But yeah I guess I should be more patient and hope that Tatum goes the Porzingis route by adding 16-17 pounds in a random offseason

Ha, yeah, let's hope so. Or maybe Grant Williams turns into Draymond 2.0, who knows? I have some faith

oh yeah Grant Williams can get into an arm stretching programme

[tonydelk]

He's a good scorer, and he's young and he shows flashes, but i thought he would be better offensively by now. He's still missing point blank layups (like the one last night) and the game just doesn't look that easy for him right now. Maybe he's overthinking out there i'm not sure, but i honestly thought he'd be a more dynamic scorer at this point in time.

I could not disagree more.  Tatum has looked outstanding this preseason.  The problem with some of his misses is that he's getting fouled and he's not getting all of the calls.  I hate the refs and the star treatment.  Tatum is not a national name brand yet so he doesn't get the calls that he should. 

On Tatum's scoring.  If he plays the regular season like he has in the preseason he's going to average over 20 a game with great efficiency.  He's been relentless in attacking the rim and taking 3's.  The 2's he's taken have all been in the paint area for the most part.  Just good shots.  I'm excited for Tatum and Brown this year.

[tonydelk]

I would say my biggest concern regarding Tatum's ability to become a high volume scorer is that he doesn't generate a lot of contact.  He is going inside more, which is good, but he is still scores more with grace and agility than strength.

Top scorers tend to buttress their shot-creation prowess with 7-10 free throws attempts a game. 

That's the major difference I see between Tatum and Paul Pierce.  Paul was a master at getting to the line and did so frequently.

Paul was stronger and better at getting to the line, but even taking that out of the equation i felt that he was impossible to stop in one on one situations. When Tatum is in one on one situations, it's hit or miss it seems.

As others have mentioned Pierce has the benefit of 3 years of college to Tatums 1. At Tatums current age Pierce had yet to play a minute of NBA basketball.

That said, the idea that Tatum may not be the scorer Pierce is isn’t exactly distressing. Pierce was an all time great scorer. He’s 15th all time in career scoring. Tom Heinsohn called him the greatest scorer in Celtics history (although we all know Heinsohn is susceptible to hyperbole)

I don’t think Tatum is the scorer Pierce was. I think it’s possible he gets there but unlikely. He can still be a great player without being Paul Pierce

The concerning thing is that Pierce had an All-NBA peak at his best. If Tatum couldn't get to that level then how can he be a centerpiece to a title winning team? An All-Star isn't going to win us titles, you really need a guy who's a top 15 player (or plays like one in the playoffs) to compete for banner 18. We really need him to get into the weight program of Giannis/Porzingis and bulk up to 235-240 pounds if he's going to be our franchise player. Even Durant is around 235 pounds lol, and he has the advantage of being 2-3 inches taller than his contemporaries so he doesn't need to rely on weight as much.

Also keep in mind that Pierce was great at exaggerating the contact.  Tatum has not learned that yet.  The refs tend to call more fouls when the player kinds of flops and yells drawing attention to the foul.  Pierce was a master of this.