Would Tatum be open to Sixth man of the year

[dannyboy35]

barring any surprises/injuries, the starting line-up this season will be Walker/ Brown/ Hayward/ Tatum/ Kanter.  Smart will be the 6th man.  Everyone else will be fighting for minutes

  It should be but watch smart start.

[dannyboy35]

No way could Tatum's ego handle coming off the bench.

He is the Second Coming ...

 Yup. Too big an ego. He’s thinking about  20 ppg

[gouki88]

My starters are still

Walker
Brown
Tatum
Semi (at 15-20 minutes a game as long as he hits his corner threes at league average)
Kanter


Smart and Hayward comes off the bench at 30 minutes a game range.

There is no way Semi starts. In fact, I don't even see him as part of the rotation. He's a defensive specialist off the bench who will get his minutes in blow outs, when someone is in foul trouble, or for specific match ups where they need to throw lots of defenders at a guy (e.g. Giannis). The only way he gets real rotation minutes is if someone gets hurt.

I think you're in for a surprise

[nickagneta]

barring any surprises/injuries, the starting line-up this season will be Walker/ Brown/ Hayward/ Tatum/ Kanter.  Smart will be the 6th man.  Everyone else will be fighting for minutes

  It should be but watch smart start.

Nope. Smart will be needed as the primary or secondary ball handler when Kemba is sitting. The bench squad will need a ball handler experienced in Stevens' system. Smart returns to his 6th man role this year.

[Mike Pemulis]

Smart will win 6th man of the year. Tatum will take Kawhi's allstar spot. I hope.

[Rosco917]

My starting 5 would be:

Walker
Smart
Kanter
Tatum
Hayward

Brown, and not Tatum, leads that second unit giving him free range to further develop his offensive game. He did well in that spot last year.

Tatum has the potential to grow into in a monster. Jayson needs maturity and more time. He needs to develop that 6-9" 205 pound frame into a 225 pound man. With that maturity his motor should will also expand. We should see a solid glimpse of the monster this year.

Brown coming off the bench really didn't help him out a lot last season, it was heavy minutes that allowed him to settle into the game. I'd much rather Hayward come off the bench if we have to stagger one of our three wings due to how weak our bench unit is, he provides the necessary playmaking to keep the bench offense afloat to prevent us from bleeding massive value whenever our second unit plays. I agree with Tatum having the potential to develop into a superstar, and I also believe that he needs a bit more time, but him being a "monster" at 225 pounds? Monsters like LeBron and Giannis weigh like 250-270 pounds, Tatum needs to reach the 240 pound range (give or take 5 pounds) to be the guy we envision him to be.

Tatum will never weight 240... maybe til he's 60.

Facilitating is what builds chemistry. Score first, reluctant passers like Brown and Tatum and Walker build confusion. A little like last years disaster.

[Somebody]

My starting 5 would be:

Walker
Smart
Kanter
Tatum
Hayward

Brown, and not Tatum, leads that second unit giving him free range to further develop his offensive game. He did well in that spot last year.

Tatum has the potential to grow into in a monster. Jayson needs maturity and more time. He needs to develop that 6-9" 205 pound frame into a 225 pound man. With that maturity his motor should will also expand. We should see a solid glimpse of the monster this year.

Brown coming off the bench really didn't help him out a lot last season, it was heavy minutes that allowed him to settle into the game. I'd much rather Hayward come off the bench if we have to stagger one of our three wings due to how weak our bench unit is, he provides the necessary playmaking to keep the bench offense afloat to prevent us from bleeding massive value whenever our second unit plays. I agree with Tatum having the potential to develop into a superstar, and I also believe that he needs a bit more time, but him being a "monster" at 225 pounds? Monsters like LeBron and Giannis weigh like 250-270 pounds, Tatum needs to reach the 240 pound range (give or take 5 pounds) to be the guy we envision him to be.

Tatum will never weight 240... maybe til he's 60.

Facilitating is what builds chemistry. Score first, reluctant passers like Brown and Tatum and Walker build confusion. A little like last years disaster.

I don't see him ever becoming "a monster" then. Even guys like PG and Kawhi weigh in the 230s, and they're both longer than Tatum (Kawhi also has insane strength for his size and weight). You're not becoming "a monster" when you routinely give up 8-10 pounds of weight and an inch or two of length against the premier wings of the league, and that's not even counting transcendent talents like LeBron and Giannis who're in the 250-270 range (Bron's weight fluctuates from season to season, but even his lightest seasons have him at around 240). If Tatum wants to be the best he has to bulk up and get close to 240, he's not an exception like KD (who btw is in the 230s as well lol).

[nickagneta]

My starting 5 would be:

Walker
Smart
Kanter
Tatum
Hayward

Brown, and not Tatum, leads that second unit giving him free range to further develop his offensive game. He did well in that spot last year.

Tatum has the potential to grow into in a monster. Jayson needs maturity and more time. He needs to develop that 6-9" 205 pound frame into a 225 pound man. With that maturity his motor should will also expand. We should see a solid glimpse of the monster this year.

Brown coming off the bench really didn't help him out a lot last season, it was heavy minutes that allowed him to settle into the game. I'd much rather Hayward come off the bench if we have to stagger one of our three wings due to how weak our bench unit is, he provides the necessary playmaking to keep the bench offense afloat to prevent us from bleeding massive value whenever our second unit plays. I agree with Tatum having the potential to develop into a superstar, and I also believe that he needs a bit more time, but him being a "monster" at 225 pounds? Monsters like LeBron and Giannis weigh like 250-270 pounds, Tatum needs to reach the 240 pound range (give or take 5 pounds) to be the guy we envision him to be.

Tatum will never weight 240... maybe til he's 60.

Facilitating is what builds chemistry. Score first, reluctant passers like Brown and Tatum and Walker build confusion. A little like last years disaster.

I don't see him ever becoming "a monster" then. Even guys like PG and Kawhi weigh in the 230s, and they're both longer than Tatum (Kawhi also has insane strength for his size and weight). You're not becoming "a monster" when you routinely give up 8-10 pounds of weight and an inch or two of length against the premier wings of the league, and that's not even counting transcendent talents like LeBron and Giannis who're in the 250-270 range (Bron's weight fluctuates from season to season, but even his lightest seasons have him at around 240). If Tatum wants to be the best he has to bulk up and get close to 240, he's not an exception like KD (who btw is in the 230s as well lol).

If only we could put Tatum's offensive abilities and Smart's hustle and defensive abilities into Jaylen's ridiculous athletic body. We might have an MJ in green in a year or two.

[Somebody]

My starting 5 would be:

Walker
Smart
Kanter
Tatum
Hayward

Brown, and not Tatum, leads that second unit giving him free range to further develop his offensive game. He did well in that spot last year.

Tatum has the potential to grow into in a monster. Jayson needs maturity and more time. He needs to develop that 6-9" 205 pound frame into a 225 pound man. With that maturity his motor should will also expand. We should see a solid glimpse of the monster this year.

Brown coming off the bench really didn't help him out a lot last season, it was heavy minutes that allowed him to settle into the game. I'd much rather Hayward come off the bench if we have to stagger one of our three wings due to how weak our bench unit is, he provides the necessary playmaking to keep the bench offense afloat to prevent us from bleeding massive value whenever our second unit plays. I agree with Tatum having the potential to develop into a superstar, and I also believe that he needs a bit more time, but him being a "monster" at 225 pounds? Monsters like LeBron and Giannis weigh like 250-270 pounds, Tatum needs to reach the 240 pound range (give or take 5 pounds) to be the guy we envision him to be.

Tatum will never weight 240... maybe til he's 60.

Facilitating is what builds chemistry. Score first, reluctant passers like Brown and Tatum and Walker build confusion. A little like last years disaster.

I don't see him ever becoming "a monster" then. Even guys like PG and Kawhi weigh in the 230s, and they're both longer than Tatum (Kawhi also has insane strength for his size and weight). You're not becoming "a monster" when you routinely give up 8-10 pounds of weight and an inch or two of length against the premier wings of the league, and that's not even counting transcendent talents like LeBron and Giannis who're in the 250-270 range (Bron's weight fluctuates from season to season, but even his lightest seasons have him at around 240). If Tatum wants to be the best he has to bulk up and get close to 240, he's not an exception like KD (who btw is in the 230s as well lol).

If only we could put Tatum's offensive abilities and Smart's hustle and defensive abilities into Jaylen's ridiculous athletic body. We might have an MJ in green in a year or two.

Ikr, and add in the hands of of Robert Williams to have that imaginary player palming the ball in ridiculous ways lol.

[bellerephon]

My starters are still

Walker
Brown
Tatum
Semi (at 15-20 minutes a game as long as he hits his corner threes at league average)
Kanter


Smart and Hayward comes off the bench at 30 minutes a game range.

There is no way Semi starts. In fact, I don't even see him as part of the rotation. He's a defensive specialist off the bench who will get his minutes in blow outs, when someone is in foul trouble, or for specific match ups where they need to throw lots of defenders at a guy (e.g. Giannis). The only way he gets real rotation minutes is if someone gets hurt.

I think you're in for a surprise

Possibly, I certainly have no special knowledge of what Brad is planning. Semi simply does not look to me like a rotation player. He plays good defense and is very strong, but his offense is still not very good. He may pick up some minutes as a small ball five, but I don't expect much more. He's simply not good enough to deserve more.

[dannyboy35]

My starting 5 would be:

Walker
Smart
Kanter
Tatum
Hayward

Brown, and not Tatum, leads that second unit giving him free range to further develop his offensive game. He did well in that spot last year.

Tatum has the potential to grow into in a monster. Jayson needs maturity and more time. He needs to develop that 6-9" 205 pound frame into a 225 pound man. With that maturity his motor should will also expand. We should see a solid glimpse of the monster this year.

Brown coming off the bench really didn't help him out a lot last season, it was heavy minutes that allowed him to settle into the game. I'd much rather Hayward come off the bench if we have to stagger one of our three wings due to how weak our bench unit is, he provides the necessary playmaking to keep the bench offense afloat to prevent us from bleeding massive value whenever our second unit plays. I agree with Tatum having the potential to develop into a superstar, and I also believe that he needs a bit more time, but him being a "monster" at 225 pounds? Monsters like LeBron and Giannis weigh like 250-270 pounds, Tatum needs to reach the 240 pound range (give or take 5 pounds) to be the guy we envision him to be.

Tatum will never weight 240... maybe til he's 60.

Facilitating is what builds chemistry. Score first, reluctant passers like Brown and Tatum and Walker build confusion. A little like last years disaster.

   Agreed. This is why I think Hayward will be the best player in the team if Stevens defines roles this time around.

[wdleehi]

My starters are still

Walker
Brown
Tatum
Semi (at 15-20 minutes a game as long as he hits his corner threes at league average)
Kanter


Smart and Hayward comes off the bench at 30 minutes a game range.

There is no way Semi starts. In fact, I don't even see him as part of the rotation. He's a defensive specialist off the bench who will get his minutes in blow outs, when someone is in foul trouble, or for specific match ups where they need to throw lots of defenders at a guy (e.g. Giannis). The only way he gets real rotation minutes is if someone gets hurt.

I think you're in for a surprise

Possibly, I certainly have no special knowledge of what Brad is planning. Semi simply does not look to me like a rotation player. He plays good defense and is very strong, but his offense is still not very good. He may pick up some minutes as a small ball five, but I don't expect much more. He's simply not good enough to deserve more.

That's the point.   They don't need him to be a big offensive player out there.   Just be able to hit the open three at a league average rate and make the simple passes.   If he does, I could see him carving out that 15-20 minutes job.

[Moranis]

I still think against most teams the starting lineup will be Walker, Brown, Hayward, Tatum, Kanter.  Those are the 5 best players on the team (well Smart may be better than Kanter, but he isn't starting over him) and they should start the 5 best players on most nights.  There are probably teams where you need a bigger guy out there initially so as to not wear Tatum down as much, but there aren't that many of them. 

[Hoopvortex]

I still think against most teams the starting lineup will be Walker, Brown, Hayward, Tatum, Kanter.  Those are the 5 best players on the team (well Smart may be better than Kanter, but he isn't starting over him) and they should start the 5 best players on most nights.  There are probably teams where you need a bigger guy out there initially so as to not wear Tatum down as much, but there aren't that many of them.

Brad Stevens’ pattern, historically, has been to experiment for a couple of months with a starting lineup, then settle on something and stick with it, if he can.

[bellerephon]

My starters are still

Walker
Brown
Tatum
Semi (at 15-20 minutes a game as long as he hits his corner threes at league average)
Kanter


Smart and Hayward comes off the bench at 30 minutes a game range.

There is no way Semi starts. In fact, I don't even see him as part of the rotation. He's a defensive specialist off the bench who will get his minutes in blow outs, when someone is in foul trouble, or for specific match ups where they need to throw lots of defenders at a guy (e.g. Giannis). The only way he gets real rotation minutes is if someone gets hurt.

I think you're in for a surprise

Possibly, I certainly have no special knowledge of what Brad is planning. Semi simply does not look to me like a rotation player. He plays good defense and is very strong, but his offense is still not very good. He may pick up some minutes as a small ball five, but I don't expect much more. He's simply not good enough to deserve more.

That's the point.   They don't need him to be a big offensive player out there.   Just be able to hit the open three at a league average rate and make the simple passes.   If he does, I could see him carving out that 15-20 minutes job.

That's just the point, so far he has not been able to do those things well enough. I see no reason to think he will do so this season. Of course players can grow and improve, so maybe he will get better. I don't expect it.