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Re: Patriots 2019 Season
« Reply #450 on: December 29, 2019, 10:50:27 PM »

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Honestly if they kept this team more or less intact, added some better receiving at tight end, got the offensive line healthy, and replaced Brady with an average passer who can make some plays with his legs, I think they'd be better. Maybe significantly better.


Brady isnt the core of the team anymore. Maybe it'll.be for the best if both sides move on.
Do you think a QB as you describe would be gotten through draft or FA/trade?

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Re: Patriots 2019 Season
« Reply #451 on: December 29, 2019, 10:58:09 PM »

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I’m not a Pats fan, so I don’t follow all of their transactions. Why did they trade Jacoby Brisset?


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Re: Patriots 2019 Season
« Reply #452 on: December 29, 2019, 11:00:31 PM »

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I think Tua will come out this year and he could drop due to uncertainty with his hip and maybe needing to miss a good part of the next season. But if he falls to NE, that might be where we replace Brady long term.

Bringing in even a half way decent QB to bridge the gap is still going to cost $15-25 million a year over 3 years with like $35 million guaranteed. A trade for that type player will cost draft capital and that player probably is on an expensive contract. Looking at it that way, maybe it makes sense to draft Tua and give Brady 3 years $75 million and let Tua learn from the master.

All I know is there are going to be some tough decisions to make and I am glad I won't be the one making them.

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« Reply #453 on: December 29, 2019, 11:21:51 PM »

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I think Tua will come out this year and he could drop due to uncertainty with his hip and maybe needing to miss a good part of the next season. But if he falls to NE, that might be where we replace Brady long term.

Bringing in even a half way decent QB to bridge the gap is still going to cost $15-25 million a year over 3 years with like $35 million guaranteed. A trade for that type player will cost draft capital and that player probably is on an expensive contract. Looking at it that way, maybe it makes sense to draft Tua and give Brady 3 years $75 million and let Tua learn from the master.

All I know is there are going to be some tough decisions to make and I am glad I won't be the one making them.
Don't the Patriots really like Stidham? I don't know if they're gonna draft another QB development project. I know this is the boring choice, but I think we draft players to help that dreadful O-line.
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« Reply #454 on: December 29, 2019, 11:55:38 PM »

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I’m not a Pats fan, so I don’t follow all of their transactions. Why did they trade Jacoby Brisset?

We still had Garoppolo at the time as a backup, and we needed a WR. So we traded him for Dorsett. I was a bit surprised we traded him when we did, but also the Pats rarely carry 3 QBs in their roster. The year they did was when Brady was suspended the first four games.

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« Reply #455 on: December 29, 2019, 11:56:22 PM »

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Re: Patriots 2019 Season
« Reply #456 on: December 30, 2019, 12:14:52 AM »

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« Reply #457 on: December 30, 2019, 12:35:49 AM »

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I’m not a Pats fan, so I don’t follow all of their transactions. Why did they trade Jacoby Brisset?

We still had Garoppolo at the time as a backup, and we needed a WR. So we traded him for Dorsett. I was a bit surprised we traded him when we did, but also the Pats rarely carry 3 QBs in their roster. The year they did was when Brady was suspended the first four games.

I guess it’s the timing that didn’t make sense to me. The two trades were a month or so apart. If they were going to trade Jimmy G, I’m surprised they dealt Brissett.

I guess a lot can happen in 4 or 5 weeks, and the situation changed drastically with Garapalo.


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Re: Patriots 2019 Season
« Reply #458 on: December 30, 2019, 01:18:03 AM »

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Is Fitzpatrick a free agent?  Because he'd be a nice stopgap option until the next guy is drafted / developed.
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« Reply #459 on: December 30, 2019, 01:19:02 AM »

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I’m not a Pats fan, so I don’t follow all of their transactions. Why did they trade Jacoby Brisset?

We still had Garoppolo at the time as a backup, and we needed a WR. So we traded him for Dorsett. I was a bit surprised we traded him when we did, but also the Pats rarely carry 3 QBs in their roster. The year they did was when Brady was suspended the first four games.

I guess it’s the timing that didn’t make sense to me. The two trades were a month or so apart. If they were going to trade Jimmy G, I’m surprised they dealt Brissett.

I guess a lot can happen in 4 or 5 weeks, and the situation changed drastically with Garapalo.

I can't say this with 100% certainty, but I think there was a timing issue—I think Belichick traded Brissett thinking that Jimmy would be sticking around, but then (IMO) Kraft ordered Belichick to forget about any notions of Jimmy supplanting Brady and to instead trade Jimmy while they could still get something for him (which, of course, wasn't as much as what they could've gotten earlier). If that's NOT how it went, then Belichick made a big mistake in trading Brissett.
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Re: Patriots 2019 Season
« Reply #460 on: December 30, 2019, 01:25:25 AM »

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Is Fitzpatrick a free agent?  Because he'd be a nice stopgap option until the next guy is drafted / developed.

He has one more year ($5.5M, but only $1.5M guaranteed not including incentives) on his deal. But I think they can just release him if they want.
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Re: Patriots 2019 Season
« Reply #461 on: December 30, 2019, 06:22:56 AM »

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I think Tua will come out this year and he could drop due to uncertainty with his hip and maybe needing to miss a good part of the next season. But if he falls to NE, that might be where we replace Brady long term.

Bringing in even a half way decent QB to bridge the gap is still going to cost $15-25 million a year over 3 years with like $35 million guaranteed. A trade for that type player will cost draft capital and that player probably is on an expensive contract. Looking at it that way, maybe it makes sense to draft Tua and give Brady 3 years $75 million and let Tua learn from the master.

All I know is there are going to be some tough decisions to make and I am glad I won't be the one making them.
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Re: Patriots 2019 Season
« Reply #462 on: December 30, 2019, 08:53:15 AM »

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I am all for extracting value out of players and/or starting a new era when it is time, but Brady plays as long as he wants in a Patriots uniform...period. Some of the comments here are blasphemous. If we need to endure a couple of mediocre seasons before Brady finally calls it quits, then we'll survive. It's not like we have this incredible influx of young talent that is just bursting at the seams and it's all Brady's fault.

When you have a 42 year old qb, you don't give him a shaky offensive line and questionable receivers. We lost all of our big threats a couple of games into the season. I am perfectly willing to re-group and try again next year. If the organization isn't satisfied with Stidham, then draft another qb, but Brady shouldn't be going anywhere.

Re: Patriots 2019 Season
« Reply #463 on: December 30, 2019, 09:11:08 AM »

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not a Pats post but didn't want to start a new thread just to say those stupid Redskins go on a mini 2-game winning streak several weeks ago where if they'd just lost the games as they were predicted to, they'd be sitting on the #1 pick right now thanks to the Bengals ending the season with a couple of wins.  They still get the #2 pick (which Snyder will figure out how to screw up) but it's so aggravating to see something that valuable fumbled away.

Re: Patriots 2019 Season
« Reply #464 on: December 30, 2019, 09:15:36 AM »

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I Don't know much about American football as I am european. I could speak easyier about the trade of the so charming and humble Zlatan I to Milan AC but people didn't have the same bad feeling before last year playoffs? Maybe there is a stregnht and a Lucky star in this team that isn't done… At least with Brady !