Enough with the Trade Ideas

[tenn_smoothie]

 I am so tired of the suggestions constantly posted to trade our talented young players. Really liked the comment by one NBA writer this summer after it was clear Anthony Davis was not coming to Boston - the guy said that it is time Boston settled in to find out who they are instead of constantly projecting trade/free agent possibilities to become some future dream.

Remember, Antetokounmpo did not start putting up superstar type numbers until his 4th season.

Our two young J's are starting their 3d and 4th seasons, respectively and Hayward is still recovering from his injury and may even be one more year away from returning to his prime form (see Paul George). Walker is locked in and now we need to develop Rob Williams and add a couple of more pieces. It was Red Auerbach who said that one year is not a very long time to wait to develop a contender. We have a very good young core that have been acquired as part of the rebuild after the Garnett team moved on. Be patient and hope Danny does the same and allows this group to grow up together and remain Celtics. We may well have a few titles to enjoy during their careers.

[Fierce1]

Our two young Js are not bigs.

Giannis is considered a big man.

Wing players like the two Js usually show star potential in their first 3 seasons in the league.

Red Auerbach's ways are a thing of the past.

In today's NBA, you can become an instant contender with just one move.
Toronto did it last season.

Auerbach didn't have to deal with the current salary cap rules.

Things move a lot faster in today's NBA.

[LilRip]

Also, Giannis had no competition and had all the room to grow in Milwaukee.

Remember the time when Philly had Embiid, Noel, and Okafor? Similar situation. Granted, Embiid really took off and separated himself and the other 2 kind of...busted out of this league.

But you can draw similarities in that we have 3 guys with star potential who play similar positions. The wing is more flexible than the 5 so we could probably get away with having 2 of them play like stars. But that seems to leave one out as a “role player who gets minutes”.

[Fierce1]

Also, Giannis had no competition and had all the room to grow in Milwaukee.

Remember the time when Philly had Embiid, Noel, and Okafor? Similar situation. Granted, Embiid really took off and separated himself and the other 2 kind of...busted out of this league.

But you can draw similarities in that we have 3 guys with star potential who play similar positions. The wing is more flexible than the 5 so we could probably get away with having 2 of them play like stars. But that seems to leave one out as a “role player who gets minutes”.

Don't forget to include Hayward.

Tatum, Brown, and Hayward are all wing players.

Add Smart to that mix, who will play some SG, the result will be not enough minutes and shots for all 3 wing players.

[tenn_smoothie]

 Giannis plays exactly like a wing - he does not post up and play back-to-the-basket. Given, the guy's perimeter shot is a weakness right now, but he plays with the ball facing the basket and then drives instead of shooting. Our three wings all have solid perimeter jumpers. And our two J's have shown star potential in their first few years.

Yeah, the NBA is different these days, but the biggest winners of the past 20 years, Spurs & Warriors built their teams slowly through the draft, a couple of key trades and development. The teams that became instant champions often flamed out after a single title.

[LilRip]

Also, Giannis had no competition and had all the room to grow in Milwaukee.

Remember the time when Philly had Embiid, Noel, and Okafor? Similar situation. Granted, Embiid really took off and separated himself and the other 2 kind of...busted out of this league.

But you can draw similarities in that we have 3 guys with star potential who play similar positions. The wing is more flexible than the 5 so we could probably get away with having 2 of them play like stars. But that seems to leave one out as a “role player who gets minutes”.

Don't forget to include Hayward.

Tatum, Brown, and Hayward are all wing players.

Add Smart to that mix, who will play some SG, the result will be not enough minutes and shots for all 3 wing players.

Yup! Agreed. I meant we have 3 players in Brown/Tatum/Hayward but that it’s likely we only have space for 2 out of those 3 to play like stars (ex. Tatum and Hayward).

The 3rd guy (ex. Brown) will have to settle for being a “role player” or to use Shaq’s term, an “other”.

[LilRip]

Giannis plays exactly like a wing - he does not post up and play back-to-the-basket. Given, the guy's perimeter shot is a weakness right now, but he plays with the ball facing the basket and then drives instead of shooting. Our three wings all have solid perimeter jumpers. And our two J's have shown star potential in their first few years.

Yeah, the NBA is different these days, but the biggest winners of the past 20 years, Spurs & Warriors built their teams slowly through the draft, a couple of key trades and development. The teams that became instant champions often flamed out after a single title.

To be fair, how many guys still post up and play back to the basket? You could argue that we had no bigs last year.

Also, I’m convinced that there are multiple ways to build a contender. So why do we see so many winners having their own draft picks? I assume it’s because when you draft a transcendent player like Tim Duncan, you build around him properly and you’ll get great results.

Look at the Miami Heat though. I think Lebron (free agent) was their most important player. To use your example with GSW, I think KD (free agent) was the most important player in their dynasty.

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Thank u geez

[Birdman]

What u see is what u going to get for the upcoming season..Ainge is done trading..he was going to offer everything to New Orleans for Davis until Davis said he would not resign with us..

[Fierce1]

What u see is what u going to get for the upcoming season..Ainge is done trading..he was going to offer everything to New Orleans for Davis until Davis said he would not resign with us..

According to Bulpett of the Herald, Celts are not done dealing because the Celts don't believe they're an elite team right now.

I think the reason why they overpaid Theis is so he can be used as trade filler in December, January, or February.

[Somebody]

What u see is what u going to get for the upcoming season..Ainge is done trading..he was going to offer everything to New Orleans for Davis until Davis said he would not resign with us..

According to Bulpett of the Herald, Celts are not done dealing because the Celts don't believe they're an elite team right now.

I think the reason why they overpaid Theis is so he can be used as trade filler in December, January, or February.

I sure hope they get a solid big man before the trade deadline, and hopefully they keep both Jays.

[Fierce1]

What u see is what u going to get for the upcoming season..Ainge is done trading..he was going to offer everything to New Orleans for Davis until Davis said he would not resign with us..

According to Bulpett of the Herald, Celts are not done dealing because the Celts don't believe they're an elite team right now.

I think the reason why they overpaid Theis is so he can be used as trade filler in December, January, or February.

I sure hope they get a solid big man before the trade deadline, and hopefully they keep both Jays.

Keeping both Js will be hard if the Celts are going to get a quality big man.

Brown has to be the one sacrificed because Tatum's better.

[JBcat]

What u see is what u going to get for the upcoming season..Ainge is done trading..he was going to offer everything to New Orleans for Davis until Davis said he would not resign with us..

According to Bulpett of the Herald, Celts are not done dealing because the Celts don't believe they're an elite team right now.

I think the reason why they overpaid Theis is so he can be used as trade filler in December, January, or February.

Even if true I agree with the sentiment we don’t need to make a big trade this summer.  Most of our players values are suppressed after the season we just had.  I want to see how things play out, and at the very earliest December contemplate making a big trade. By no means does this have to be our final product for the season as we have plenty of time later on to make changes if need be.

[Fierce1]

What u see is what u going to get for the upcoming season..Ainge is done trading..he was going to offer everything to New Orleans for Davis until Davis said he would not resign with us..

According to Bulpett of the Herald, Celts are not done dealing because the Celts don't believe they're an elite team right now.

I think the reason why they overpaid Theis is so he can be used as trade filler in December, January, or February.

Even if true I agree with the sentiment we don’t need to make a big trade this summer.  Most of our players values are suppressed after the season we just had.  I want to see how things play out, and at the very earliest December contemplate making a big trade. By no means does this have to be our final product for the season as we have plenty of time later on to make changes if need be.

Agree.

I think the Celts waiving Yabu means the Celts will be waiting for December or the trade deadline to make a move.

[gpap]

I am so tired of the suggestions constantly posted to trade our talented young players. Really liked the comment by one NBA writer this summer after it was clear Anthony Davis was not coming to Boston - the guy said that it is time Boston settled in to find out who they are instead of constantly projecting trade/free agent possibilities to become some future dream.

Remember, Antetokounmpo did not start putting up superstar type numbers until his 4th season.

Our two young J's are starting their 3d and 4th seasons, respectively and Hayward is still recovering from his injury and may even be one more year away from returning to his prime form (see Paul George). Walker is locked in and now we need to develop Rob Williams and add a couple of more pieces. It was Red Auerbach who said that one year is not a very long time to wait to develop a contender. We have a very good young core that have been acquired as part of the rebuild after the Garnett team moved on. Be patient and hope Danny does the same and allows this group to grow up together and remain Celtics. We may well have a few titles to enjoy during their careers.

Pretty sure people are able to post trade ideas anytime they wish. If you don't agree with them, don't read them.

Look at our roster, man.  It's totally unbalanced. A million guards and small forwards, no power forward, a ton of rookies and only one center with more than a 1 year of NBA experience. Not saying we are not going to be a good team, but clearly another move needs to be made. Will it be made before the season? Probably not.