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Some Potential Talent to Obtain If We Need to Move Brown?
« on: July 26, 2019, 10:39:56 PM »

Offline GreenlyGreeny

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Trying to figure out some other potential trades to move Brown while still adding a lot of value for the next 2-3 years (2 of the 4 would be much cheaper in 2020-2022 than Brown). And one ultimate fantasy proposal at the end that has a probability of greater than zero, but not by much haha just want your take on that, too.

What do you guys think of these potential trades:

Jaren Jackson, Jr.:

http://tradenba.com/trades/ByTJKEtzB

Perhaps Morant does not like playing with Jackson, so a straight-up trade. Weve possibly got our PF of the future whos got 3 years on his rookie contract, is only 20 in September, and has a ton of potential. In fact, I suspect we might need to throw in the Milwaukee and/or Boston pick to get it done.

Nurkic:

http://tradenba.com/trades/rJdNZ4YGS

Solidifies our center position with a guy whos 24 and averaged a double-double on a great team. That said, he had a tough injury. He would be slow making it back to 100%, but he has prior experience working with Kanter so they can split time this year while Nurkic gets better.

Siakam:

http://tradenba.com/trades/BJxum4Fzr

Hot commodity right now, so he would cost us a lot of picks on top of Brown. If he demanded a trade, this could possibly happen. That said, we would be set at PF for years to come considering hes only 25, and hes proven he can be the number two guy on a championship squad. Kemba and Pascal would be a deadly pick-and-roll, particularly if Tatum develops into a Durant-esque caliber player like we hope.

Extremely unlikely but seemed to be the case with Kyrie in 2017: Superstar demands out at the deadline...

http://tradenba.com/trades/BJaLD4tGB

You never know what is happening behind the scenes. If the Bucks faltered (like we did in 2018-2019 after being favorites) with Bogdon gone and Giannis demanded a trade (like Kyrie wanted a change), would you execute this trade if Giannis agreed to a max extension on top of his contract set to expire in 2021? Reasoning: He wants to be the chief rival of the LA monsters that are Kawhi and LeBron, so where do you go to beat LA? Boston. Its great for the NBA. Yes, its a monster-haul but this would be incredibly unique to land a top 5 talent who, combined with Kemba, Smart, and Hayward, would probably make us instant favorites to face the Clippers/Lakers each of the next four years. Oh, and hes only 25 in December.


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Re: Some Potential Talent to Obtain If We Need to Move Brown?
« Reply #1 on: July 26, 2019, 10:56:15 PM »

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My advice: Cool it with the trade proposals, until we see how the current group gels.

Just sayin.

Re: Some Potential Talent to Obtain If We Need to Move Brown?
« Reply #2 on: July 26, 2019, 11:26:02 PM »

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I think the answer to the OP's question in the title is: why would we need to move Brown?  I don't get this obsession with trading him.

Re: Some Potential Talent to Obtain If We Need to Move Brown?
« Reply #3 on: July 26, 2019, 11:27:40 PM »

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I don't think any of these trades are likely. JJJ is close to untouchable, Nurkic is too much an unknown with his injury and Siakam is similar to JJJ.

Giannis trades seem pointless to me at the moment
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Re: Some Potential Talent to Obtain If We Need to Move Brown?
« Reply #4 on: July 27, 2019, 06:22:21 AM »

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I don't think any of these trades are likely. JJJ is close to untouchable, Nurkic is too much an unknown with his injury and Siakam is similar to JJJ.

Giannis trades seem pointless to me at the moment

Agree.

A package involving Brown for Bradley Beal is more realistic.

Re: Some Potential Talent to Obtain If We Need to Move Brown?
« Reply #5 on: July 27, 2019, 06:30:22 AM »

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Jaylen Brown is the guy I most want to keep because out of our scorers (Tatum, Hayward, Kemba) Jaylen is the one who needs the ball the least on offense & because he is a terrific defensive talent.

Out of our top players, I believe Jaylen is the one who best fits next to other star players because he can impact the game well off the ball. To me he is the biggest keeper on the team.

Re: Some Potential Talent to Obtain If We Need to Move Brown?
« Reply #6 on: July 27, 2019, 06:41:04 AM »

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Jaylen Brown is the guy I most want to keep because out of our scorers (Tatum, Hayward, Kemba) Jaylen is the one who needs the ball the least on offense & because he is a terrific defensive talent.

Out of our top players, I believe Jaylen is the one who best fits next to other star players because he can impact the game well off the ball. To me he is the biggest keeper on the team.

I don't think Tatum and Hayward are legit scorers at this point in time.

Hayward was a scorer in Utah.
But until he regains his all-star form, he can't be considered a scorer just yet.

Tatum has yet to average 20 points per game.
Until that happens, Tatum can't be considered a scorer.

Right now only Kemba is a legit scorer on the Celts.

Unless something drastic happens this summer, Jaylen will have a chance to prove he's worth keeping.

Remember, Jamal Murray and Ben Simmons got 34m per year.

How much is Jaylen worth?

That's one of the questions about Jaylen that will be answered in the 2019-20 season.

Re: Some Potential Talent to Obtain If We Need to Move Brown?
« Reply #7 on: July 27, 2019, 07:13:38 AM »

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Jaylen Brown is the guy I most want to keep because out of our scorers (Tatum, Hayward, Kemba) Jaylen is the one who needs the ball the least on offense & because he is a terrific defensive talent.

Out of our top players, I believe Jaylen is the one who best fits next to other star players because he can impact the game well off the ball. To me he is the biggest keeper on the team.

I don't think Tatum and Hayward are legit scorers at this point in time.

Hayward was a scorer in Utah.
But until he regains his all-star form, he can't be considered a scorer just yet.

Tatum has yet to average 20 points per game.
Until that happens, Tatum can't be considered a scorer.

Right now only Kemba is a legit scorer on the Celts.

Unless something drastic happens this summer, Jaylen will have a chance to prove he's worth keeping.

Remember, Jamal Murray and Ben Simmons got 34m per year.

How much is Jaylen worth?

That's one of the questions about Jaylen that will be answered in the 2019-20 season.



 Don't agree with this logic at all. Especially with Tatum.

 Kyrie is gone. Tatum is the Real #1 pick of his class. He's 21 years old.

 His shot attempts are going from 13 per game to 18 per game. Maybe more.

 He will avg 20ppg this year or next. Book it.

Re: Some Potential Talent to Obtain If We Need to Move Brown?
« Reply #8 on: July 27, 2019, 07:48:18 AM »

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Jaylen Brown is the guy I most want to keep because out of our scorers (Tatum, Hayward, Kemba) Jaylen is the one who needs the ball the least on offense & because he is a terrific defensive talent.

Out of our top players, I believe Jaylen is the one who best fits next to other star players because he can impact the game well off the ball. To me he is the biggest keeper on the team.

I don't think Tatum and Hayward are legit scorers at this point in time.

Hayward was a scorer in Utah.
But until he regains his all-star form, he can't be considered a scorer just yet.

Tatum has yet to average 20 points per game.
Until that happens, Tatum can't be considered a scorer.

Right now only Kemba is a legit scorer on the Celts.

Unless something drastic happens this summer, Jaylen will have a chance to prove he's worth keeping.

Remember, Jamal Murray and Ben Simmons got 34m per year.

How much is Jaylen worth?

That's one of the questions about Jaylen that will be answered in the 2019-20 season.



 Don't agree with this logic at all. Especially with Tatum.

 Kyrie is gone. Tatum is the Real #1 pick of his class. He's 21 years old.

 His shot attempts are going from 13 per game to 18 per game. Maybe more.

 He will avg 20ppg this year or next. Book it.
Yeah, I think it's fairly reasonable to expect him to put up 20 or so PPG.

If he continues at his efficiency of his sophomore year (which was down considerably from his rookie year, mind you) but increases his attempts and usage, which will naturally happen, then I see it happening.

If he takes 18.5 FGA, 5 3PA and 4 FTA for the season on last years averages he should average just over 21PPG. I don't think that's too out of the question.
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Re: Some Potential Talent to Obtain If We Need to Move Brown?
« Reply #9 on: July 27, 2019, 10:56:32 AM »

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Jaylen Brown is the guy I most want to keep because out of our scorers (Tatum, Hayward, Kemba) Jaylen is the one who needs the ball the least on offense & because he is a terrific defensive talent.

Out of our top players, I believe Jaylen is the one who best fits next to other star players because he can impact the game well off the ball. To me he is the biggest keeper on the team.

I don't think Tatum and Hayward are legit scorers at this point in time.

Hayward was a scorer in Utah.
But until he regains his all-star form, he can't be considered a scorer just yet.

Tatum has yet to average 20 points per game.
Until that happens, Tatum can't be considered a scorer.

Right now only Kemba is a legit scorer on the Celts.

Unless something drastic happens this summer, Jaylen will have a chance to prove he's worth keeping.

Remember, Jamal Murray and Ben Simmons got 34m per year.

How much is Jaylen worth?

That's one of the questions about Jaylen that will be answered in the 2019-20 season.



 Don't agree with this logic at all. Especially with Tatum.

 Kyrie is gone. Tatum is the Real #1 pick of his class. He's 21 years old.

 His shot attempts are going from 13 per game to 18 per game. Maybe more.

 He will avg 20ppg this year or next. Book it.

I'm a big Jayson Tatum fan.

All I'm saying is until it happens, it's still premature to say that he's already a scorer at this point in time.

Last season the Celts were supposed to be in the 2019 NBA Finals because they had so much talent.

That was the logic for such high expectations for last season's Celtics team.

We all know what happened in the end.




Re: Some Potential Talent to Obtain If We Need to Move Brown?
« Reply #10 on: July 27, 2019, 11:08:24 AM »

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Ainge not trading Tatum or Brown
C/PF-Horford, Baynes, Noel, Theis, Morris,
SF/SG- Tatum, Brown, Hayward, Smart, Semi, Clark
PG- Irving, Rozier, Larkin

Re: Some Potential Talent to Obtain If We Need to Move Brown?
« Reply #11 on: July 27, 2019, 11:09:47 AM »

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Ainge not trading Tatum or Brown

Not right now.

But time will come when the Celts will have to decide if they're going to give Brown big money or not.

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« Reply #12 on: July 27, 2019, 11:18:50 AM »

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I think the answer to the OP's question in the title is: why would we need to move Brown?  I don't get this obsession with trading him.

Well there are few here that just keep proposing trade after trade for brown.  I don't get it either. 

Re: Some Potential Talent to Obtain If We Need to Move Brown?
« Reply #13 on: July 27, 2019, 11:51:42 AM »

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Why are we thinking about trading Jaylen when he projects to be just as good as Gordon if not better?

Re: Some Potential Talent to Obtain If We Need to Move Brown?
« Reply #14 on: July 27, 2019, 12:18:48 PM »

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Should read:


Some Potential Unobtainible Talent to Obtain If We Need to Move Brown, but would have to add a lot because Brown would not be enough......

 

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