Rozier S&T complete: C's Receive 2nd round pick

[hwangjini_1]

First question, did Boston get a TE?   (somehow I doubt it)


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did you mean to post in the NE patriot thread?   

[knuckleballer]

First question, did Boston get a TE?   (somehow I doubt it)


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did you mean to post in the NE patriot thread?   

Grant Williams would be an awesome TE, but I will take him as a power forward.

[libermaniac]

Disappointed to find out it is 53 and not 55 protected. I think it is possible we finish in the top 7 in the league with the West teams beating each other up. I guess a pick that late doesn't hold much value regardless, but surprised a deal was made where it is conceivably possible we actually get a worse 2nd round pick than CHA.

I do get the good will part of the deal, though, and would like to see more teams continue to do S&Ts moving forward (and they absolutely have this off-season!). Teams losing All-Star FAs for absolutely nothing is just not a fair practice in the NBA. It's too bad about being hard-capped, but this isn't necessarily common anyway.

Also, just to echo SL - there was no benefit whatsoever to us doing this deal financially. We had enough money for Kemba and Theis. This was 1st done for the possibility of keeping Horford and when that didn't pan out, there was no reason not to let CHA have Rozier.

At that point in the draft, you are more often than not talking about a talent like Tremont Waters.  Won't move the needle either way.

I hope I can find this quote when Waters becomes the next Avery Bradley.

I hope you can too!  I AM a Celtics fan.  Would love to be wrong.

[Muzzy66]

I guess the point of the S&T was to hope for a triple S&T with Charlotte AND Brooklyn, but once the latter’s asking price was too high, they were out. Boston simply didn’t want to renege (maybe it helped Charlotte?), hence why they are swapping second-rounders.

Charlotte did not have the cap space to sign Rozier. If we don't do a sign and trade they could not have paid him.

So basically, the sign and trade didn't benefit us in anyway, only Charlotte?

No, we will most likely get a pick out of it or improve our draft position.  Which is standard practice — we got a protected pick that never conveyed when we sent Humphries to Washington a few summers ago.

The odds that we finish with the 7th best record, or better, in the NBA AND that Brooklyn finishes ahead of us (so they’re at least the 6th bets team) are quite low.  Brooklyn will be without KD for the year.  It’s really hard to see them finishing with a top-6 record, and it’s even harder to see that occurring in the same world in which we finish with a top-7 record.

We almost certainly got something.  There’s a corner case in which we don’t.

Agreed. I think the top 8 teams look something like:

LAC
Bucks
Philly
Utah
LAL
Nuggets
Warriors
Houston

With Boston having a chance to sneak in. I don’t see the Celts as likely to finish top 7 and Brooklyn would be lucky to finish top 10.

Hate to admit it, but I think Lakers will be much higher then that. 

I initially projected them to not be great once they lost out on Kawhi - but they have added a surprising number of quality veterans to that roster. Lebron, Anthony Davis, Demarcus Cousins, Kyle Kouzma, Danny Green, Rajon Rondo, Avery Bradley, Kentavious Caldell Pope, JaVale McGee. Sad to say but that's a hell of a lot stronger on paper then the last Cavs team that Lebron took to the NBA finals.