Danny's Player Signing Management

[obnoxiousmime]

It's only been a couple of games vs. mostly non-NBA caliber players.  I like the picks but the jury is still out.  That said, it does seem that Drafter Danny did a better job this year overall.

Couldn't agree more... The fact that every pick from this years draft has contributed more than 2016 16th pick Yabs is at least encouraging.

Now to just somehow be rid of the Dancing Bear

I highly doubt the team picks up his option by end of October (or whenever the deadline is) so he'll be UFA after upcoming season. Unless he's traded during the season you won't see him around for long. He'll be back in China playing ball.

Dancing Panda? 

[jambr380]

I am not too worried right now. After the deadline we should be able to add a couple of vets to help us down the stretch. Yabu will surely be gone either in trade or buy-out and if somebody like Edwards really works out, then Wanamaker will be easy to cut as well.

We are so far away from the luxury tax that it doesn't really matter if we eventually cut some guys who are expiring. I know the Cs signed Strus, but if Tacko becomes the apple of Danny's eye, it will be easy to cut him, too, and add him as the other two-way with Waters.

[nickagneta]

My concern is once again having too few vets.  Kemba and Smart are the only guys on the team that automatically command respect. Not Hayward: too injures, and the coach’s pet. Not Kanter. Not...

That’s it. Four  guys with four or more years of experience.  If you count Tacko and Waters, that’s six rookies and a bunch of guys with between one and three years of experience. 

I have never liked rosters like that, even in the CB Draft.

Well....having GMed with you, you know how I feel....I hate young teams. Here is the roster after the top 6 players...Player/Age/Career Games Played:

Daniel Theis/27/129
Semi Ojeleye/24/129
Guerschon Yabusele/23/74
Robert Williams/21/32
Brad Wanamaker/29/36
Romeo Langford19/0
Grant Williams/20/0
Carsen Edwards/21/0
Tremont Waters/21/0
Vincent Poirier/25/0
Tacko Fall/23/0.

So after the top 6 players on the team, the entire rest of the team has 400 games of NBA experience.

To put that into perspective, Marcus Smart, a five year vet that has missed 69 games, has 341 career games played. So the bottom 11 guys on the team has only 59 combined career games played more than just Marcus Smart, a 25 year old, 5 year veteran.

That is a team who's lack of depth is going to hurt them in the standings and even more so in the playoffs.

[Moranis]

My concern is once again having too few vets.  Kemba and Smart are the only guys on the team that automatically command respect. Not Hayward: too injures, and the coach’s pet. Not Kanter. Not...

That’s it. Four  guys with four or more years of experience.  If you count Tacko and Waters, that’s six rookies and a bunch of guys with between one and three years of experience. 

I have never liked rosters like that, even in the CB Draft.

Well....having GMed with you, you know how I feel....I hate young teams. Here is the roster after the top 6 players...Player/Age/Career Games Played:

Daniel Theis/27/129
Semi Ojeleye/24/129
Guerschon Yabusele/23/74
Robert Williams/21/32
Brad Wanamaker/29/36
Romeo Langford19/0
Grant Williams/20/0
Carsen Edwards/21/0
Tremont Waters/21/0
Vincent Poirier/25/0
Tacko Fall/23/0.

So after the top 6 players on the team, the entire rest of the team has 400 games of NBA experience.

To put that into perspective, Marcus Smart, a five year vet that has missed 69 games, has 341 career games played. So the bottom 11 guys on the team has only 59 combined career games played more than just Marcus Smart, a 25 year old, 5 year veteran.

That is a team who's lack of depth is going to hurt them in the standings and even more so in the playoffs.

a lot of those players played professionally for several years before joining the NBA though.  That matters when talking about experience.  They all aren't 19 or 20 year old kids. 

And experience is overrated.  At the end of the day, talent is the most important ingredient.  And that is where this team will fall short.  It just doesn't have enough talent to be a realistic contender.

[libermaniac]

My concern is once again having too few vets.  Kemba and Smart are the only guys on the team that automatically command respect. Not Hayward: too injures, and the coach’s pet. Not Kanter. Not...

That’s it. Four  guys with four or more years of experience.  If you count Tacko and Waters, that’s six rookies and a bunch of guys with between one and three years of experience. 

I have never liked rosters like that, even in the CB Draft.

Well....having GMed with you, you know how I feel....I hate young teams. Here is the roster after the top 6 players...Player/Age/Career Games Played:

Daniel Theis/27/129
Semi Ojeleye/24/129
Guerschon Yabusele/23/74
Robert Williams/21/32
Brad Wanamaker/29/36
Romeo Langford19/0
Grant Williams/20/0
Carsen Edwards/21/0
Tremont Waters/21/0
Vincent Poirier/25/0
Tacko Fall/23/0.

So after the top 6 players on the team, the entire rest of the team has 400 games of NBA experience.

To put that into perspective, Marcus Smart, a five year vet that has missed 69 games, has 341 career games played. So the bottom 11 guys on the team has only 59 combined career games played more than just Marcus Smart, a 25 year old, 5 year veteran.

That is a team who's lack of depth is going to hurt them in the standings and even more so in the playoffs.

a lot of those players played professionally for several years before joining the NBA though.  That matters when talking about experience.  They all aren't 19 or 20 year old kids. 

And experience is overrated.  At the end of the day, talent is the most important ingredient.  And that is where this team will fall short.  It just doesn't have enough talent to be a realistic contender.

I couldn't disagree more.  Have you looked at the first 3 year stats of today's superstars like Kawhi, Paul George, Harden, etc..?  Very pedestrian.  In the NBA, true you need talent but that talent needs to mature.

[nickagneta]

My concern is once again having too few vets.  Kemba and Smart are the only guys on the team that automatically command respect. Not Hayward: too injures, and the coach’s pet. Not Kanter. Not...

That’s it. Four  guys with four or more years of experience.  If you count Tacko and Waters, that’s six rookies and a bunch of guys with between one and three years of experience. 

I have never liked rosters like that, even in the CB Draft.

Well....having GMed with you, you know how I feel....I hate young teams. Here is the roster after the top 6 players...Player/Age/Career Games Played:

Daniel Theis/27/129
Semi Ojeleye/24/129
Guerschon Yabusele/23/74
Robert Williams/21/32
Brad Wanamaker/29/36
Romeo Langford19/0
Grant Williams/20/0
Carsen Edwards/21/0
Tremont Waters/21/0
Vincent Poirier/25/0
Tacko Fall/23/0.

So after the top 6 players on the team, the entire rest of the team has 400 games of NBA experience.

To put that into perspective, Marcus Smart, a five year vet that has missed 69 games, has 341 career games played. So the bottom 11 guys on the team has only 59 combined career games played more than just Marcus Smart, a 25 year old, 5 year veteran.

That is a team who's lack of depth is going to hurt them in the standings and even more so in the playoffs.

a lot of those players played professionally for several years before joining the NBA though.  That matters when talking about experience.  They all aren't 19 or 20 year old kids. 

And experience is overrated.  At the end of the day, talent is the most important ingredient.  And that is where this team will fall short.  It just doesn't have enough talent to be a realistic contender.

I definitely do discount non-NBA experience. The NBA is a way different league than any other in the world. Most non-NBA pro leagues play about the same amount of games as in the NCAA. Also, most pro leagues other than the NBA have talent levels below NCAA games. If I am discounting NCAA experience, if I am discounting G League experience, then I am discounting European/Chinese/South American experience, especially for someone that wasn't a superstar player, like say Zion was in the NCAA or Doncic was in Europe.

[spikelovetheCelts]

Danny having to make hard roster cuts is a good thing. James Young and RJ Hunter where are they now. Who have we cut we regret lately. No One I can remember. But I do hope Tacko gets a two-way.

[blink]

My concern is once again having too few vets.  Kemba and Smart are the only guys on the team that automatically command respect. Not Hayward: too injures, and the coach’s pet. Not Kanter. Not...

That’s it. Four  guys with four or more years of experience.  If you count Tacko and Waters, that’s six rookies and a bunch of guys with between one and three years of experience. 

I have never liked rosters like that, even in the CB Draft.

That is why I was hoping for Avery Bradley as a backup SG, and before that getting Steven Adams from OKC.  We are extremely short on veteran leadership, and both would have solidified our team more.

[Birdman]

Danny track record at drafting players is not very good

[Bobshot]

I think some changes will be made in the roster by the end of training camp. I expect both Fall and Robert Williams to make the team, if things continue in the summer league as they have the first two games. Yabu could be eating his way out of a job, and there are another couple players on that 15 man roster who are expendable for bigger players up front. It's possible Fall will wind up in Maine with a protected contract-- Austin Ainge signed him and really likes him, as many others do. He has become the fans' star of the summer league.

Danny hasn't been very active in trades so far this pre-season compared to some teams. I thought he missed the boat on Horford, but giving him 4 years would have been unwise. Philly will suffer that contract. I think he made a good signing in Kanter, but he's still weak up front compared to other teams.Theis is a 4, not a 5. The two 7 footers, Robert and Fall, could make the team if Danny wants to shift some emphasis to the inside. Robert is not a 7 footer, but he plays like one. I think more emphasis on the inside will be necessary for the Celtics to take the next step.

[jambr380]

I don't necessarily think we are a contender, but I am pretty comfortable knowing that our top 6 guys are all experienced enough and they are the ones that are going to get the bulk of the minutes.

Theis is 27 and in his 3rd NBA season; Poirier is 25, grown into his body, and should slide into his role well; even Semi is 24 and going into his 3rd year. Those are likely three of the next guys in your rotation.

If Edwards/Grant/Romeo break into the rotation, then wonderful! That will mean they've earned it.

As I stated above, even though I think we are in adequate shape right now, I do not believe this is the team we will end the season with. You can expect a trade using Yabu/young players/picks and/or at the very least subtracting Yabu and adding a vet after the deadline. We aren't in perfect shape moving forward, but we could be a lot worse off.

[jambr380]

Danny track record at drafting players is not very good

This is a boring, lazy take that has been proven wrong many times. He doesn't necessarily hit a home run every time, but he has drafted many quality players throughout the years.

It also isn't really the point of this thread.

[ETNCeltics]

Danny track record at drafting players is not very good

I think it's more fair to say it's middle of the pack to maybe into the upper half of the league.

Look at the Lakers, the Clippers, the Hornets, the Hawks drafts; they've been awful for several years. There are a lot of teams who've done much worse than Danny has in the draft.

[Bobshot]

I am not too worried right now. After the deadline we should be able to add a couple of vets to help us down the stretch. Yabu will surely be gone either in trade or buy-out and if somebody like Edwards really works out, then Wanamaker will be easy to cut as well.

We are so far away from the luxury tax that it doesn't really matter if we eventually cut some guys who are expiring. I know the Cs signed Strus, but if Tacko becomes the apple of Danny's eye, it will be easy to cut him, too, and add him as the other two-way with Waters.

The way Tacko has played the first two summer league games, and Austin Ainge's comments about him during the first game, I expect Fall will be signed to a Celtics contract. It's a question as to whether he goes to Maine or Boston. I'd like to see him play in the pre-season against NBA centers. He is a lot of easy points down low, because he can outreach everybody with his enormous extension. He also walls off the paint against penetration by offenses. You could see the intimidation in the Cavs game.

[bellerephon]

I am not too worried right now. After the deadline we should be able to add a couple of vets to help us down the stretch. Yabu will surely be gone either in trade or buy-out and if somebody like Edwards really works out, then Wanamaker will be easy to cut as well.

We are so far away from the luxury tax that it doesn't really matter if we eventually cut some guys who are expiring. I know the Cs signed Strus, but if Tacko becomes the apple of Danny's eye, it will be easy to cut him, too, and add him as the other two-way with Waters.

The way Tacko has played the first two summer league games, and Austin Ainge's comments about him during the first game, I expect Fall will be signed to a Celtics contract. It's a question as to whether he goes to Maine or Boston. I'd like to see him play in the pre-season against NBA centers. He is a lot of easy points down low, because he can outreach everybody with his enormous extension. He also walls off the paint against penetration by offenses. You could see the intimidation in the Cavs game.

He is already under contract with the Celtics. He currently has a one year, non-guaranteed contract. They can put him on the roster or convert it to a two-way contract. They can also try to convince him to sign with the Red Claws.