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Re: Latest Celtics Rumors (6/29)
« Reply #225 on: July 01, 2019, 11:07:13 AM »

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Noel signed with OKC
C/PF-Horford, Baynes, Noel, Theis, Morris,
SF/SG- Tatum, Brown, Hayward, Smart, Semi, Clark
PG- Irving, Rozier, Larkin

Re: Latest Celtics Rumors (6/29)
« Reply #226 on: July 01, 2019, 11:09:10 AM »

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Who is this french center i hear about? anyone has any info on him?

Vincent Poirier.  He’s 6’11” or 7’ depending where you look, 25, was one of the better centers in Europe.  He also said this spring that he’d only come to the NBA if he isn’t going to stay on the bench, so if he’s nearing a deal with the Celtics, they’ve presumably sold him that he’ll get on the court regularly.

Re: Latest Celtics Rumors (6/29)
« Reply #227 on: July 01, 2019, 11:10:50 AM »

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Noel signed with OKC

He backed out of it and OKC signed someone else I believe

Re: Latest Celtics Rumors (6/29)
« Reply #228 on: July 01, 2019, 11:11:24 AM »

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Noel signed with OKC

Where did you see that?

Re: Latest Celtics Rumors (6/29)
« Reply #229 on: July 01, 2019, 11:15:30 AM »

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Re: Latest Celtics Rumors (6/29)
« Reply #230 on: July 01, 2019, 11:18:16 AM »

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He did indeed back out...sorry guys and gals..they did had agreement..wonder what happen
C/PF-Horford, Baynes, Noel, Theis, Morris,
SF/SG- Tatum, Brown, Hayward, Smart, Semi, Clark
PG- Irving, Rozier, Larkin

Re: Latest Celtics Rumors (6/29)
« Reply #231 on: July 01, 2019, 11:24:02 AM »

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Kemba was great..but I am just a little concerned at how much time this is taking on a big. By the time it is settled absolutely no one of any value is going to be left on the board.

I hope Ainge has something set up that we do not know about because right now it looks grim.

It is back to asset building and growing our young players which I guess go hand in hand. Making a rash move like Smart and or Brown for a big might not be the most prudent long term move right now. It is not like we are trading for someone like Kat which is simply not happening without giving away our entire franchise and even then, not happening. Panic moves always come back to bite you in the end. I just don't see someone like Adams being worth losing a Smart or Brown. Makes no sense and I would actually begin to lose confidence in Ainge if did a knee jerk reaction which he usually does not do.

My expectations are set for next year as of now though, mid-high 40's win total and tough battle in first round of playoffs with hopefully a win. But it is only the first day of free agency so things can change for the better for us. They are definitely not the worst case which would have been no Kemba. If that happened, we could be looking at border of making playoffs. The better Hayward plays, the more likely we are to cross the 50 win total range but without a good big, we are not getting through certain teams in our conference as of now. Trade Smart for someone like Adams and we are probably not getting out of the first round.
We don't need to focus on wins.  We need to focus on player development.  I want to see Robert Williams get plenty of time as backup even if he's not ready for it.  Let's really see what Brown brings to the table since we're looking at paying him 25%Max.  Let's see if Tatum can step up to being a star.   

While you are right it's going to be hard for most of us fans to admit we are not a contender this upcoming year after going to game 7 of the ECF then coming into this prior year as the favorite out of the east.  It was a short time ago that we were all flying high.  Now it's we will make the playoffs but we are not good enough to compete with Philly, Bucks, Indy.  I am all for developing timelord.  I think by the end of the year he can be a 25 minute per game defensive force.  If he shows the effort in rebounding we will be better.  We need someone else for depth because I can't see Timelord and Theis being our two centers.  Theis should be the 3rd option and we should have another player splitting time with Williams.  Adams is a perfect fit with this team and it's a shame there is no way to grab him.  The C's need defense and rebounding at the center position.  Someone who can roll to the rim and hit a 15 ft pick and pop shot.  They don't even need to be a 3 pt shooter with the scorers the C's have.  Just see ball.  Go get ball.
I'd be perfectly fine with missing the playoffs this season.  Sometimes you have to take a step back to move forward.  We're not going to be a contender unless our young guys step up.  Getting some vets to make the playoffs is fine for lesser orgs where making the playoffs is an accomplishment but it doesn't get you to being a contender.

Would you not be concerned about growing frustration from Tatum and Brown?  I believe it's very important for them to continue their growth in a competitive environment.  Missing the playoffs would be a steep decline from their 2018 ECF run.   
Barring a rash of injuries, there's no chance the Celtics aren't a playoff team. If Tatum takes the step forward I expect and/or Hayward returns to his form of 2 years ago, we're likely a top 3 team in the East.

I agree completely.

But we will be exposed in the playoffs, if we have no legit big WITH a serviceable back up big.
You do understand we're going to acquire a big, and probably a couple of them? We aren't rolling into the season with RW3 and Theis as our main bigs.
I know people don't want to hear this on this board, especially after Kyrie, but at this point, the only real thing stopping the C's from being legit in the EAST is a Cousins type talent. Him being on the roster would legitimize the C's front court.

Re: Latest Celtics Rumors (6/29)
« Reply #232 on: July 01, 2019, 11:31:12 AM »

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Kemba was great..but I am just a little concerned at how much time this is taking on a big. By the time it is settled absolutely no one of any value is going to be left on the board.

I hope Ainge has something set up that we do not know about because right now it looks grim.

It is back to asset building and growing our young players which I guess go hand in hand. Making a rash move like Smart and or Brown for a big might not be the most prudent long term move right now. It is not like we are trading for someone like Kat which is simply not happening without giving away our entire franchise and even then, not happening. Panic moves always come back to bite you in the end. I just don't see someone like Adams being worth losing a Smart or Brown. Makes no sense and I would actually begin to lose confidence in Ainge if did a knee jerk reaction which he usually does not do.

My expectations are set for next year as of now though, mid-high 40's win total and tough battle in first round of playoffs with hopefully a win. But it is only the first day of free agency so things can change for the better for us. They are definitely not the worst case which would have been no Kemba. If that happened, we could be looking at border of making playoffs. The better Hayward plays, the more likely we are to cross the 50 win total range but without a good big, we are not getting through certain teams in our conference as of now. Trade Smart for someone like Adams and we are probably not getting out of the first round.
We don't need to focus on wins.  We need to focus on player development.  I want to see Robert Williams get plenty of time as backup even if he's not ready for it.  Let's really see what Brown brings to the table since we're looking at paying him 25%Max.  Let's see if Tatum can step up to being a star.   

While you are right it's going to be hard for most of us fans to admit we are not a contender this upcoming year after going to game 7 of the ECF then coming into this prior year as the favorite out of the east.  It was a short time ago that we were all flying high.  Now it's we will make the playoffs but we are not good enough to compete with Philly, Bucks, Indy.  I am all for developing timelord.  I think by the end of the year he can be a 25 minute per game defensive force.  If he shows the effort in rebounding we will be better.  We need someone else for depth because I can't see Timelord and Theis being our two centers.  Theis should be the 3rd option and we should have another player splitting time with Williams.  Adams is a perfect fit with this team and it's a shame there is no way to grab him.  The C's need defense and rebounding at the center position.  Someone who can roll to the rim and hit a 15 ft pick and pop shot.  They don't even need to be a 3 pt shooter with the scorers the C's have.  Just see ball.  Go get ball.
I'd be perfectly fine with missing the playoffs this season.  Sometimes you have to take a step back to move forward.  We're not going to be a contender unless our young guys step up.  Getting some vets to make the playoffs is fine for lesser orgs where making the playoffs is an accomplishment but it doesn't get you to being a contender.

Would you not be concerned about growing frustration from Tatum and Brown?  I believe it's very important for them to continue their growth in a competitive environment.  Missing the playoffs would be a steep decline from their 2018 ECF run.   
Barring a rash of injuries, there's no chance the Celtics aren't a playoff team. If Tatum takes the step forward I expect and/or Hayward returns to his form of 2 years ago, we're likely a top 3 team in the East.

I agree completely.

But we will be exposed in the playoffs, if we have no legit big WITH a serviceable back up big.
You do understand we're going to acquire a big, and probably a couple of them? We aren't rolling into the season with RW3 and Theis as our main bigs.
I know people don't want to hear this on this board, especially after Kyrie, but at this point, the only real thing stopping the C's from being legit in the EAST is a Cousins type talent. Him being on the roster would legitimize the C's front court.

I'm on board with Cousins. If he would accept the money the Celtics could offer, it's a no-brainer, as far as I'm concerned.

Even at 75-80% he's still a beast. I know he is a knucklehead on the court, but I really haven't heard too much of him being a problem in the locker room.

Re: Latest Celtics Rumors (6/29)
« Reply #233 on: July 01, 2019, 11:33:03 AM »

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Kemba was great..but I am just a little concerned at how much time this is taking on a big. By the time it is settled absolutely no one of any value is going to be left on the board.

I hope Ainge has something set up that we do not know about because right now it looks grim.

It is back to asset building and growing our young players which I guess go hand in hand. Making a rash move like Smart and or Brown for a big might not be the most prudent long term move right now. It is not like we are trading for someone like Kat which is simply not happening without giving away our entire franchise and even then, not happening. Panic moves always come back to bite you in the end. I just don't see someone like Adams being worth losing a Smart or Brown. Makes no sense and I would actually begin to lose confidence in Ainge if did a knee jerk reaction which he usually does not do.

My expectations are set for next year as of now though, mid-high 40's win total and tough battle in first round of playoffs with hopefully a win. But it is only the first day of free agency so things can change for the better for us. They are definitely not the worst case which would have been no Kemba. If that happened, we could be looking at border of making playoffs. The better Hayward plays, the more likely we are to cross the 50 win total range but without a good big, we are not getting through certain teams in our conference as of now. Trade Smart for someone like Adams and we are probably not getting out of the first round.
We don't need to focus on wins.  We need to focus on player development.  I want to see Robert Williams get plenty of time as backup even if he's not ready for it.  Let's really see what Brown brings to the table since we're looking at paying him 25%Max.  Let's see if Tatum can step up to being a star.   

While you are right it's going to be hard for most of us fans to admit we are not a contender this upcoming year after going to game 7 of the ECF then coming into this prior year as the favorite out of the east.  It was a short time ago that we were all flying high.  Now it's we will make the playoffs but we are not good enough to compete with Philly, Bucks, Indy.  I am all for developing timelord.  I think by the end of the year he can be a 25 minute per game defensive force.  If he shows the effort in rebounding we will be better.  We need someone else for depth because I can't see Timelord and Theis being our two centers.  Theis should be the 3rd option and we should have another player splitting time with Williams.  Adams is a perfect fit with this team and it's a shame there is no way to grab him.  The C's need defense and rebounding at the center position.  Someone who can roll to the rim and hit a 15 ft pick and pop shot.  They don't even need to be a 3 pt shooter with the scorers the C's have.  Just see ball.  Go get ball.
I'd be perfectly fine with missing the playoffs this season.  Sometimes you have to take a step back to move forward.  We're not going to be a contender unless our young guys step up.  Getting some vets to make the playoffs is fine for lesser orgs where making the playoffs is an accomplishment but it doesn't get you to being a contender.

Would you not be concerned about growing frustration from Tatum and Brown?  I believe it's very important for them to continue their growth in a competitive environment.  Missing the playoffs would be a steep decline from their 2018 ECF run.   
Barring a rash of injuries, there's no chance the Celtics aren't a playoff team. If Tatum takes the step forward I expect and/or Hayward returns to his form of 2 years ago, we're likely a top 3 team in the East.

I agree completely.

But we will be exposed in the playoffs, if we have no legit big WITH a serviceable back up big.
You do understand we're going to acquire a big, and probably a couple of them? We aren't rolling into the season with RW3 and Theis as our main bigs.
I know people don't want to hear this on this board, especially after Kyrie, but at this point, the only real thing stopping the C's from being legit in the EAST is a Cousins type talent. Him being on the roster would legitimize the C's front court.

I'm on board with Cousins. If he would accept the money the Celtics could offer, it's a no-brainer, as far as I'm concerned.

Even at 75-80% he's still a beast. I know he is a knucklehead on the court, but I really haven't heard too much of him being a problem in the locker room.

One of the dirty secrets about Cousins is that he struggles a lot when defenses tighten up and refs stop calling fouls. For instance, the playoffs. I like Cousins, but this seems like a good time to build around our young guys.

Re: Latest Celtics Rumors (6/29)
« Reply #234 on: July 01, 2019, 11:33:25 AM »

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Brad just was freed from Kyrie, now we're going to give him Boogie to manage?

Sad Brad.  :(

Re: Latest Celtics Rumors (6/29)
« Reply #235 on: July 01, 2019, 11:33:50 AM »

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He did indeed back out...sorry guys and gals..they did had agreement..wonder what happen

maybe he will take a cheaper deal to come home to Boston in exchange for getting bigger minutes

Re: Latest Celtics Rumors (6/29)
« Reply #236 on: July 01, 2019, 11:52:33 AM »

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Who is this french center i hear about? anyone has any info on him?

Vincent Poirier.  He’s 6’11” or 7’ depending where you look, 25, was one of the better centers in Europe.  He also said this spring that he’d only come to the NBA if he isn’t going to stay on the bench, so if he’s nearing a deal with the Celtics, they’ve presumably sold him that he’ll get on the court regularly.

This guy has some springs and gets up and down the court. He can block shots and rebound. He's also very big. He has a little 10-12 foot jump shot. Poirier is 26. Looks like Steven Adams on the court.

Re: Latest Celtics Rumors (6/29)
« Reply #237 on: July 01, 2019, 12:56:37 PM »

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The Blazers have just acquired Hassan Whiteside.

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1145732637069385729?s=21

I assume that means that Kanter is unlikely to return

Re: Latest Celtics Rumors (6/29)
« Reply #238 on: July 01, 2019, 01:02:25 PM »

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please get a real player and not a stiff at the center position.

Re: Latest Celtics Rumors (6/29)
« Reply #239 on: July 01, 2019, 01:11:50 PM »

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He did indeed back out...sorry guys and gals..they did had agreement..wonder what happen

maybe he will take a cheaper deal to come home to Boston in exchange for getting bigger minutes

If we don't have the MLE it seems like a NN type player is the best we are going to get.  Getting major minutes on a prove you are worth a bigger deal might be really good for Noel.