stopgap bigs?

[mr. dee]

I'm surprised nobody is mentioning 'Kief. We can still technically retain Mook if we sign him.

[Emmette Bryant]

I'd take Zaza! I like the way he punishes people!

Well, this is the exact reason why I wouldn't take him. Don't like Zaza. He reminds me of Laimbeer. It's one thing to be aggressive. Zaza is trying to hurt people.

Maybe sign him up short term when we play Lakers.


To cover Kawhi.

I can't stand Zaza but I have to admit that I am amused by the idea of signing him just to get into Kawhi's head.

[footey]

I'm surprised nobody is mentioning 'Kief. We can still technically retain Mook if we sign him.

We have to renounce our rights to re-sign him to clear cap room to sign Kemba.

[goCeltics]

Holmes with the room exception Kaminsky or Fall at the minimum. Fall more likely to agree to the minimum and even a second-year team option would put him ahead. I Think Holmes hopefully would be keen for a second year also.

I would be wary of guys like Nerlens who I like, because who they have a history of injuries.

[mr. dee]

I'm surprised nobody is mentioning 'Kief. We can still technically retain Mook if we sign him.

We have to renounce our rights to re-sign him to clear cap room to sign Kemba.

I'm talking about signing Kief instead. Who knows if Mook is probably the one playing instead. There were some rumors about them swapping jerseys at some point

[Green-18]

Does anyone else believe that Ainge will be aggressive in making a trade AFTER the free agency period is over with?  I'm obviously making the assumption that there wont be a major deal for a player like Capela.  Right now the Celtics can't move any of their rookies. 

As for a specific target, how would people feel about Meyers Leonard as a potential trade option?  Portland should be willing to trade him for draft assets and salary filler, as he falls behind Nurkic and Collins on their depth chart.  He's in a contract year and I doubt Portland will be bringing him back after next season.

For the Celtics, Leonard would provide athleticism and shooting off the bench.  I could see him being an effective contributor for 20+ MPG. 

[NKY fan]

Bring KO back! Just have to figure outgoing salary
Kelly can replicate a lot of what Horford did if we keep his minutes under 25 a night

[mr. dee]

Bring KO back! Just have to figure outgoing salary
Kelly can replicate a lot of what Horford did if we keep his minutes under 25 a night

Except defense and rebounding, the most important thing we need for a big.

[NKY fan]

Bring KO back! Just have to figure outgoing salary
Kelly can replicate a lot of what Horford did if we keep his minutes under 25 a night

Except defense and rebounding, the most important thing we need for a big.

His defense is good in most situations and matchups.. Horfords rebounding was not good

[Surferdad]

If we don't trad for a big - Capela or Adams, then I think its going to be Vincent Poirier.

It look like the Clint Capela trade is pretty much done, it's all on Butler and the Sixers now.

Clint Capela trade rumors: Rockets have taker for big man, per report, won't deal him unless they get Jimmy Butler - 22 hrs ago
https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/clint-capela-trade-rumors-rockets-have-taker-for-big-man-per-report-wont-deal-him-unless-they-get-jimmy-butler/

But if it doesn't work out then Vincent Poirier is the guy.  I think it will cost too much to make the money work for Adams but I could be wrong.

Vincent Poirier: “I will not move to the NBA to find myself sitting on the bench”  - Apr 8, 2019
https://www.talkbasket.net/41049-vincent-poirier-i-will-not-move-to-the-nba-to-find-myself-sitting-on-the-bench

Boston Celtics reportedly approach Vincent Poirier - Apr 8, 2019
https://www.eurohoops.net/en/euroleague/858246/boston-celtics-reportedly-approach-vincent-poirier/


NBA Rumors: Celtics Among Teams Interested In France’s Vincent Poirier - Jun 22, 2019
https://nesn.com/2019/06/nba-rumors-celtics-among-teams-interested-in-frances-vincent-poirier/

Celtics reportedly among teams interested in signing French center Vincent Poirier  - Jun 22, 2019
https://www.nbcsports.com/boston/celtics/celtics-reportedly-among-teams-interested-signing-french-center-vincent-poirier

We might even sign him even if we make a trade for Capela or Adams because I think his staemnt is more about plaing time than about being the starter. I think if he comes off the bench and gets 20-25 minutes a night he'll be fine with that.

For those into stats and all that her's his data:
https://basketball.realgm.com/player/Vincent-Poirier/Summary/52578

I do think that if R. Williams is a raw Capela, then this guy falls somewhere in between the two.  I will say that R. Williams showed hits of a mid range game, so given time he could be the est of the three but clearly not right now.  Here are some highlights, pretty much dunks and blocks.

Vincent Poirier BEST Highlights from 2018-19 Season ᴴᴰ DUNKFEST!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lYP1ccwEzQ

Vincent Poirier ● Saski Baskonia ● 2018/19 Best Plays & Highlights ● NBA TALENT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQbWqbw3bzo&t=167s

Vincent Poirier SICK Highlights 2017-2018 ᴴᴰ - SHOWTIME!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4cv40uGCAY

Vincent POIRIER * DOMINATE * Brutal Highlights 2017 - 2018 *
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-pmuCX5vhc&t=118s

Focus on: Vincent Poirier, KIROLBET Baskonia Vitoria-Gasteiz  (this is an interview)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_U0iwbwL7Y

He looks, well, big.  I know nothing about the guy, but somehow this seems like a typical Danny move, with the idea that paying too much for a journeyman center is simply not worth it.  Instead, find a big man in Europe who does 75% of what you need at a fraction of the cost.

[Celtics4ever]

Vincient Poiere  Summer League Stats

In July 2016, he participated in the NBA Summer League with Orlando Magic. In his first match, he finished with 6 points, 5 rebounds and 1 assist in 15 minutes. In five matches (including a tenure), he has averages of 4.2 points, 4.4 rebounds, 0.6 assists and 0.4 blocks in 11.5 minutes per game

So those highlights are great but let's temper them with some realism.  Here is hoping he has improved some because he did not break into the rotation in 2016 Summer League.

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Bring KO back! Just have to figure outgoing salary
Kelly can replicate a lot of what Horford did if we keep his minutes under 25 a night

That is a ridiculous statement.    KO can't defend, which is half the game.

[NKY fan]

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Bring KO back! Just have to figure outgoing salary
Kelly can replicate a lot of what Horford did if we keep his minutes under 25 a night

That is a ridiculous statement.    KO can't defend, which is half the game.

Which part is ridiculous? Kelly has consistently ranked in the top third in DRPM...
do you divide big men into
good defenders - like 10% of them
And the rest 90% that can’t defend and not being worth of a roster spot

[Who]

With 4 scorers like Kemba, Tatum, Hayward and Jaylen ... Boston needs a rebounder / rebounder next to them more than an offensive big man (like Olynyk).

What little they (offensive bigs) improve the offense, they will more than give up on the other end in terms of downgrade in rebounding and defense.

Need someone who doesn't need the ball and is happy letting the others take all the shots because that is the situation.

[NKY fan]

With 4 scorers like Kemba, Tatum, Hayward and Jaylen ... Boston needs a rebounder / rebounder next to them more than an offensive big man (like Olynyk).

What little they (offensive bigs) improve the offense, they will more than give up on the other end in terms of downgrade in rebounding and defense.

Need someone who doesn't need the ball and is happy letting the others take all the shots because that is the situation.

Kelly attempts 7 field goals a game... I don’t see how this would take shots away from the scorers we have. Rebounding will be a little bit of a problem but that will be a problem with almost every center that we can afford unless he’s a rebounding / defensive specialist

[Who]

With 4 scorers like Kemba, Tatum, Hayward and Jaylen ... Boston needs a rebounder / rebounder next to them more than an offensive big man (like Olynyk).

What little they (offensive bigs) improve the offense, they will more than give up on the other end in terms of downgrade in rebounding and defense.

Need someone who doesn't need the ball and is happy letting the others take all the shots because that is the situation.

Kelly attempts 7 field goals a game... I don’t see how this would take shots away from the scorers we have. Rebounding will be a little bit of a problem but that will be a problem with almost every center that we can afford unless he’s a rebounding / defensive specialist

Exactly.

Olynyk will improve the offense but only a small bit because he will only have a small role offensively behind those other 4 scorers.

However, a rebounder / defender could help the team more with the improved rebounding (and to a lesser degree defense) over the smaller upgrade Olynyk brings offensively.

Extra possessions are vital. We have lots of scoring and offense already. What we need is someone who can get the team the ball back. Rebounds, rebounds, rebounds.