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Re: Keep Al, Sign Kemba idea that works within cap rules
« Reply #135 on: June 30, 2019, 05:38:17 PM »

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So my chest is pounding a little and I am not certain whether I am going to be massively disappointed or elated.  I can't read the tea leaves the way some of you can.   Tell me what the TR S&T which appears to be done deal REALLY mean regarding C's possibilities now.

EDIT:  In practical terms (at this point) does this simply mean that Kemba arrives via trade which puts the C's over the cap, thus ensuring C's COULD sign it's FAs and WILL get the full MLE?
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Re: Keep Al, Sign Kemba idea that works within cap rules
« Reply #136 on: June 30, 2019, 05:41:48 PM »

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Source close to Horford says that even after all the Celtics' cap gymnastics, he will not be winding up back in Boston.
https://twitter.com/SteveBHoop/status/1145442946797506565?s=19

Well, that was short-lived.

This, if true, is not the end of it.  Think sign and trade say with Houston for Capela and Tucker or something like that.  Because of the sign and trade with Brooklyn (hopefully actually true), we can keep the hold on Horford vs. just having to renounce him.  This is certainly not anything routine to sign and trade Horford but if we can get players or a trade exception back for Horford, we may be better off than signing Horford straight up.

This does make a lot of sense. What the PG sign and trades really do is let us hold onto Al's rights. Even if he doesnt end up back here we could use him as salary matching fodder to an over the cap trade for big depth or generate a pretty sizable trade exception to chase another center somewhere all while holding onto the MLE.

Re: Keep Al, Sign Kemba idea that works within cap rules
« Reply #137 on: June 30, 2019, 05:41:52 PM »

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I might be only one who is glad Al not coming back..not for 4 years

I am hoping we sign and trade him, then I will be very glad not to have him back.  If we lose him for nothing, not so much.

This!

Re: Keep Al, Sign Kemba idea that works within cap rules
« Reply #138 on: June 30, 2019, 05:46:57 PM »

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I might be only one who is glad Al not coming back..not for 4 years
You can always trade him later into the contract. Wouldn't be hard

Re: Keep Al, Sign Kemba idea that works within cap rules
« Reply #139 on: June 30, 2019, 05:50:35 PM »

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What consideration are we getting from Charlotte to sign and trade Terry Rozier? 

Also, I don't understand how we went from having to relinquish all of our cap holds in order to create cap room to sign Kembra, to now signing and trading Rozier, and still having cap space to sign Kembra. 

Can someone explain this?

Re: Keep Al, Sign Kemba idea that works within cap rules
« Reply #140 on: June 30, 2019, 05:53:20 PM »

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Oh well, but maybe they're doing it to get the full MLE (from 4M to about 9M)?

That still makes a difference when it comes to trying to sign a center.
this is what they are positing over on SoSH. And yes, that would make big difference in whom the celtics could bring in to play the center position.

I love Al, but 4 years is a long time.

Danny sure is making this exciting today.
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Re: Keep Al, Sign Kemba idea that works within cap rules
« Reply #141 on: June 30, 2019, 06:05:01 PM »

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My occupation deals a lot with numbers, and I'll never understand how some of you people make sense of the cap.

My job also deals with numbers.

Re: Keep Al, Sign Kemba idea that works within cap rules
« Reply #142 on: June 30, 2019, 06:06:14 PM »

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My occupation deals a lot with numbers, and I'll never understand how some of you people make sense of the cap.

My job also deals with numbers.

I know it does Danny  ;)

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« Reply #143 on: June 30, 2019, 06:10:18 PM »

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My occupation deals a lot with numbers, and I'll never understand how some of you people make sense of the cap.

My job also deals with numbers.

Thankfully, mine doesn’t.

But it does deal with lots and lots of rules.


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« Reply #144 on: June 30, 2019, 06:14:13 PM »

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My occupation deals a lot with numbers, and I'll never understand how some of you people make sense of the cap.

My job also deals with numbers.

I know it does Danny  ;)

lol

Re: Keep Al, Sign Kemba idea that works within cap rules
« Reply #145 on: June 30, 2019, 06:16:20 PM »

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Apparently Kevin O'Connor just said on The Ringer podcast that he's hearing Horford is likely going to Philly

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« Reply #146 on: June 30, 2019, 06:19:26 PM »

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Apparently Kevin O'Connor just said on The Ringer podcast that he's hearing Horford is likely going to Philly

That'd be a gut punch. Was happy with Al going elsewhere for bigger money, but if he goes to Philly on similar money, that's pretty effed up, especially because I do not like that fit at all. Al is starting to lose a step as he ages, and there's no way he can play PF full-time now with how small everyone has gone.
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Re: Keep Al, Sign Kemba idea that works within cap rules
« Reply #147 on: June 30, 2019, 06:23:04 PM »

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Apparently Kevin O'Connor just said on The Ringer podcast that he's hearing Horford is likely going to Philly

That'd be a gut punch. Was happy with Al going elsewhere for bigger money, but if he goes to Philly on similar money, that's pretty effed up, especially because I do not like that fit at all. Al is starting to lose a step as he ages, and there's no way he can play PF full-time now with how small everyone has gone.

Like I said, I think it's quite possible that Al just wants to move on.
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Re: Keep Al, Sign Kemba idea that works within cap rules
« Reply #148 on: June 30, 2019, 06:26:23 PM »

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Apparently Kevin O'Connor just said on The Ringer podcast that he's hearing Horford is likely going to Philly

That'd be a gut punch. Was happy with Al going elsewhere for bigger money, but if he goes to Philly on similar money, that's pretty effed up, especially because I do not like that fit at all. Al is starting to lose a step as he ages, and there's no way he can play PF full-time now with how small everyone has gone.
Maybe there are some teammates still here that he just doesn't like playing with.

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« Reply #149 on: June 30, 2019, 06:27:10 PM »

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Apparently Kevin O'Connor just said on The Ringer podcast that he's hearing Horford is likely going to Philly

That'd be a gut punch. Was happy with Al going elsewhere for bigger money, but if he goes to Philly on similar money, that's pretty effed up, especially because I do not like that fit at all. Al is starting to lose a step as he ages, and there's no way he can play PF full-time now with how small everyone has gone.

If the concern is Al losing a step, shouldn't you be glad if he ends up with a rival?


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