Romeo Langford(merged threads)

[saltlover]

I'm looking for Romeo to come back to the big team somewhere around game 15-20, and by midseason round into form as a solid bench scorer. Do we ever need it.

Not this year for Romeo.  I’m hoping for him to round into a useful reserve by the middle of next year.  He needs real time on the court — best to keep him in Maine as much as possible.

[Walker Wiggle]

Langford is on a very affordable contract with team control for 4 seasons.  He is competing for minutes with Brown, Smart, and Edwards right now (and to some degree Tatum and Hayward) but there is little opportunity cost to keep him on the roster.  He may get into a trade but I like the fit on the roster in terms of contract and role.

Guys are going to get hurt and he will get the chance to play along the way.  I am pretty sure the Celtics are not expecting all that much from him right away but he is a nice player for us on a good contract.  I predict he does stick around for a couple of seasons anyway.  His salary is only $3.4M.  Hard to see that making the difference in a trade for a big guy, but if he does have to go to get us back a decent big, i am fine with that.

Just to add to this... His development would be particularly useful if the team loses Hayward in free agency this summer, or if the team has to part ways with one of Tatum/Hayward/Brown in a trade for a high-priced big. Then you slide in a cheap young wing like Romeo supported by veterans elsewhere.

[hwangjini_1]

Romeo might not even be with the Celts after the trade deadline.

Celts already locked up Jaylen long-term, no need for Romeo.

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Kaufman said the Celts view him as a high ceiling 20 pt/game scorer. I know you're desperate to throw some random trade together for a big man, but do you have to junk up almost every thread with that stuff? Everyone who reads the board knows your feelings on it.

Locking up Brown and keeping Romeo are not mutually exclusive when you're playing 3 wings most of the time.

Like I said, Romeo MIGHT be traded, I didn't say it's a sure thing.

I think if the price to pay for a quality big man is Romeo, I think it's worth it.

The Raptors gambled on Kawhi last season.
It cost the Raptors their best player, DeRozan.
But why is it that Ujiri didn't get fired after losing DeRozan for nothing, after Kawhi left.
Reason is a championship is more valuable than any single player.

If the Raptors didn't win the championship last season, the trade for DeRozan would've been devastating to the Raptor franchise.

Raptors gave up DeRozan, Poeltl, and the #29 pick for Kawhi and Danny Green.
So right now the Raptors got nothing from that trade as both Danny Green and Kawhi went to the LA teams.

i sense some goal posts that have become very mobile.

[Sophomore]

I'm looking for Romeo to come back to the big team somewhere around game 15-20, and by midseason round into form as a solid bench scorer. Do we ever need it.

Not this year for Romeo.  I’m hoping for him to round into a useful reserve by the middle of next year.  He needs real time on the court — best to keep him in Maine as much as possible.

I guess it depends on their assessment of his progress. If giving him ~15 minutes a night would help the Celtics win, which seems entirely possible, I think that's at least as good for his development as 30 minutes a game in Maine.

Based on early reports he's not much like R Williams or T Rozier. Has a strong intuitive feel for the game and may be able to pick up the concepts quickly. Be interesting to find out what the coaches are seeing.

[saltlover]

I'm looking for Romeo to come back to the big team somewhere around game 15-20, and by midseason round into form as a solid bench scorer. Do we ever need it.

Not this year for Romeo.  I’m hoping for him to round into a useful reserve by the middle of next year.  He needs real time on the court — best to keep him in Maine as much as possible.

I guess it depends on their assessment of his progress. If giving him ~15 minutes a night would help the Celtics win, which seems entirely possible, I think that's at least as good for his development as 30 minutes a game in Maine.

Based on early reports he's not much like R Williams or T Rozier. Has a strong intuitive feel for the game and may be able to pick up the concepts quickly. Be interesting to find out what the coaches are seeing.

He’s not going to be ready for 15 minutes a night.  Not after 15 games at least.  He missed all of summer and much of training camp and the first weeks.  He’s a player with a lot of potential, but also a lot of flaws currently.  Best to let him figure those out in Maine’s.  And his long-term growth would be better if he were getting 30 minutes a night.  He’s someone who ultimately can be a secondary ball handler running an offense.  He won’t get that opportunity in Boston as a rookie barring multiple injuries.

[konkmv]

The ideal thing for him to be is to become a jalen back up next year

[Sophomore]

 

I'm looking for Romeo to come back to the big team somewhere around game 15-20, and by midseason round into form as a solid bench scorer. Do we ever need it.

Not this year for Romeo.  I’m hoping for him to round into a useful reserve by the middle of next year.  He needs real time on the court — best to keep him in Maine as much as possible.

I guess it depends on their assessment of his progress. If giving him ~15 minutes a night would help the Celtics win, which seems entirely possible, I think that's at least as good for his development as 30 minutes a game in Maine.

Based on early reports he's not much like R Williams or T Rozier. Has a strong intuitive feel for the game and may be able to pick up the concepts quickly. Be interesting to find out what the coaches are seeing.

He’s not going to be ready for 15 minutes a night.  Not after 15 games at least.  He missed all of summer and much of training camp and the first weeks.  He’s a player with a lot of potential, but also a lot of flaws currently.  Best to let him figure those out in Maine’s.  And his long-term growth would be better if he were getting 30 minutes a night.  He’s someone who ultimately can be a secondary ball handler running an offense.  He won’t get that opportunity in Boston as a rookie barring multiple injuries.

Went and looked at the red claws roster history. They haven’t had a draft pick with a shot to make the team for an extended stay over the past five years. Rozier and Young were the peak - they had years where they played 10-20 games. Cs haven’t tried yet to develop a guy with a high ceiling over most of the year.

I suspect the team believes there is a lot of value in being around the NBA environment and practices; it may also reflect the low, low quality of G League comp (remember then-D-league RoY and all-star Abdel Nader?)  Any road, unless they go in a very new direction he will be back before too long.

We’ll see about his minutes. He could’ve had minutes while Jaylen was out - it certainly happens that players get nicked - and I imagine him fitting well on several possible 2d units.

[RockinRyA]

I'm looking for Romeo to come back to the big team somewhere around game 15-20, and by midseason round into form as a solid bench scorer. Do we ever need it.

Not this year for Romeo.  I’m hoping for him to round into a useful reserve by the middle of next year.  He needs real time on the court — best to keep him in Maine as much as possible.

I guess it depends on their assessment of his progress. If giving him ~15 minutes a night would help the Celtics win, which seems entirely possible, I think that's at least as good for his development as 30 minutes a game in Maine.

Based on early reports he's not much like R Williams or T Rozier. Has a strong intuitive feel for the game and may be able to pick up the concepts quickly. Be interesting to find out what the coaches are seeing.

He’s not going to be ready for 15 minutes a night.  Not after 15 games at least.  He missed all of summer and much of training camp and the first weeks.  He’s a player with a lot of potential, but also a lot of flaws currently.  Best to let him figure those out in Maine’s.  And his long-term growth would be better if he were getting 30 minutes a night.  He’s someone who ultimately can be a secondary ball handler running an offense.  He won’t get that opportunity in Boston as a rookie barring multiple injuries.

I agree. He needs reps most of all, and he would get that in Maine more than with the main team.  Some guys like Grant Williams would benefit more from being with the Celtics than the Red Claws.

[KG Living Legend]

 Good job by the Ainges this year in the draft. B plus grade with Grant, Carsen Edwards, Tremont, and Tacko and Javonte.

 Romeo appears to be the turd in the punchbowl. Indiana fans thought he wasn't ready. Weak attitude. I really dislike the guy.

 Brandon Clarke is pretty good already. 11 PPG and 5.5 RPG shooting .607% from the field. That's not an abberation either.

 He was top 10 in the history of college basketball in FG%. Tacko is #1. His floater game is the best I have ever seen for a big man.

 Romeo I hope you hear this message. And prove me wrong, but with guys like Clarke, Sekou, and Naw on the board your not in the same class as those guys.

 Add to that we resign Brown. Hayward is back to All Star level and Tatum is the franchise. What was the point?

[DefenseWinsChamps]

A few things on this that bear mentioning, although I'm sure I've seen them before:

1 Sekou has gotten the same amount of NBA time as Romeo and proved just as much.
2 Clark and NAW are both over two years older than Romeo. So are Edwards, Williams, and Fall. That's more time to develop physically and your skills.
3 NAW has not shown anything in the actual regular season yet on a losing team.
4 Romeo was always drafted as a project with high potential.
5 Romeo has no path to playing time on this team right now. His strength is as a playmaker with the ball in his hands.

[Valid]

Do you think maybe Langford can get healthy and play one [dang] game before we start ridiculous threads like this? He was barely even able to play in preseason because of the knee issue.

The kid will be an absolute stud and will end up one of the top three players on this team in a couple of years. Book it.

[KG Living Legend]

A few things on this that bear mentioning, although I'm sure I've seen them before:

1 Sekou has gotten the same amount of NBA time as Romeo and proved just as much.
2 Clark and NAW are both over two years older than Romeo. So are Edwards, Williams, and Fall. That's more time to develop physically and your skills.
3 NAW has not shown anything in the actual regular season yet on a losing team.
4 Romeo was always drafted as a project with high potential.
5 Romeo has no path to playing time on this team right now. His strength is as a playmaker with the ball in his hands.

 Good points. Especially the last one. How is he ever gonna get major minutes.

[ozgod]

I think we should at least see what Romeo can do before calling him a turd, he hasn't really played after all 

[DefenseWinsChamps]

A few things on this that bear mentioning, although I'm sure I've seen them before:

1 Sekou has gotten the same amount of NBA time as Romeo and proved just as much.
2 Clark and NAW are both over two years older than Romeo. So are Edwards, Williams, and Fall. That's more time to develop physically and your skills.
3 NAW has not shown anything in the actual regular season yet on a losing team.
4 Romeo was always drafted as a project with high potential.
5 Romeo has no path to playing time on this team right now. His strength is as a playmaker with the ball in his hands.

 Good points. Especially the last one. How is he ever gonna get major minutes.

I don't know. But that's not a question that we will have a clear answer to this year. Maybe next year, but likely the year after. Other than that, he is a promising young player that could be traded.

[nickagneta]

Is this a thread to talk about Brandon Clarke or is it just another thread to take shots at the Langford pick? If it's the latter, I am merging it with the other complain about Romeo thread. If it is a thread on Clarke, I have to move it.

Either way, decide quick.