Woj: Brooklyn trades Crabbe and two 1sts to Atlanta for Prince and a 2nd

[Silky]

At this point, i am really excited with going with our youth, BUT i don’t want rozier back.

im fine with this take as long as people accept that we wouldn't have gotten out of the 1st round in 2018 had it not been for Rozier.  Rozier played like a borderline star and we barely beat a 45 win team in 7 games as a result.

17.5 on 13.5 shots and 40%and 38% from 3
6.7 assists
4.2 rebounds

for that 1 series he was. I would not call that star numbers. More like middle of the pack.


16 games as a starter this season
15-5-4on 40%fg and 41% 3t on 13 shots a game.

Mediocre efficiency, poor defense, tunnel vision.

I firmly believe team is better with Marcus Smart as the pg and drafting or MLE signing a backup.

[LatterDayCelticsfan]

How  did this become a thread about Terry Rozier and Marcus Smart, and Kyrie irving?

[nyceltsfan]

At this point, i am really excited with going with our youth, BUT i don’t want rozier back.

im fine with this take as long as people accept that we wouldn't have gotten out of the 1st round in 2018 had it not been for Rozier.  Rozier played like a borderline star and we barely beat a 45 win team in 7 games as a result.

If Kyrie leaves, Rozier will be on the team. People are gonna need to make peace with that

That may or may not be true.  Take a step back and look at the big picture.  The team won 49 games last year and was bounced in the second round.  If we had a pass first point guard (someone like Rondo) would the results have been better, worse or the same?  I am guessing that it would not have been worse.  I would like to do nothing but add a pass-first point guard and a big and see how far this team can go with the young guys and an improved Hayward.

[Silky]

Draft a pg with potential to replace Smart as a starter by next season(alexander walker at 14)

Draft a young floor spacing athletic bigman(samanic at 20)

Draft a defense firzt wing to pair off bench with Hayward and the pg (thybulle or Okpala at 22)

Use full MLE on a bigman (bryant, deadmon, whiteside if he opts out?)

Lle on Vince Carter- solid depth and he can coach brown/tatum and Rookie

Smart/NAW/Wannamaker
Brown/Vince/draft
Tatum/Hayward/Semi
Horford/Samanic/Yabuselle
MLE signing/Baynes/Williams.

Shop Horf and Hayward through season if offer is big enough.

Future team of

NAW
Brown
Tatum
Samanic
Williams.

Defense, scoring, shooting, driving, passing. Lineup has everythibg including youth

[slamtheking]

Draft a pg with potential to replace Smart as a starter by next season(alexander walker at 14)

Draft a young floor spacing athletic bigman(samanic at 20)

Draft a defense firzt wing to pair off bench with Hayward and the pg (thybulle or Okpala at 22)

Use full MLE on a bigman (bryant, deadmon, whiteside if he opts out?)

Lle on Vince Carter- solid depth and he can coach brown/tatum and Rookie

Smart/NAW/Wannamaker
Brown/Vince/draft
Tatum/Hayward/Semi
Horford/Samanic/Yabuselle
MLE signing/Baynes/Williams.

Shop Horf and Hayward through season if offer is big enough.

Future team of

NAW
Brown
Tatum
Samanic
Williams.

Defense, scoring, shooting, driving, passing. Lineup has everything including youth but no realistic chance of winning anything including a single playoff series.  well, they could win the lottery so there is that to look forward to

fixed it for you

[footey]

Draft a pg with potential to replace Smart as a starter by next season(alexander walker at 14)

Draft a young floor spacing athletic bigman(samanic at 20)

Draft a defense firzt wing to pair off bench with Hayward and the pg (thybulle or Okpala at 22)

Use full MLE on a bigman (bryant, deadmon, whiteside if he opts out?)

Lle on Vince Carter- solid depth and he can coach brown/tatum and Rookie

Smart/NAW/Wannamaker
Brown/Vince/draft
Tatum/Hayward/Semi
Horford/Samanic/Yabuselle
MLE signing/Baynes/Williams.

Shop Horf and Hayward through season if offer is big enough.

Future team of

NAW
Brown
Tatum
Samanic
Williams.

Defense, scoring, shooting, driving, passing. Lineup has everythibg including youth

Great if you’re gunning for lottery next year.

[Yoki_IsTheName]

At this point, i am really excited with going with our youth, BUT i don’t want rozier back.

im fine with this take as long as people accept that we wouldn't have gotten out of the 1st round in 2018 had it not been for Rozier.  Rozier played like a borderline star and we barely beat a 45 win team in 7 games as a result.

If Kyrie leaves, Rozier will be on the team. People are gonna need to make peace with that

That may or may not be true.  Take a step back and look at the big picture.  The team won 49 games last year and was bounced in the second round.  If we had a pass first point guard (someone like Rondo) would the results have been better, worse or the same?  I am guessing that it would not have been worse.  I would like to do nothing but add a pass-first point guard and a big and see how far this team can go with the young guys and an improved Hayward.

Man, this is why I want George Hill for this team if Kyrie Irving doesn't stay. He's going to be the perfect PG for our youth movement. Can score when called upon, unselfish, can play defense, rarely makes bonehead plays.

I just really don't know how we can get him.

[gouki88]

Draft a pg with potential to replace Smart as a starter by next season(alexander walker at 14)

Draft a young floor spacing athletic bigman(samanic at 20)

Draft a defense firzt wing to pair off bench with Hayward and the pg (thybulle or Okpala at 22)

Use full MLE on a bigman (bryant, deadmon, whiteside if he opts out?)

Lle on Vince Carter- solid depth and he can coach brown/tatum and Rookie

Smart/NAW/Wannamaker
Brown/Vince/draft
Tatum/Hayward/Semi
Horford/Samanic/Yabuselle
MLE signing/Baynes/Williams.

Shop Horf and Hayward through season if offer is big enough.

Future team of

NAW
Brown
Tatum
Samanic
Williams.

Defense, scoring, shooting, driving, passing. Lineup has everythibg including youth

Great if you’re gunning for lottery next year.

Dear lord that team is awful!

Lineup has everything except the prospect of winning 30+ games

[Silky]

Draft a pg with potential to replace Smart as a starter by next season(alexander walker at 14)

Draft a young floor spacing athletic bigman(samanic at 20)

Draft a defense firzt wing to pair off bench with Hayward and the pg (thybulle or Okpala at 22)

Use full MLE on a bigman (bryant, deadmon, whiteside if he opts out?)

Lle on Vince Carter- solid depth and he can coach brown/tatum and Rookie

Smart/NAW/Wannamaker
Brown/Vince/draft
Tatum/Hayward/Semi
Horford/Samanic/Yabuselle
MLE signing/Baynes/Williams.

Shop Horf and Hayward through season if offer is big enough.

Future team of

NAW
Brown
Tatum
Samanic
Williams.

Defense, scoring, shooting, driving, passing. Lineup has everythibg including youth

Great if you’re gunning for lottery next year.

Dear lord that team is awful!

Lineup has everything except the prospect of winning 30+ games

No it isnt.

Smart/NAW Wannamaker
Brown/Vince/Draft
Tatum/Hayward/Semi
horford/Samanic/Yabuselle
Baynes/MLE Center/Williams

That is the last 2 years teams, with an improved Smart at the PG spot, and some nice better balanced depth/youth.

This is not a lotto team, where are you getting that from.

I assume you read what I posted as a "FUTURE TEAM" of NAW/Brown/Tatum/Samanic/Williams

[Monkhouse]

Draft a pg with potential to replace Smart as a starter by next season(alexander walker at 14)

Draft a young floor spacing athletic bigman(samanic at 20)

Draft a defense firzt wing to pair off bench with Hayward and the pg (thybulle or Okpala at 22)

Use full MLE on a bigman (bryant, deadmon, whiteside if he opts out?)

Lle on Vince Carter- solid depth and he can coach brown/tatum and Rookie

Smart/NAW/Wannamaker
Brown/Vince/draft
Tatum/Hayward/Semi
Horford/Samanic/Yabuselle
MLE signing/Baynes/Williams.

Shop Horf and Hayward through season if offer is big enough.

Future team of

NAW
Brown
Tatum
Samanic
Williams.

Defense, scoring, shooting, driving, passing. Lineup has everythibg including youth

Lineup has everything except for being able to actually win games...

[Silky]

Draft a pg with potential to replace Smart as a starter by next season(alexander walker at 14)

Draft a young floor spacing athletic bigman(samanic at 20)

Draft a defense firzt wing to pair off bench with Hayward and the pg (thybulle or Okpala at 22)

Use full MLE on a bigman (bryant, deadmon, whiteside if he opts out?)

Lle on Vince Carter- solid depth and he can coach brown/tatum and Rookie

Smart/NAW/Wannamaker
Brown/Vince/draft
Tatum/Hayward/Semi
Horford/Samanic/Yabuselle
MLE signing/Baynes/Williams.

Shop Horf and Hayward through season if offer is big enough.

Future team of

NAW
Brown
Tatum
Samanic
Williams.

Defense, scoring, shooting, driving, passing. Lineup has everythibg including youth

Great if you’re gunning for lottery next year.

Did youo even read the entire post?

How is Smart/Brown/tatum/Horford/Baynes with a bench of NAW/Carter/Hayward/Samannic/MLE Center a LOTTO TEAM??

I mean that team will easily win 45 games and make the playoffs. Its this years team minus Kyrie and Rozier but adding NAW, Sammanic, Carter and a MLE center.

[Silky]

Draft a pg with potential to replace Smart as a starter by next season(alexander walker at 14)

Draft a young floor spacing athletic bigman(samanic at 20)

Draft a defense firzt wing to pair off bench with Hayward and the pg (thybulle or Okpala at 22)

Use full MLE on a bigman (bryant, deadmon, whiteside if he opts out?)

Lle on Vince Carter- solid depth and he can coach brown/tatum and Rookie

Smart/NAW/Wannamaker
Brown/Vince/draft
Tatum/Hayward/Semi
Horford/Samanic/Yabuselle
MLE signing/Baynes/Williams.

Shop Horf and Hayward through season if offer is big enough.

Future team of

NAW
Brown
Tatum
Samanic
Williams.

Defense, scoring, shooting, driving, passing. Lineup has everything including youth but no realistic chance of winning anything including a single playoff series.  well, they could win the lottery so there is that to look forward to

fixed it for you

and another one, did you even read the entire post?

Smart
Brown
Tatum
Horford
Baynes/mle signing

that is not a lotto team.

The "FUTURE TEAM" mean in the future, not next year.


Once NAW and Sammanic and Williams develop and reach their potentials the lineup would change to incorporating them, might be a year or 3, but eventually we all hope that rookies develop into great starters.

[gouki88]

Draft a pg with potential to replace Smart as a starter by next season(alexander walker at 14)

Draft a young floor spacing athletic bigman(samanic at 20)

Draft a defense firzt wing to pair off bench with Hayward and the pg (thybulle or Okpala at 22)

Use full MLE on a bigman (bryant, deadmon, whiteside if he opts out?)

Lle on Vince Carter- solid depth and he can coach brown/tatum and Rookie

Smart/NAW/Wannamaker
Brown/Vince/draft
Tatum/Hayward/Semi
Horford/Samanic/Yabuselle
MLE signing/Baynes/Williams.

Shop Horf and Hayward through season if offer is big enough.

Future team of

NAW
Brown
Tatum
Samanic
Williams.

Defense, scoring, shooting, driving, passing. Lineup has everythibg including youth

Great if you’re gunning for lottery next year.

Dear lord that team is awful!

Lineup has everything except the prospect of winning 30+ games

No it isnt.

Smart/NAW Wannamaker
Brown/Vince/Draft
Tatum/Hayward/Semi
horford/Samanic/Yabuselle
Baynes/MLE Center/Williams

That is the last 2 years teams, with an improved Smart at the PG spot, and some nice better balanced depth/youth.

This is not a lotto team, where are you getting that from.

I assume you read what I posted as a "FUTURE TEAM" of NAW/Brown/Tatum/Samanic/Williams

Except for the fact that Kyrie Irving has played 127 regular season games for the Boston Celtics over the last 2 seasons...

It might overachieve because Brad seems to work wonders with underachievers, but your idea of shopping Horford and Hayward is terrible for us. If Horford senses that why wouldn't he just opt out and leave?

[Monkhouse]

Draft a pg with potential to replace Smart as a starter by next season(alexander walker at 14)

Draft a young floor spacing athletic bigman(samanic at 20)

Draft a defense firzt wing to pair off bench with Hayward and the pg (thybulle or Okpala at 22)

Use full MLE on a bigman (bryant, deadmon, whiteside if he opts out?)

Lle on Vince Carter- solid depth and he can coach brown/tatum and Rookie

Smart/NAW/Wannamaker
Brown/Vince/draft
Tatum/Hayward/Semi
Horford/Samanic/Yabuselle
MLE signing/Baynes/Williams.

Shop Horf and Hayward through season if offer is big enough.

Future team of

NAW
Brown
Tatum
Samanic
Williams.

Defense, scoring, shooting, driving, passing. Lineup has everythibg including youth

Great if you’re gunning for lottery next year.

Did youo even read the entire post?

How is Smart/Brown/tatum/Horford/Baynes with a bench of NAW/Carter/Hayward/Samannic/MLE Center a LOTTO TEAM??

I mean that team will easily win 45 games and make the playoffs. Its this years team minus Kyrie and Rozier but adding NAW, Sammanic, Carter and a MLE center.

Good thing Ainge is the GM.

[Silky]

Draft a pg with potential to replace Smart as a starter by next season(alexander walker at 14)

Draft a young floor spacing athletic bigman(samanic at 20)

Draft a defense firzt wing to pair off bench with Hayward and the pg (thybulle or Okpala at 22)

Use full MLE on a bigman (bryant, deadmon, whiteside if he opts out?)

Lle on Vince Carter- solid depth and he can coach brown/tatum and Rookie

Smart/NAW/Wannamaker
Brown/Vince/draft
Tatum/Hayward/Semi
Horford/Samanic/Yabuselle
MLE signing/Baynes/Williams.

Shop Horf and Hayward through season if offer is big enough.

Future team of

NAW
Brown
Tatum
Samanic
Williams.

Defense, scoring, shooting, driving, passing. Lineup has everythibg including youth

Great if you’re gunning for lottery next year.

Dear lord that team is awful!

Lineup has everything except the prospect of winning 30+ games

No it isnt.

Smart/NAW Wannamaker
Brown/Vince/Draft
Tatum/Hayward/Semi
horford/Samanic/Yabuselle
Baynes/MLE Center/Williams

That is the last 2 years teams, with an improved Smart at the PG spot, and some nice better balanced depth/youth.

This is not a lotto team, where are you getting that from.

I assume you read what I posted as a "FUTURE TEAM" of NAW/Brown/Tatum/Samanic/Williams

Except for the fact that Kyrie Irving has played 127 regular season games for the Boston Celtics over the last 2 seasons...

It might overachieve because Brad seems to work wonders with underachievers, but your idea of shopping Horford and Hayward is terrible for us. If Horford senses that why wouldn't he just opt out and leave?

I clearly stated if the offers are good enough.

And he could opt out and leave, but I do not think that he will do that.