Woj: Rockets making CP3, others available

[wiley]

I guess the most obvious trade with Houston is Smart & Memphis pick for Capela. The salaries match. It's certainly a starting point for a trade.

Capela would probably thrive on a team that doesn't play as much hero-ball.

Would not trade Smart alone for Capela.  Would not trade Memphis pick alone for Capela. 

[Fafnir]

Yeah spending big money on a Center who can be played off the court isn't great. Not unless you already have the rest of the pieces locked in which the C's do not.

[RodyTur10]

Yeah spending big money on a Center who can be played off the court isn't great. Not unless you already have the rest of the pieces locked in which the C's do not.

I'm not really a big fan of Capela at all, but he has almost never been played off the court. He's pretty good at switching.
His free throws are bad, but we don't see hack-a-capela (or anybody else) a lot anymore.

I do agree that spending big money on limited (not bad per se) centers like Whiteside, Drummond, Adams, Gobert, Thompson, Valanciunas, Biyombo, Capela, Mozgov, Dieng, Mahinmi, Cody Zeller, Mason Plumlee, Miles Plumlee generally is bad business. With a few exceptions, those teams won't be happy with these contracts.

That list became a lot longer than I expected. My goodness that's a lot of wasted money.

I want to see a game of basketball with these 14 players (5 vs 5, both sides have 2 reserves). That would be fun!

[LilRip]

Yeah spending big money on a Center who can be played off the court isn't great. Not unless you already have the rest of the pieces locked in which the C's do not.

I'm not really a big fan of Capela at all, but he has almost never been played off the court. He's pretty good at switching.
His free throws are bad, but we don't see hack-a-capela (or anybody else) a lot anymore.

I do agree that spending big money on limited (not bad per se) centers like Whiteside, Drummond, Adams, Gobert, Thompson, Valanciunas, Biyombo, Capela, Mozgov, Dieng, Mahinmi, Cody Zeller, Mason Plumlee, Miles Plumlee generally is bad business. With a few exceptions, those teams won't be happy with these contracts.

That list became a lot longer than I expected. My goodness that's a lot of wasted money.

I want to see a game of basketball with these 14 players (5 vs 5, both sides have 2 reserves). That would be fun!

Tbh, Drummond has really regressed imo. There was a time when I really wanted him coz I thought he was quick on his feet and played with a high motor when he got minutes. He’s still big in the paint now but is slower and lazier than ever

[Fafnir]

I'm not really a big fan of Capela at all, but he has almost never been played off the court. He's pretty good at switching.
His free throws are bad, but we don't see hack-a-capela (or anybody else) a lot anymore.

It just happened to him in their last playoff series. Rockets were rolling with Tucker at C a lot and he had an awful impact rating when he was on the court. (Rockets weren't deep enough to play him too much less than they did)

Now he's had great series as well, against Minnesota is the one that pops to mind. But overall he's the sort of guy you go get when you have your two stars and need to fill in around them. C's aren't there, not unless AD/Kyrie commit. And if you have AD/Horford why bother with Capella?

[PhoSita]

If the Celts are trading for Capela I think you have to look at him as just an asset.  He's young and productive and under contract for a fair price long term.

Trading for Capela would mean no AD and probably no Kyrie.  In that case the name of the game is asset acquisition and development.


I think there are plenty of valid issues to raise re the relevance of a player with Capela's skillset for a team that wants to make a deep playoff run.

If the Celts are trading for him, they probably aren't going to be in a position to make a deep playoff run in the next couple of years.

[RJ87]

What am I missing with Capela? Hyper athletic center with a high motor but not much basketball skills? Imo playing beside James Harden (and CP3) made his career. Like how playing beside Lebron made Tristan thompson’s Career.

I guess CC would be fine though as maybe the 5th best player on your team. 4th at most. Any higher and your team’s probably not a contender.

I don't think we're after Capela. We already have a younger prospect with a similar skillset on a rookie deal. Capela doesn't move the needle enough unless the thought process is to reroute him to a 3rd team. I think the C's would sniff around Eric Gordon, though.

[Moranis]

What am I missing with Capela? Hyper athletic center with a high motor but not much basketball skills? Imo playing beside James Harden (and CP3) made his career. Like how playing beside Lebron made Tristan thompson’s Career.

I guess CC would be fine though as maybe the 5th best player on your team. 4th at most. Any higher and your team’s probably not a contender.

Thompson has been better without James.  I think Capela could be better without Harden for much of the same reasons that Thompson is better with James.  The floor opens up, there is more room to work, there are more opportunities, etc.

[Monkhouse]

I would be okay with trying to see if they want to trade us PJ Tucker, only problem is matching salaries.

[CFAN38]

Like... have y’all watched Capela play? He’s not impressive at all...and I also don’t understand why everyone is down and CP3. Who give a crap about his contract, with or without him we don’t have cap space anyway and when Kyrie leaves we need a PG ....

Have you? Capela isn't just a rim running big, he's a defensive anchor that can rebound, and make defenses aware of his presence on pick and rolls. It isn't like Harden just lobs it up, Capela is an expert at catching lobs.

I admit CP3 still has 1-2 good years left in him, but he would cripple our cap situation for years to come... But yes let's take the 34 year declining PG that is owed $159 million the next 4 years.... (And we will have ample cap space in about 2 years.)

As long as it's not your money, right?

You just described Theis and Williams if they got Minuets. I’m not advocating that we run out and get Chris Paul I’m just saying it’s at least something to be discussed if your only reasoning is his contract. Of course a cheaper version of CP3 Would be Rondo

Clint Capela is a 24 year old who finally got starting caliber minutes and averages 16.6 PPG, 12.7 RPG, and 1.4 APG...

Daniel Theis struggles to guard against most centers, he's only good at switching and helping on weak side.

Who knows if Williams will ever turn out as good as Capela, but eh what do I know...

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I am torn on the idea of trading for Capela. He is a productive young player but as others have pointed out his value diminishes in the playoffs. For the $$ I'm not sold that he is really a major PLAYOFF upgrade over Baynes. There is also the fact that Williams ceiling is to become Capela.

One trade that I would consider is the following

Hayward, #14, and R Williams (maybe include Baynes if he opts in)

for

Capela and Gordon

I don't love it but it clears up the Cs log jamb and assuming Irving leaves its gives the Cs a logical rotation

Starters

Capela
Horfrod
Tatum
Brown
Smart

Bench
Gordon
Semi
Theis (resign)

The Cs would likely look for another vet either scoring wing or scoring PG to bring off the bench (maybe IT).


I'm not sure how much value the Rockets would put into Hayward and this may not even be a viable option for them.

[ConnerHenry]

HOU is blowing things up. All of D'Antoni's assistants were let go, he was asked to take on Ty Lue as lead ass't and he just broke off his own contract extension talks

[SHAQATTACK]

CP3 to Lakers the Exact type of trade the Lakers would make given the FO and LeBron s history .   I m praying they take CP3 , its the. very thing that will sink their ship for next 2-3 years. 

They ve whined and moaned about not having CP3 fo ev errr , now they have a golden opportunity to have him and LeBron at same time ! ....come on Buss ....given the LA faithful what they deserve. 

[Phantom255x]

Personally, I would not mind adding Eric Gordon.

As for how to do it considering salaries, I have no idea 

[LilRip]

What am I missing with Capela? Hyper athletic center with a high motor but not much basketball skills? Imo playing beside James Harden (and CP3) made his career. Like how playing beside Lebron made Tristan thompson’s Career.

I guess CC would be fine though as maybe the 5th best player on your team. 4th at most. Any higher and your team’s probably not a contender.

Thompson has been better without James.  I think Capela could be better without Harden for much of the same reasons that Thompson is better with James.  The floor opens up, there is more room to work, there are more opportunities, etc.

I haven’t checked the stats but I’d assume once you lose a high usage player, the usage has to go somewhere. And that’s why stats would go up.

I don’t think it’s necessarily in any team’s best interest to just let Clint Capela or TT go to work as one of their top offensive options. If that is though, that team isn’t reaching the playoffs.

[Moranis]

What am I missing with Capela? Hyper athletic center with a high motor but not much basketball skills? Imo playing beside James Harden (and CP3) made his career. Like how playing beside Lebron made Tristan thompson’s Career.

I guess CC would be fine though as maybe the 5th best player on your team. 4th at most. Any higher and your team’s probably not a contender.

Thompson has been better without James.  I think Capela could be better without Harden for much of the same reasons that Thompson is better with James.  The floor opens up, there is more room to work, there are more opportunities, etc.

I haven’t checked the stats but I’d assume once you lose a high usage player, the usage has to go somewhere. And that’s why stats would go up.

I don’t think it’s necessarily in any team’s best interest to just let Clint Capela or TT go to work as one of their top offensive options. If that is though, that team isn’t reaching the playoffs.

who is suggesting that Capela would be a top offensive option?