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Re: Kelly as a Center.
« Reply #75 on: August 18, 2015, 11:44:34 PM »

Offline crimson_stallion

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What im starting to think the problem with KO is based on his skillset,(ball handling, stretching floor) A lot of his strengths aren't going to be able to be utilized much being the 3rd to 4th option on possessions (at times which is agreeable). His weaknesses are far more needed on this team then his strengths. Kinda like the the guy the coach goes " Heck of a player, I really liked him but..."  I personally think he's one of a kind. He either gets hungry and plays like he;s the best player on the floor or goes packing

I disagree, but each to their own!

I don't feel like there is anything that KO does especially poorly, that most other guys at his position do far better.

For example I'd say that KO's biggest weakness is his lack of rim protection, but then there are a LOT of players out there at both front court positions that have the same weakness, but still remain effective NBA players.

I think Dirk Nowitski and Kevin Love are two excellent examples of guys who share a lot of Olynyk's weaknesses, yet were still able to be dominant NBA players.

Olynyk obviously lacks Love's rebounding, and isn't as good a shooter as Dirk, but both of those guy rely on a combination of skill and high BBIQ to make up for what they somewhat lack in other areas of their game.  Both guys have managed to excel despite being poor defensive players, and having a more 'perimeter oriented' game.

I know Dirk was pretty mobile early in his career, but he was able to dominate well in to his 30s despite a lack of post game, lack of defensive ability, and lack of rebounding ability.

Love was a strong post player early in his career, but he's transformed into a (pretty much entirely) perimeter oriented player over his last couple of seasons and has shown little semblance of a post game.

Could see Olynyk having a long and solid career as a poor man's Dirk/Love.  Kind of like a higher IQ version of Andrei Bargnani.  I could see him developing in to a 17/8/3 guy and a solid 'team defender' by the time all is said and done.

I guess only time will tell, but in today's NBA I feel there will almost always be a spot on a team for a guy with KO's skill set - a 7 footer who can shoot, dribble and pass while also rebounding at a decent rate.

I guess his biggest weakness is his unique combination of mediocre foot-speed, mediocre physical strength and poor length.  There are other guys out there at the PF/C spots who lack one or the other, but there aren't many guys who lack all three.

I guess we'll just have to wait and see!

It's a shame KO is so lacking in the physical gifts, because he is such an incredibly intelligent and skilled basketball player.  If he had any one of (a) length, (b) strength or (c) agility he'd have star potential.
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Re: Kelly as a Center.
« Reply #76 on: August 19, 2015, 04:06:00 PM »

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I honestly don't know why you wouldn't play him at center. Positions only matter defensively anyway and his biggest weakness is lack of lateral quickness. Yes, he'd get outmuscled by most centers, but very few teams are running their offense through the post anyway.

You can adjust defensive assignments when we're against Demarcus Cousins or something. Otherwise, he should defend centers.

(All of this with the caveat that Brad Stevens probably knows better than I do, and if he wants to play Kelly at PF I'm clearly just wrong.)


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Re: Kelly as a Center.
« Reply #77 on: August 19, 2015, 04:42:38 PM »

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Could see Olynyk having a long and solid career as a poor man's Dirk/Love.  Kind of like a higher IQ version of Andrei Bargnani.  I could see him developing in to a 17/8/3 guy and a solid 'team defender' by the time all is said and done.

The problem is he thinks he has to pump fake all the time because he lacks lift.  Dirk and Love do not have that problem.   They also both like scoring sometimes it looks like Kelly does not.

Re: Kelly as a Center.
« Reply #78 on: August 19, 2015, 06:48:54 PM »

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He is 7 ft and way to timid to play in the middle . 

I don't see any foot work to speak of......he is a girl when it comes to actually putting a body on somebody ......he is not aggressive in the paint .

Sully ,  doesn't mind the contact , and that's why DA would be a fool to let him go , he is the only person big we have that can seriously rebound .....Lee and Amir withstanding ...they haven't taken the court as Celtics yet.

KO is not skinny or weak of body

He is too timid around the ruff NBA players ......somebody needs to tell him he has a much right to court space as anybody else .....stop being pushed around like a 6 ft guard.

Re: Kelly as a Center.
« Reply #79 on: August 19, 2015, 08:24:31 PM »

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Somewhere along the line, Kelly needed a good marshal arts instructor.

After this year, if Kelly's game just kind of remains the same, is it time to move on, on him?