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Re: I have a burning hate for Cousins
« Reply #60 on: February 21, 2015, 06:31:20 PM »

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He has infant-like tantrums at referees literally every single game, and then pulls dirty **** behind the play like he's some patron saint that's always wronged by the refs.

Such a ****

Hmmm sounds like KG.

KG is the complete opposite IMO. He used his trash talking to get into people's heads. He wasn't trying to fight everyone, and he never quit on plays.

Cousins doesn't get into anyone's head, he lets things get to his head if things go wrong. He will literally not run back on defense if he thinks he was fouled, he straight up gives up on plays on more than one occasion every game I have seen him play.

He is nowhere near the defender KG was either, Zellar abused him last night.

If we were 1 player away from contending, then I think it would make sense to roll the dice on him, like the Pistons did in 2004 with Rasheed.

At this point I don't want him on this team, until we have more developed talent, don't want his attitude rubbing off on the young guys. Plus it would take a bunch of brooklyn picks to get him. I would rather wait and see if they turn out to be high lottery picks

Re: I have a burning hate for Cousins
« Reply #61 on: February 21, 2015, 06:40:30 PM »

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On January 1, 2012, head coach Paul Westphal sent Cousins home from the Kings' home game against the New Orleans Hornets, saying that Cousins was "unwilling/unable to embrace traveling in the same direction as his team; it cannot be ignored indefinitely."

On November 11, 2012, the league suspended Cousins for two games without pay for confronting San Antonio Spurs color commentator Sean Elliott "in a hostile manner" after he criticized Cousins for attempting to bully Tim Duncan on the court. Cousins was apparently informed of Elliott's remarks after the game. He left the locker room and waited on the court for Elliott to finish his post-game show before confronting him.

On December 22, 2012, Cousins was suspended indefinitely from the Kings, who accused him of "unprofessional behavior and conduct detrimental to the team."

The Kings have ranked 20th, 28th, and 29th in points allowed per possession, respectively, during the last three seasons, and they’ve been worse with Cousins on the floor in all three, per NBA.com. Cousins is a stout post defender and voracious rebound gobbler, but he has struggled horribly at almost any part of defense that involves him moving around above the charge circle.

Re: I have a burning hate for Cousins
« Reply #62 on: February 21, 2015, 07:57:22 PM »

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Cousins is a great player, but he's certainly no KG.
Biggest difference is effort on the defensive end.

I can relate to those wondering why Cousins is frowning/upset/whining on literally every second play down the court.
He whines to the refs non stop and it takes his focus away from winning on the court.

Hopefully George Karl can help him grow up a bit and we can see this kid realize his full potential.

Last night was a particularly bad game for the bad side of Cousins attitude, but games like this are very common. Sometimes you just want to slap him for being so petty and immature- other nights you feel for him because the refs are just hammering him for no apparent reason.

The more and more I watch him though, the less I like him.
He displays many qualities of the common narcissistic, psychotic professional athlete. He needs an anti depressant- but I think a lot of it comes from playing on such a terrible team.

If you could put this guy with 2 other All Star players to stop all the double teams, he'd be pretty much unstoppable all over the court.
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Re: I have a burning hate for Cousins
« Reply #63 on: February 21, 2015, 08:04:28 PM »

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On January 1, 2012, head coach Paul Westphal sent Cousins home from the Kings' home game against the New Orleans Hornets, saying that Cousins was "unwilling/unable to embrace traveling in the same direction as his team; it cannot be ignored indefinitely."

On November 11, 2012, the league suspended Cousins for two games without pay for confronting San Antonio Spurs color commentator Sean Elliott "in a hostile manner" after he criticized Cousins for attempting to bully Tim Duncan on the court. Cousins was apparently informed of Elliott's remarks after the game. He left the locker room and waited on the court for Elliott to finish his post-game show before confronting him.

On December 22, 2012, Cousins was suspended indefinitely from the Kings, who accused him of "unprofessional behavior and conduct detrimental to the team."

The Kings have ranked 20th, 28th, and 29th in points allowed per possession, respectively, during the last three seasons, and they’ve been worse with Cousins on the floor in all three, per NBA.com. Cousins is a stout post defender and voracious rebound gobbler, but he has struggled horribly at almost any part of defense that involves him moving around above the charge circle.

You've already said this before. What does this prove? Answer: Nothing.

Re: I have a burning hate for Cousins
« Reply #64 on: February 21, 2015, 08:42:54 PM »

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On January 1, 2012, head coach Paul Westphal sent Cousins home from the Kings' home game against the New Orleans Hornets, saying that Cousins was "unwilling/unable to embrace traveling in the same direction as his team; it cannot be ignored indefinitely."

On November 11, 2012, the league suspended Cousins for two games without pay for confronting San Antonio Spurs color commentator Sean Elliott "in a hostile manner" after he criticized Cousins for attempting to bully Tim Duncan on the court. Cousins was apparently informed of Elliott's remarks after the game. He left the locker room and waited on the court for Elliott to finish his post-game show before confronting him.

On December 22, 2012, Cousins was suspended indefinitely from the Kings, who accused him of "unprofessional behavior and conduct detrimental to the team."

The Kings have ranked 20th, 28th, and 29th in points allowed per possession, respectively, during the last three seasons, and they’ve been worse with Cousins on the floor in all three, per NBA.com. Cousins is a stout post defender and voracious rebound gobbler, but he has struggled horribly at almost any part of defense that involves him moving around above the charge circle.

You've already said this before. What does this prove? Answer: Nothing.

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Re: I have a burning hate for Cousins
« Reply #65 on: February 22, 2015, 12:01:39 AM »

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When I saw this kid coming out of college I really wanted to root for him. I wanted to hope that the media did him wrong. After he was taken by the Kings I kept a watch on how he was doing. (About as well as an east coast Celtic fan can casually keep track of a west coast player that is, which is to say that I perked my ears up when there was news about him.) When he asked to be traded his rookie season I sort of grimaced, then for years I heard scattered reports about how he had matured.
When trade talk concerning the Celtics and Cousins started to heat up, I watched with increased interest, Cousins and his play against the Celtics in particular. Initally I was more for the trade than against it.
Then I saw Cousins play.
The man is a bully on both offense and defense. He takes every opportunity to push, pull and drag his man out of the key so he can get an offensive rebound. On the rare occasion that he actually gets all the way up the floor on defense, he is a sieve, content to let players drive and dunk on him at will.
I have never seen a player literally jog at half speed up the defensive end on EVERY play, no matter the situation. It is so obvious he doesn't want to play defense he should be embarrased.
When it comes to the only side of the floor he likes, offense, he will take that ball and dribble himself, ensuring he gets the offensive touch.
Yes, he can be a dirty player, but I think he's the laziest player I've ever seen on the court. I don't know why it's tolerated, but I would never want him for a Celtic. He is an example of a player you don't want to have.
Don't get me wrong, he's fun to watch. Watching Cousins is like watching a comedy with some drama thrown in. His temper tantrums and techs are a riot, and just about every time he's in the game the Celtics gained ground. But should he have the honor of wearing Celtic green? Hell no!
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Re: I have a burning hate for Cousins
« Reply #66 on: February 22, 2015, 01:34:42 AM »

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I watched DeAndre Jordan destroy Cousins tonight.
Jordan had 15 rebounds in 20 minutes.
Cousins only had 4 rebounds all night long.

Re: I have a burning hate for Cousins
« Reply #67 on: February 22, 2015, 03:01:20 AM »

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He has infant-like tantrums at referees literally every single game, and then pulls dirty **** behind the play like he's some patron saint that's always wronged by the refs.

Such a ****

Hmmm sounds like KG.

KG never was never this much of a constant crybaby about refs. KG is also twice the player cousins is as far as mental toughness and playing through adversity goes.


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Re: I have a burning hate for Cousins
« Reply #68 on: February 22, 2015, 10:30:47 AM »

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Sooner or later the Kings will realize Cousins is a cancer. They'll try to find a desperate trade partner. Lets not be that team.

Cousins plays the game mad all the time, no professional can play any sport mad all the time. It leads to emotional irrational decisions. Other players on his team see his irrational decisions and just begin to go through the motions of playing hard.

I also agree, with the statements below, he is good enough to make his team a .500 club by himself.

I don't think he's especially dirty but I do think that he is a whining, pouting 7ft little girl.

A girl who can put up 31/15.

He was one TO shy of a triple double!

If he could get his whining behavior under control, he wouldn't be looking at the playoffs from the out side every year. He puts up good numbers, but right now he's hurting his team more than helping every time he complains. The Refs made some bad calls on him because of his rep.
I agree. He's good enough to push his team to a 500 record all by himself. He just has to want it and stop with the whining.
 

Re: I have a burning hate for Cousins
« Reply #69 on: February 22, 2015, 10:47:16 AM »

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I also agree, with the statements below, he is good enough to make his team a .500 club by himself.

Since the 1980s, I'd say this statement applies to Bird, Magic, Duncan, Hakeem, Jordan, and maybe Lebron.  That might be an exaggeration, as well.  In other words, top-25 guys of all-time.

KG couldn't win without talent.  Patrick Ewing couldn't, David Robinson couldn't.  It's really, really hard to win half of your games with terrible teammates.


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Re: I have a burning hate for Cousins
« Reply #70 on: February 22, 2015, 11:46:56 AM »

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Cousins is good enough to make a team below .500 by himself.

No defense and a lot of turnovers and a knucklehead on top of that.

Jordan kicked his a.. last night.

Re: I have a burning hate for Cousins
« Reply #71 on: February 22, 2015, 12:11:24 PM »

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Cousins is good enough to make a team below .500 by himself.

No defense and a lot of turnovers and a knucklehead on top of that.

Jordan kicked his a.. last night.

But Demarcus would destroy him in a 7-game series....can DeAndre even stay in the games, yet? In the playoffs?

If/Once Demarcus Cousins reaches the playoffs his vast skillset will be on full display.

Re: I have a burning hate for Cousins
« Reply #72 on: February 22, 2015, 01:12:30 PM »

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Cousins is good enough to make a team below .500 by himself.

No defense and a lot of turnovers and a knucklehead on top of that.

Jordan kicked his a.. last night.

But Demarcus would destroy him in a 7-game series....can DeAndre even stay in the games, yet? In the playoffs?

If/Once Demarcus Cousins reaches the playoffs his vast skillset will be on full display.

I can hardly wait.

Re: I have a burning hate for Cousins
« Reply #73 on: February 22, 2015, 01:25:06 PM »

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Cousins is good enough to make a team below .500 by himself.

No defense and a lot of turnovers and a knucklehead on top of that.

Jordan kicked his a.. last night.

But Demarcus would destroy him in a 7-game series....can DeAndre even stay in the games, yet? In the playoffs?

If/Once Demarcus Cousins reaches the playoffs his vast skillset will be on full display.

I can hardly wait.

Career wise and this season, Cousins is outscoring and out-rebounding Jordan head to head.


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Re: I have a burning hate for Cousins
« Reply #74 on: February 22, 2015, 09:07:53 PM »

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People comparing KG and Cousins are totally off base. KG used his intensity to raise his teams level of play. Cousins sulks and loafs on defense.

He is a talented player, that is obvious. Is he a winner ? Time will tell.

Sacramento would ask for, and get, a kings ransom for a 24 year old All Star center. His cost would start with Marcus Smart, another blue chip young player, and probably at least 3 of our/Brooklyn unprotected first rounders. A 26 year old LeBron or Jordan is worth that kind of investment. Cousins is not.

Greg Monroe is 75% as good as Cousins. All he costs is money. I would rather have Monroe + the above mentioned assets instead of a player that plays when it suits him.

Cousins is the classic million dollar body, ten cent head type of player that may or may not ever put it all together. Sort of reminds me of my ex-wife.