How I feel about Paul Pierce heroics

[Tgro]

I was absolutely thrilled when Pierce hit that shot to tie the game and send it to overtime.  But up until that lucky -- yes, lucky -- shot, the team was on their way to losing, and they deserved it.  I've seen that Pierce iso offense kill this team in the 4th quarter too many times.  Everybody else here has, too, which is why I'm fairly shocked anybody still thinks it's great, even when it works.

How many times have we seen this team give up leads in the 4th because they go away from everything that was working so well for them up until that point?  The way this team plays in the 4th is so different from the way this team plays in the 3rd, and there's a reason they're much better in the latter than in the former.

That is the disturbing part about this game. It's sad when we can see statistically 2 very dominating stat lines and see countless plays that were phenomenal and still be upset for what transpired at the end of the 4th.

The sad part is you could see it happening the whole way. You could feel it coming. I think at one point we were up 15 in the 3rd and towards the end of it we started letting the Knicks back into the game. And then you get down to the last 5 minutes of the 4th and we're walking the ball up and the ball movement which had been superb the whole game is now non-existent. And suddenly we've allowed the Knicks to take the lead on us and only unbelievable heroics by the Captain bailed us out of a sure loss.

With the 2 stat lines these guys had and the way the team was playing in the 3rd, this game shouldn't have been even close in the last 5 minutes. I applaud Rondo and Pierce for the games they did have. Their efforts can win games for us countless times over but its too easy to be frustrated with the lapses that allow teams that are clearly beaten to very nearly and even should have beaten us in the end.

Its hard to appreciate what these guys accomplished today. I love what they did but it scares you to see this happen multiple times throughout the season. I really have hated the 2nd and 4th quarters with this team this season.

[SHAQATTACK]

I thought this was a very good win angainst a now dangereous Knick team. They are a much better team than pre -Lin

I'm happy for our team... good to see them win a close game againt a tuff opponent.

[Carhole]

The last shot was great, but it was a bailout, an it wasn't a good shot.

Well, it was the best shot we had with 5 seconds on the clock -- what are you going to do?

Oh, I don't know, run any of a number of plays Doc has ever drawn up to create an open shot . . . one that doesn't involve Pierce predictably hoisting a shot over 3 defenders at the 3 pt line?

The only reason that play was even necessary to force OT is that the team got totally bogged down in the 4th quarter, with almost no ball movement whatsoever.

Oh you mean when Rondo was 0-6 with 4 missed layups off of great ball movement/smart passes off of mismatches, and KG missed a couple quality looks for him. The ball movement was not bad, in fact Hubie pointed out after a miss, just how good the ball movement was and that you have to take those shots.

Playing a two man game with KG and Paul exchanging post-ups every trip down the floor killed momentum and made the team far easier to defend.

How did it kill the flow? Going in the post kills the flow? It sure looked good when rondo was standing at the rim with a layup. He missed 3 bunnies, the movement was fine, you cant get better shots than that

[Carhole]

I am sorry, you didnt get the memo, Pierce bogged us down all fourth quarter and only Rondo's basketball IQ and managing of the team got us back on track.

But seriously, could have done better on the shot with 30 seconds left (not time for a heat check) but boy did he work his mismatches late in the 4th and that final 3 was a tough clutch shot. Gotta to love the captain

/s  

All hail Lord Rondo. Although he was nowhere to be found finals minutes of the 4th.  Forget Pierce heroics 7points final 90seconds. All glory goes to Rondo statpadding.

  Rondo does something that's never been done in nba history, Paul scores 30+ points and hits a huge three, and half the board is trying to rip apart the game one of them had to support the other. Sad.

Achieving an interesting statistical anomaly is great but it really has no bearing on how much someone effected the outcome of a game. They were both extremely important to the win today.

Get over the first post, it was a joke from other threads, that obviously other people understood.

You have to realize that everything rondo does gets blown WAY out of proportion both positively and negatively on this site 

[Carhole]

In fact bballtim, I would have preferred no 2nd time in history of nba achievement and he had gone 4 of 6 in the 4th instead of 0-6 and we just beat the knicks by double digits....

Sometimes, I get the feeling you would prefer he just keep doing random things that are fun facts to put on the cap of a snapple bottle

[dark_lord]

good lord....it was a fun game that we won. pierce and rondo put up some great numbers and made memorable plays.

cant people just enjoy it?! 

Never. Which is why this forum has lost its luster. Its no longer fun. People are just miserable and will find ANYTHING to complain about.

i hear ya

[ImShakHeIsShaq]

In fact bballtim, I would have preferred no 2nd time in history of nba achievement and he had gone 4 of 6 in the 4th instead of 0-6 and we just beat the knicks by double digits....

Sometimes, I get the feeling you would prefer he just keep doing random things that are fun facts to put on the cap of a snapple bottle

Let's not do this... WE WON but... RR was 0-6 in 4th...


WE WON PEOPLE!!!

[dark_lord]

In fact bballtim, I would have preferred no 2nd time in history of nba achievement and he had gone 4 of 6 in the 4th instead of 0-6 and we just beat the knicks by double digits....

Sometimes, I get the feeling you would prefer he just keep doing random things that are fun facts to put on the cap of a snapple bottle

Let's not do this... WE WON but... RR was 0-6 in 4th...


WE WON PEOPLE!!!

tp

[Greenbean]

good lord....it was a fun game that we won. pierce and rondo put up some great numbers and made memorable plays.

cant people just enjoy it?! 

Never. Which is why this forum has lost its luster. Its no longer fun. People are just miserable and will find ANYTHING to complain about.

i hear ya

Yeah it's just a really uncomfortable time for celtics fans.

And that's the best way I can describe it...uncomfortable.

Everyone is a anxious about what it to come in the next couple of years and no one has a really good answer on how Ainge is going to build the next championship contender.

Personally, I have  lowered my expectations and I'm just enjoying watching NBA basketball...because it is fun to watch.

If the Celtics make a great run, Ill be thrilled, if they dont, well Ill still watch.

Unfortunately, not everyone is as relaxed about the Celtics in this forum right now which is why I am posting in here infrequently.

[OmarSekou]

good lord....it was a fun game that we won. pierce and rondo put up some great numbers and made memorable plays.

cant people just enjoy it?! 

Never. Which is why this forum has lost its luster. Its no longer fun. People are just miserable and will find ANYTHING to complain about.

i hear ya

Yeah it's just a really uncomfortable time for celtics fans.

And that's the best way I can describe it...uncomfortable.

Everyone is a anxious about what it to come in the next couple of years and no one has a really good answer on how Ainge is going to build the next championship contender.

Personally, I have  lowered my expectations and I'm just enjoying watching NBA basketball...because it is fun to watch.

If the Celtics make a great run, Ill be thrilled, if they dont, well Ill still watch.

Unfortunately, not everyone is as relaxed about the Celtics in this forum right now which is why I am posting in here infrequently.

The negativity on this board s@#$s. Vitali Potopenko isn't walking through that door. Dino Radja isn't walking through that door. Sherman Douglas isn't walking through that door.

Sometimes I feel like the only thing that could save us is Gerald vs. Dee Brown in a dunk off. And Rondo's too lazy to invent a time machine so we can bring a prime Dee Brown to do it.

Seriously though. I feel like I can't celebrate the Celtics because every time I'm on here I'm defending a player or a coach from criticism. It doesn't even matter if we win. I just like to think everyone's still grieving about the Pats.

[OmarSekou]

Pierce's heroics are magic. I don't want to prove that there's a trick behind the magic and that it's not real. I just want to sit back and go, "Wow, that's amazing."

"It wasn't the right shot, he had been playing too much iso, etc."

Everyone's become an analyst. There are a lot more back seat coaches and GMs, and not enough fans. I'm guilty of that sometimes, but at the end of the day I know I can't run a team, coach a team, or play remotely close to an NBA level. I just want to sit back and be entertained and cross my fingers that we win.

Pierce has been able to entertain me and win for a long time, and he keeps on doing it. He's consistently amazing. That's how I feel.

[Greenbean]

Pierce's heroics are magic. I don't want to prove that there's a trick behind the magic and that it's not real. I just want to sit back and go, "Wow, that's amazing."

"It wasn't the right shot, he had been playing too much iso, etc."

Everyone's become an analyst. There are a lot more back seat coaches and GMs, and not enough fans. I'm guilty of that sometimes, but at the end of the day I know I can't run a team, coach a team, or play remotely close to an NBA level. I just want to sit back and be entertained and cross my fingers that we win.

Pierce has been able to entertain me and win for a long time, and he keeps on doing it. He's consistently amazing. That's how I feel.

Well said...TP