Chris Brousard - "CP3 won't sign an extension with the c's"

[BballTim]

 Yes, for all the talk about free throws and jump shots, staying healthy in the playoffs has been a big problem for him as well.

I just think that when Rondo is at his best, his style of play is both dominant and unsustainable, and that's the biggest problem.  In order for Rondo to play to his full potential he needs to totally sacrifice himself.  That explains his maddening inconsistency at least as much as his purported moodiness.

I know this is beating the brittle skeleton of a long-dead horse at this point, but I think that the lack of sustainability is due in large part to Rondo's poor jumpshot.  In order to score -- and sometimes even to create shots for teammates -- he has to sacrifice himself.  He can't have a big impact while playing a low-impact style.

  He clearly had a big impact while playing a low-impact style for much of last year. He was dominating games while hardly shooting the ball.

His ability to do that, though, goes back, i think, to the ability of his teammates to score.  Will rondo be able to dominate with low impact when he has to carry a much heavier scoring burden? Im inclined to think not.

  I don't think the plan is to put Rondo on the court with 4 players that can't score, any more than it would be to put Paul on the court with players that can't score. For starters, you'd have about $8M more to spend with Rondo than with Paul, a player you could get for that money would probably more than make up for any talent difference between the two point guards.

[CDawg834]

Even if CP3 won't sign an extension here, I say you still go for it:  Trade Rondo, Jermaine O'Neal, and a future pick for Paul (salaries match up).  Make one last run at the title and make an effort to sign Paul long-term.  If he leaves in the summer, so be it...C's are gonna have to blow it up within 1-2 years anyway.  From the sounds of things, there's a few people in the organization who would not be sad to see Rondo go.

[Celtics4ever]

I really don't trust Donny as a source.  He was never a Celtic.  I rather see him go to be honest.

[WeMadeIt17]

I think this Cp3 wont sign an ext. is kinda B.S. if he really wanted to play with Dwight (which I think he is starting to understand he would be better with Dwight) his best chance to play with him would be Boston. You play with us for a season and possibly get a Ring from it. and then you compete for titles for years to come with Dwight and other pieces that would be happy to come and play with you. I mean trust me going to the Knicks wouldn't be a bad thing but they wont have the money to pay Dwight and I think some of this might be registering in Chris' head.

[Moranis]

I think this Cp3 wont sign an ext. is kinda B.S. if he really wanted to play with Dwight (which I think he is starting to understand he would be better with Dwight) his best chance to play with him would be Boston. You play with us for a season and possibly get a Ring from it. and then you compete for titles for years to come with Dwight and other pieces that would be happy to come and play with you. I mean trust me going to the Knicks wouldn't be a bad thing but they wont have the money to pay Dwight and I think some of this might be registering in Chris' head.

I actually think Orlando is a much more viable location for a Dwight/CP3 pairing then Boston.  If Orlando uses the amnesty on Dwight, it wouldn't take a whole lot else for it to dump enough salary to have the cap space.

Orlando could also send a fairly decent package to New Orleans i.e. Nelson, Redick, Bass, Anderson, 1st rounders and could probably also take on some additional New Orleans salary if it included all of them.  Then they just cut Arenas.

[Fafnir]

I think this Cp3 wont sign an ext. is kinda B.S. if he really wanted to play with Dwight (which I think he is starting to understand he would be better with Dwight) his best chance to play with him would be Boston. You play with us for a season and possibly get a Ring from it. and then you compete for titles for years to come with Dwight and other pieces that would be happy to come and play with you. I mean trust me going to the Knicks wouldn't be a bad thing but they wont have the money to pay Dwight and I think some of this might be registering in Chris' head.

I actually think Orlando is a much more viable location for a Dwight/CP3 pairing then Boston.  If Orlando uses the amnesty on Dwight, it wouldn't take a whole lot else for it to dump enough salary to have the cap space.

Orlando could also send a fairly decent package to New Orleans i.e. Nelson, Redick, Bass, Anderson, 1st rounders and could probably also take on some additional New Orleans salary if it included all of them.  Then they just cut Arenas.

Uses its amnesty on Dwight? What? I'm assuming you mean Arenas? He makes more than Howard after all. Sadly their cap situation is fairly horrible, especially given Turk and Howard's cap hold.

Care to lay out how Orlando would create such cap room?

Now trading for CP3, that's possible though unlikely.

[Celtics18]

 Yes, for all the talk about free throws and jump shots, staying healthy in the playoffs has been a big problem for him as well.

I just think that when Rondo is at his best, his style of play is both dominant and unsustainable, and that's the biggest problem.  In order for Rondo to play to his full potential he needs to totally sacrifice himself.  That explains his maddening inconsistency at least as much as his purported moodiness.

I know this is beating the brittle skeleton of a long-dead horse at this point, but I think that the lack of sustainability is due in large part to Rondo's poor jumpshot.  In order to score -- and sometimes even to create shots for teammates -- he has to sacrifice himself.  He can't have a big impact while playing a low-impact style.

That's why I think it's fair to wonder, even if Rondo has two pristine knees and CP3 only has one, if CP3's game will actually age much better than Rondo's.

You make a good point here.  However, I don't see Chris Paul forced to play a low impact style making a higher impact than Rajon Rondo able to play a high impact style. 

Yes, we have to hope for good health from Rondo, but that's always the case with athletes.  Rondo battled plantar fasciitis last season while Paul was recovering from knee surgery.  There's, of course, a chance that Rondo will never fully recover from suffering from stinging pain in his feet, but history has shown that NBA players have a much higher rate of full recovery from this injury than getting reconstructed knees back to where they were.

Basically, in short, if we are tying up $20 million a year over the next four or five years for Chris Paul, I don't want him to turn out to be Chauncey Billups, a good, solid, competitive, smart guard with a jump shot who is not able to use his explosiveness on both ends of the floor to really create havoc. If that's the player we are getting, he'll undoubtedly be a good to great guard in this league a la the aforementioned Chauncey Billups, but he won't be the game changing, impact guy that everyone is expecting.

I'd rather take my chances that Rondo can be healthy and high impact for the foreseeable future.  There are risks either way, but when are there not? 

[Moranis]

I think this Cp3 wont sign an ext. is kinda B.S. if he really wanted to play with Dwight (which I think he is starting to understand he would be better with Dwight) his best chance to play with him would be Boston. You play with us for a season and possibly get a Ring from it. and then you compete for titles for years to come with Dwight and other pieces that would be happy to come and play with you. I mean trust me going to the Knicks wouldn't be a bad thing but they wont have the money to pay Dwight and I think some of this might be registering in Chris' head.

I actually think Orlando is a much more viable location for a Dwight/CP3 pairing then Boston.  If Orlando uses the amnesty on Dwight, it wouldn't take a whole lot else for it to dump enough salary to have the cap space.

Orlando could also send a fairly decent package to New Orleans i.e. Nelson, Redick, Bass, Anderson, 1st rounders and could probably also take on some additional New Orleans salary if it included all of them.  Then they just cut Arenas.

Uses its amnesty on Dwight? What? I'm assuming you mean Arenas? He makes more than Howard after all. Sadly their cap situation is fairly horrible, especially given Turk and Howard's cap hold.

Care to lay out how Orlando would create such cap room?

Now trading for CP3, that's possible though unlikely.

yeah I meant Arenas, as to how they do it, it is laid out quite well in the thread I created on the topic.  It actually wouldn't be that difficult with the amnesty and the stretch clause.