Phil Jackson isn't even in the same class as Red

[More Banners]

Comparing across era's is probably not fair to anyone, either Red or Phil.  Red is the real McCoy, and will always be the standard by which "great" coaches are measured.  It would be an honor to be compared with him, and I think Phil has come to that point of being honored to be compared, but then I think it becomes less about "who is better" than about celebrating the amazing achievements of two of the game's greats.  And Phil definitely is one of the greats, though the only one I'd kick in the knee.

We can do the same (and do do the same) with players:  Kobe/MJ is a big one, and the same thing is happening:  people are spending less time arguing for who is better, and more appreciating the talent and achievements of the younger player.

It's pointess to compare across the ages; let's just enjoy the game and the greats of this era while we can.  It's a great game.

[Prof. Clutch]

Phil Jackson's teams have won more titles than any other team. He has done it in an expanded NBA, where you currently have to beat out 29 other teams. Red only had to beat out 7 other teams. Granted, Red did everything, from making hotel reservations to coaching the team. He was a classic, but one can't dismiss 11-9.

This works both ways though...30 teams could also signify an easier road to a championship since it waters down the competition in the league.

More to the point of this thread though, everyone will consider Phil to be one of the greats by his careers end, but Red will always be the best. 

2 playoff series is a lot easier then 4.

Good point, TP.  And winning 8 championships consecutively is much more difficult than winning 3 in a row and on and on.  As More Banners said above me, in many ways it's difficult to compare the two since each era had its own unique challenges and difficulties.

[Eja117]

Wow Eja, way to break out an antique, I remember this thread.  It's almost two years old...seriously Brickowski has a post on the second page and I haven't seen his Grand mama avatar in over a year.

That told me instantly how old this was.

I just thought it was a funny quote so I used search to find Phil Jackson and thought this would be good

[Moranis]

Phil Jackson's teams have won more titles than any other team. He has done it in an expanded NBA, where you currently have to beat out 29 other teams. Red only had to beat out 7 other teams. Granted, Red did everything, from making hotel reservations to coaching the team. He was a classic, but one can't dismiss 11-9.

This works both ways though...30 teams could also signify an easier road to a championship since it waters down the competition in the league.

More to the point of this thread though, everyone will consider Phil to be one of the greats by his careers end, but Red will always be the best. 

2 playoff series is a lot easier then 4.

Good point, TP.  And winning 8 championships consecutively is much more difficult than winning 3 in a row and on and on.  As More Banners said above me, in many ways it's difficult to compare the two since each era had its own unique challenges and difficulties.

Sure and if Bill decided to retire after the first 3 championships and then decide to unretire a year and a half later, I think Red would only have two sets of three peats instead of 8 in a row.  I know no one knows what the Bulls would have been had MJ not retired the first time, but I don't think I'm going out on a limb when I say they would have been the prohibitive favorites in the two years Houston won titles.

[mgent]

Hahahahahahahahaha who ever said he was?