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Re: Bill Simmons-Rondo for Paul trade idea
« Reply #135 on: July 23, 2010, 06:45:46 AM »

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The only way the trade can happen is this way (without Okafor and adding Shrek):

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=275w45r

Totally unrealistic -- West is one of their best assets, cheap on short money.

Look, the Hornets are not trading Paul without Okefor. There is NO WAY they trade Paul without him. And in order for the Cs to trade for Paul with Okefor in tow is if they give up a member of the big 3, which is complicated and otherwise unlikely. Meanwhile, the Hornets do have a back up PG they like very much.

So -- news flash team Csblog -- this deal is not happening with the Celtics.
there needs to be another team involved.  Perhaps Cleveland.

Bos Trades - Sheed, Rondo, Davis
Bos Receives - Paul

Ind Trades - Granger, Foster
Ind Receives - Rondo, Okafor

NO trades - Okafor, Paul
NO receives - Sheed, Granger, Davis, Foster

Other pieces can be traded here and there as well as draft picks.  I think this gets done what the teams would need done.  Solid up and coming SF to N.O. (on a long term deal), good solid role player on short term deal in Davis, and huge salary reduction in swapping Okafor for sheed and foster.  C's get an upgrade at PG for essentially a guy retiring and a bench player.  Indiana gets a solid young PG on a long term deal and a defensive minded still relatively young center. 

  And our backup bigs would be Erden and a re-signed Scal?
nah you gotta get someone else from F.A., which we need to do anyway, since all we have is Davis until Perkins comes back.
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Re: Bill Simmons-Rondo for Paul trade idea
« Reply #136 on: July 23, 2010, 07:12:28 AM »

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1st Rondo has proven the past two of the three years he can lead a team to the finals. Perkins has done a great job also to help the Celtics to the finals.

CP to me is quitter just like Lebron. Getting the ring is important but do it the right now instead of being a whinny b@#

He also disrespects his teammates or ex teammates. Guys who you shared a bond together and now turn your back on (by stating to need to on a better team so you can have a chance to win a ring).

Anyways Danny would be tempted if the offer was presented to him. And for NO Rondo would definitely be a pg they can accept in return. Its a good thought but won't happen


When Rondo gets upset when the C's finally rebuild in two years we'll see how different he is.

Rondo has played for a contender since his second year, Paul has only had one team that went far and then they immediately backslid.

Where did this concept come from concerning Rondo? 
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Re: Bill Simmons-Rondo for Paul trade idea
« Reply #137 on: July 23, 2010, 07:24:15 AM »

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1st Rondo has proven the past two of the three years he can lead a team to the finals. Perkins has done a great job also to help the Celtics to the finals.

CP to me is quitter just like Lebron. Getting the ring is important but do it the right now instead of being a whinny b@#

He also disrespects his teammates or ex teammates. Guys who you shared a bond together and now turn your back on (by stating to need to on a better team so you can have a chance to win a ring).

Anyways Danny would be tempted if the offer was presented to him. And for NO Rondo would definitely be a pg they can accept in return. Its a good thought but won't happen


When Rondo gets upset when the C's finally rebuild in two years we'll see how different he is.

Rondo has played for a contender since his second year, Paul has only had one team that went far and then they immediately backslid.

Where did this concept come from concerning Rondo? 
No great player wants to be in a rebuilding situation.

Re: Bill Simmons-Rondo for Paul trade idea
« Reply #138 on: July 23, 2010, 09:26:32 AM »

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By the way, to my earlier point, this in simmons mailbag today....

Q: In a few of your July 21 tweets you tweeted how the Celts could trade Rondo and a few other pieces for CP3 and possibly Emeka Okafor. My question is: Are you on drugs? The reason New Orleans would jump on that is because they know (and so does everyone else who has sense) that Paul is the fourth-best point guard in the league, behind Deron Williams (No. 3), Rondo (No. 2), and LeBron (No. 1), assuming of course that LBJ does in fact slide into the Magic Johnson-esque point-forward role.
-- Steven, Jupiter, Fla.



SG: Apparently I was on drugs: In a rare error for the Picasso of the Trade Machine (I blame a bad batch of coffee), I forgot that Rondo was a base-year compensation guy thanks to last season's extension, making it impossible cap-wise for Boston to deal him without a third team getting involved. And we all know menage-a-trades never work in the NBA. I do think Boston would have considered it because of what happened in the 2010 Finals (when Kobe played eight feet off Rondo in Game 7 and grabbed 15 rebounds because of it), because of Paul's brilliance in 2008 and 2009 (when he slapped together the best back-to-back statistical seasons by any point guard since Oscar Robertson), and because Paul would solve their crunch-time woes. We'll never know, though.



One more note: New Orleans can't trade Paul unless it dumps Okafor's contract (four years and $52 million remaining) and maybe even every other bad contract it has (one year of Peja Stojakovic for $14.3 million; two years of James Posey for $13 million). That rules out every suitor except Oklahoma City (this trade plus two No. 1 picks, which hinges on Paul agreeing to play for another small-market team); Orlando (who couldn't give New Orleans a blue-chipper, but could take back every bad contract with this trade); Portland (this trade plus picks, money and Greg Oden's cell phone); Houston (this trade plus New York's pick in 2011 or 2012 and $3 million, with the caveat that New Orleans buys out Yao and he re-signs with Houston); Dallas (two deals: Tyson Chandler for Okafor and $3 million, then this deal with Dallas throwing in another $3 million); and New York (this trade plus $3 million).



So if they're really trading him -- and by the way, he wanted out five weeks ago -- we're about to find out what's important to Mr. Paul. If he wants to win titles, he pushes for Oklahoma City or Orlando. If he wants to be famous in a big market, play D'Antoni Ball and throw alley-oops to Amare Stoudemire as MSG goes bonkers, he pushes for New York. Either way, I think he's gone.



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