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Re: Joeball - What's the Difference?
« Reply #30 on: December 07, 2022, 12:36:30 PM »

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His decision to shoot more 3s is a huge difference.  It's one helluva weapon when the team shoots 40.2% and your top four bench players all shoot at least 43%.  In addition, the FG% for the team is 49.4% along with FT% being 84.4%.  Bottom line is it's easy to be good when you have players that make a high percentage of their shots and know how to play good defense (credit Ime).

That percentage is high because the ball movement is vastly improved though. The team has also done a much better job of cutting without the ball and keeping the defenses spread out to create space.

Playing with a much faster pace has also created more open looks.

I agree.
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Re: Joeball - What's the Difference?
« Reply #31 on: December 07, 2022, 12:43:17 PM »

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His decision to shoot more 3s is a huge difference.  It's one helluva weapon when the team shoots 40.2% and your top four bench players all shoot at least 43%.  In addition, the FG% for the team is 49.4% along with FT% being 84.4%.  Bottom line is it's easy to be good when you have players that make a high percentage of their shots and know how to play good defense (credit Ime).

That percentage is high because the ball movement is vastly improved though. The team has also done a much better job of cutting without the ball and keeping the defenses spread out to create space.

Playing with a much faster pace has also created more open looks.

I agree.

Same. And the players have (mostly) bought in. There’s been a little regression the past few games, hopefully a glitch that passes quickly.

Re: Joeball - What's the Difference?
« Reply #32 on: December 07, 2022, 12:49:56 PM »

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His decision to shoot more 3s is a huge difference.  It's one helluva weapon when the team shoots 40.2% and your top four bench players all shoot at least 43%.  In addition, the FG% for the team is 49.4% along with FT% being 84.4%.  Bottom line is it's easy to be good when you have players that make a high percentage of their shots and know how to play good defense (credit Ime).

That percentage is high because the ball movement is vastly improved though. The team has also done a much better job of cutting without the ball and keeping the defenses spread out to create space.

Playing with a much faster pace has also created more open looks.

I agree.

Same. And the players have (mostly) bought in. There’s been a little regression the past few games, hopefully a glitch that passes quickly.

Maybe they are just antsy thinking about Rob rejoining them and turning the defense around.
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Re: Joeball - What's the Difference?
« Reply #33 on: December 07, 2022, 01:29:31 PM »

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Agree about Smart. The guy was mired in a stubborn style of play for years, and somehow has improved much more at 27 and 28 than he did his entire prior career. I admit I had given up on him.

Essentially you have White and Brogdon instead of Shroder and Richardson (and to a lesser extent, Nesmith and Langford). Combined with the extra motion, you have high I.Q. ball movement and guys who play optimally - elite 3 pt shooting and drive and kick instead of ball pounding and midrange shooting. A lot of mediocre offense out.

And none of those guys last year gave us ball handling under pressure at the end of games. Now we have three guards you can trust with the ball.
When it comes to being fouled, the whole team.
Only Harford, Hauser and Pritchard are less than 80%. And I'd trust any of them to make the Free Trows at the end.

Some peculiar #s there.

Pritchard went 21 for 21 from the line last season, but only 5 of 8 this yr.

Horford has only taken 8 FTs 1/3rd of the way through the season, he took almost 100 a year ago.

Re: Joeball - What's the Difference?
« Reply #34 on: December 07, 2022, 01:30:36 PM »

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Tatum and Brown struggled at the rim earlier in their careers, both are vastly improved. Tatum is among the league's best at finishing and at drawing fouls.

Re: Joeball - What's the Difference?
« Reply #35 on: December 07, 2022, 03:00:27 PM »

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I definitely think the team needs to work on their new offense of moving without the ball vs very physical teams and teams that focus on ball denial(front guarding). Think this is the problem that forces the iso ball offense to show back up.

Knowing that this is very much the defense to expect playoff time I don't want C's to give up so easily. Felt the Nets game was the worst and best case scenario. As the C's offense regressed from tip but went back to Joe's system to put the game out of reach.

I feel a lot is going to be on Brown and JT's shoulders. Either one can get hot and become very aggressive. They need to sprinkle in others, and at the same time others need to keep movement to force a easy look from the Jays. That may simply be running hard on the breaks.

Brown looks to be in ast mode right now after putting up a few games in a row of big points. Let's help him get that figure up. If he makes more of a playmaking step this year I think it's a done deal for a chip (assuming team is healthy). There will be just too many threats to create to ever see a stagnant offense here.

Re: Joeball - What's the Difference?
« Reply #36 on: December 09, 2022, 12:43:52 PM »

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Tatum and Brown struggled at the rim earlier in their careers, both are vastly improved. Tatum is among the league's best at finishing and at drawing fouls.

In keeping with the theme of the thread, Jaylen has significantly upped the number of drives compared to last season. He's taking a whopping 35% more shots at the rim than last season.

And you're right about Tatum, too. Like Brown, he's upped his attempts at the rim; over 10% more attempts in his case. Maybe as significant, he's upped his Free Throw Rate from .300 to a truly golden .390.

'I was proud of Marcus Smart. He did a great job of keeping us together. He might not get credit for this game, but the pace that he played at, and his playcalling, some of the plays that he called were great. We obviously have to rely on him, so I’m definitely looking forward to Marcus leading this team in that role.' - Jaylen Brown, January 2021

Re: Joeball - What's the Difference?
« Reply #37 on: December 09, 2022, 01:17:45 PM »

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Joe admits to still learning to be THE coach , as opposed to assistant, pressure decision making ,  I think he is doing a standup job considering everything. Udoka was had way more nba experience under his belt .  Being assistant to pop is gonna be no picnic,  I doubt anybody is asleep at the wheel sitting beside Pip.

He seems focused and flexible to learn and take advise ….that’s huge right there.

Re: Joeball - What's the Difference?
« Reply #38 on: December 09, 2022, 06:39:25 PM »

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His decision to shoot more 3s is a huge difference.  It's one helluva weapon when the team shoots 40.2% and your top four bench players all shoot at least 43%.  In addition, the FG% for the team is 49.4% along with FT% being 84.4%.  Bottom line is it's easy to be good when you have players that make a high percentage of their shots and know how to play good defense (credit Ime).

That percentage is high because the ball movement is vastly improved though. The team has also done a much better job of cutting without the ball and keeping the defenses spread out to create space.

Playing with a much faster pace has also created more open looks.

I agree.

Same. And the players have (mostly) bought in. There’s been a little regression the past few games, hopefully a glitch that passes quickly.

Maybe they are just antsy thinking about Rob rejoining them and turning the defense around.

It’s good to see the defense ramping up in the last couple of weeks.
'I was proud of Marcus Smart. He did a great job of keeping us together. He might not get credit for this game, but the pace that he played at, and his playcalling, some of the plays that he called were great. We obviously have to rely on him, so I’m definitely looking forward to Marcus leading this team in that role.' - Jaylen Brown, January 2021