Don't trade Romeo 0r Aaron Nesmith

[Jvalin]

It all depends on what we get back. Imo, no one on our roster should be completely untouchable. Not even Tatum (and I'm super high on Tatum).

[gouki88]

For anyone saying we have "too many" young guys, just look at the Suns roster

Cam Johnson - 2nd year
Deandre Ayton - 2nd year
Mikael Bridges - 3rd year
Jalen Smith - 1st year
Torey Craig - 4th year (he's an already 30 but doesn't have much experience in the league)

Booker may have been played long enough in the league but let's not forget he's only 24 too.

Overpaying for "proven" veterans proved fatal for some teams. I bet if Kawhi stick with the Clippers roster that took the Warriors to 6 games, they would go further in the playoffs because the chemistry of that team were really good. It's always good to mix young players with veterans. Nesmith and Langford got some really good experience guarding top players in the league this season.

The Suns traded for CP3 because  they had nothing to lose. The players who were traded for him failed to reach the playoffs. Even if the CP3 acquisition had failed, they will probably just miss the playoffs again.

The end of bench young guys are expendable. But if we want to compete, we need to keep those two instead of overpaying vets.

Johnson and Bridges were picks 11 and 10 respectively and were really quite old for college players - they're both older than JT, for example.
Ayton was the #1 pick and is a physical abnormality.
Jalen Smith simply does not play, not sure why he's listed. He's played 17 minutes these playoffs.
Torrey Craig is a bit silly to list here. I doubt many would group Theis with our youth when he was here.
They have picked NBA ready guys a lot over the last few seasons.

The Suns have also brought in guys like CP3, Crowder, Saric, Kaminsky and E'Twaun Moore over the last two years to shore up holes in their roster. I don't think anyone wants us to abandon all our youth, but we have struggled for the balance between young guys and productive bench players, furthered by how speculative some of our picks have been.

I don't know why it is silly to include Craig and Smith while you mention guys like Kaminsky, Moore and others who are barely even in the rotation too. Theis was part of our future. May not be spring chicken but he's no senior citizen either.

Draft positions don't mean much outside the top 10. Sure, there were guys like Klay, Kawhi, etc. But most players there are rotational players at best and out of the league early at worst. If both Nesmith and Langford were playing for another team and shine, we'd be hearing about how Danny missed those guys. It's not the lack of talent, but rather lack of opportunity that these young prospects don't meet your expecations.

Lol, nice strawman.

You're using Torrey Craig, who was aged 27 in his rookie year, as an example of a "young guy" contributing. It's just lying.

[Hoopvortex]

For anyone saying we have "too many" young guys, just look at the Suns roster

Cam Johnson - 2nd year
Deandre Ayton - 2nd year
Mikael Bridges - 3rd year
Jalen Smith - 1st year
Torey Craig - 4th year (he's an already 30 but doesn't have much experience in the league)

Booker may have been played long enough in the league but let's not forget he's only 24 too.

Overpaying for "proven" veterans proved fatal for some teams. I bet if Kawhi stick with the Clippers roster that took the Warriors to 6 games, they would go further in the playoffs because the chemistry of that team were really good. It's always good to mix young players with veterans. Nesmith and Langford got some really good experience guarding top players in the league this season.

The Suns traded for CP3 because  they had nothing to lose. The players who were traded for him failed to reach the playoffs. Even if the CP3 acquisition had failed, they will probably just miss the playoffs again.

The end of bench young guys are expendable. But if we want to compete, we need to keep those two instead of overpaying vets.

Johnson and Bridges were picks 11 and 10 respectively and were really quite old for college players - they're both older than JT, for example.
Ayton was the #1 pick and is a physical abnormality.
Jalen Smith simply does not play, not sure why he's listed. He's played 17 minutes these playoffs.
Torrey Craig is a bit silly to list here. I doubt many would group Theis with our youth when he was here.
They have picked NBA ready guys a lot over the last few seasons.

The Suns have also brought in guys like CP3, Crowder, Saric, Kaminsky and E'Twaun Moore over the last two years to shore up holes in their roster. I don't think anyone wants us to abandon all our youth, but we have struggled for the balance between young guys and productive bench players, furthered by how speculative some of our picks have been.

I don't know why it is silly to include Craig and Smith while you mention guys like Kaminsky, Moore and others who are barely even in the rotation too. Theis was part of our future. May not be spring chicken but he's no senior citizen either.

Draft positions don't mean much outside the top 10. Sure, there were guys like Klay, Kawhi, etc. But most players there are rotational players at best and out of the league early at worst. If both Nesmith and Langford were playing for another team and shine, we'd be hearing about how Danny missed those guys. It's not the lack of talent, but rather lack of opportunity that these young prospects don't meet your expecations.

Lol, nice strawman.

You're using Torrey Craig, who was aged 27 in his rookie year, as an example of a "young guy" contributing. It's just lying.

Please be civil.

[libermaniac]

I'm on team Rollie: Don't trade them. Particularly as their projected future value (in my head) far exceeds current market value.  I particularly am bullish on Romeo's future in the league as an elite multi-positional defender who will make solid offensive contributions when given opportunities.

I tend to agree not to trade Romeo but not because I’m particularly bullish on him. I just think his value is minimal, so that doesn’t outweigh the slim chances, in my opinion that he could become a valuable asset someday. In other words I think there’s maybe a 20% chance that he becomes a valuable player some day. But his return would be minimal, so no point in trading him.

[Hoopvortex]

There is a shelf life for a player to be a prospect.  It can vary but RWilliams, is now entering his 4th season.  He may have already graduated from the "prospect" status to whatever is next (veteran?).  To me, clearly Pritchard, Langford, Nesmith, and MBrown fit the "prospect" category since each has only 1 or 2 season in the NBA and clearly are developmental in that there is still clear potential ceiling to potentially be realized.  Edwards and GWilliams are 3 years in, and are on the fringe of not being prospects anymore, rather just fringe NBA players due to limited unrealized ceiling.  There just may not be that much there for them.

Grant and Carsen have played two seasons, not three, same as Romeo. They were all in the same draft.

There’s a thread on here right now with the melodramatic title, “Grant Williams: All Hope Lost?” - that for a 22-year old who has been a rotation player both years in the league, one of them on a contender - not by any stretch a ‘fringe’ player.

[Hoopvortex]

Romeo's defense is special with his length and ability to contort he body mid air not to foul and still contest the shot.His block of Harden comes to mind.Then there was the block on baseline after Prithard got beat two hands up going vertical at rim..I think,he disguises that almost 7ft wingspan with a sort padded physique and lfuidity.
Nesmith on the other hand is cut and threw himself around contesting everything Another huge wingspan and more  athletically-inclined than we were told.Almost qualified for fast in open court while Romeo smoothly changes gears and fearlessly takes charges .Both weakside rebound and cut backdoor
Nesmith was picked for 3 pt prowess for only a first half a season due to injury.
We now have Timelord, Pritchard and Williams (Marcus,Brown and Tatum with Rozier getting away and losing Kelly to Miami in free agency.
Lets grow a team like San Antonio did or Phoenix has done

I’m onboard with almost all these assessments, but what it comes down to at some point is that at least one of those players could reach a point where there aren’t enough minutes.

I believe that one of those two will be traded, not because he doesn’t merit rotation minutes, but because he does.

I expect Fournier and Smart to be on the roster next season, so the minutes crunch for Nesmith and Langford probably starts in Training Camp.

I’m betting on Nesmith.