Didn't the FO evaluate the BRK pick last off-season and came to the conclusion the Nets would be better than the Lakers?
Another "brilliant" off-season move by the clown posse.
If only the FO had the foresight to build some insurance into that LAL pick.....
I wouldn't call that foresight, more like "the least you can expect, considering what we gave up".
Proof is in the pudding, though. Danny took the wrong turn once again.
If someone, right now offered you:
1) Brooklyn pick (8th or 9th worst record) - 8th is 10th chance of top 3, 9th is 6.1%
or
2) Lakers pick (10th or 11th worst record) with a do-over if it's not 2 or 3 with the Kings pick - 10th is 2.9% chance of 2 or 3, 11th is 2.1 %
Which do you choose? That's the real analysis Ainge bet on ... not just Lakers vs. Nets records.
Yea I don't understand how someone wouldn't understand this. If offered the Lakers/King Pick for the Nets pick right now Cleveland would obviously not take the Nets pick. In fact, Cleveland fans are upset that Cleveland pick got the Nets pick instead of the Lakers/Kings pick now and says Danny got em again.
From the Cavs perspective, I'd prefer the Nets pick. They're best option is to get Lebron to stay and I think the Nets pick is a better trade asset. The 2019 draft looks much weaker and the top #1 protection on the LaKings pick makes it more difficult to trade.
Why would you think the Nets pick is a better trade asset now? It is most likely going to be 9th. While there are some great players at the top, I don't know if it is necessarily great at 9. Who can the Cavs really trade that for?
Do you anticipate the Kings adding key free agents? Their best players next year are going to be fox, cauley-stein, hield and whoever they get with a lottery pick this year. I am pretty sure they will be projected for a bottom 3 record in the league next year by Vegas, quite possibly the worst record in the league. If you look at the bottom of the standings and the teams that tanked this year wouldn't you rather have just about every other team's roster next year except for maybe Dallas, perhaps Nets or Magic?
Memphis theoretically has Conley, Gasol back
Knicks will have Porzingas, Hardaway, Frankie Niks and may have found something in Burke
Bulls will Have Lauri, Dunn, Holiday, Levine
Suns will have Booker, Warren, Jackson, Criss
Nets were already better than Kings and probably have a better chance at a free agent.
Magic and Dallas are both complete messes and I have no idea what they will do, but you could at least see the Magic only being Mediocre with Vucevic, Gordon, Issac, Fournier and another lottery pick (they are the most similar to the Kings with no high end talent)
I do expect the Kings to be bottom 5 next year. However the Kings pick being top 1 protected and reverting to the Sixers pick which will likely to be 20+ makes it very difficult to trade now. You might end up with the 3rd pick or the 23rd pick. No GM is going to put a lot of value in that pick given the uncertainty.
Add to that next year's draft being projected as significantly weaker plus just being next year's draft reduces its value further. I'd rather have the #9 pick in this draft than the #5 in the 2019 draft. They'll be several good prospects available at #9. Now the Cavs don't have any other good assets so that limits who they could go after. However someone like Kemba Walker on the last year of his contract might be a possibility.
They also can't trade the pick till after the draft cause of Stepian rule right? That's whT they said on their board anyways. I would certainly rather have a 5 pick next year. It does suck about the top 1 protection but I still think you are really overstating how good the 9th pick will be in value, deep draft or not.
I didn't mention them trading the pick before the draft. The Stepian rule does apply but that doesn't affect anything but the timing of the trade. I think you're ignoring that players like Kemba with only a year left on their contract have a lot less trade value. The #9 pick could land them Collin Sexton for example.
In any case, I was commenting on the trade value of the LaKings pick versus the Nets pick. If the Cavs had the LaKings pick instead, I don't see how they'd be able to trade it for much because of the top1 protection. its value is just too uncertain at this point.