Phoenix wins race to bottom, Memphis 2nd worst

[mef730]

Didn't the FO evaluate the BRK pick last off-season and came to the conclusion the Nets would be better than the Lakers?

Another "brilliant" off-season move by the clown posse.

If only the FO had the foresight to build some insurance into that LAL pick.....

I wouldn't call that foresight, more like "the least you can expect, considering what we gave up".

Proof is in the pudding, though. Danny took the wrong turn once again.

I'm sorry, and you are who again, to judge someone like Danny Ainge?

It's the internet, and I reserve the right to judge anybody. That's what the internet is here for. That and p0rn. And arguing with people who disagree with me. And making comments about politicians. And getting your finger bitten by Charlie.

The world is a better place because of the internet.

Mike

[libermaniac]

Didn't the FO evaluate the BRK pick last off-season and came to the conclusion the Nets would be better than the Lakers?

Another "brilliant" off-season move by the clown posse.

If only the FO had the foresight to build some insurance into that LAL pick.....

I wouldn't call that foresight, more like "the least you can expect, considering what we gave up".

Proof is in the pudding, though. Danny took the wrong turn once again.

If someone, right now offered you:

1) Brooklyn pick (8th or 9th worst record) - 8th is 10th chance of top 3, 9th is 6.1%

or

2) Lakers pick (10th or 11th worst record) with a do-over if it's not 2 or 3 with the Kings pick - 10th is 2.9% chance of 2 or 3, 11th is 2.1 %

Which do you choose?  That's the real analysis Ainge bet on ... not just Lakers vs. Nets records.

[celticsclay]

Didn't the FO evaluate the BRK pick last off-season and came to the conclusion the Nets would be better than the Lakers?

Another "brilliant" off-season move by the clown posse.

If only the FO had the foresight to build some insurance into that LAL pick.....

I wouldn't call that foresight, more like "the least you can expect, considering what we gave up".

Proof is in the pudding, though. Danny took the wrong turn once again.

If someone, right now offered you:

1) Brooklyn pick (8th or 9th worst record) - 8th is 10th chance of top 3, 9th is 6.1%

or

2) Lakers pick (10th or 11th worst record) with a do-over if it's not 2 or 3 with the Kings pick - 10th is 2.9% chance of 2 or 3, 11th is 2.1 %

Which do you choose?  That's the real analysis Ainge bet on ... not just Lakers vs. Nets records.

Yea I don't understand how someone wouldn't understand this. If offered the Lakers/King Pick for the Nets pick right now Cleveland would obviously not take the Nets pick. In fact, Cleveland fans are upset that Cleveland pick got the Nets pick instead of the Lakers/Kings pick now and says Danny got em again.

[Androslav]

All you Bender doubters, think twice, he made huge contribution to his teams main season goal. Boy just gets things done.

[hpantazo]

All you Bender doubters, think twice, he made huge contribution to his teams main season goal. Boy just gets things done.

That’s what we call 3-D chess level tanking right there.

[CelticsElite]

Didn't the FO evaluate the BRK pick last off-season and came to the conclusion the Nets would be better than the Lakers?

Another "brilliant" off-season move by the clown posse.

If only the FO had the foresight to build some insurance into that LAL pick.....

I wouldn't call that foresight, more like "the least you can expect, considering what we gave up".

Proof is in the pudding, though. Danny took the wrong turn once again.

If someone, right now offered you:

1) Brooklyn pick (8th or 9th worst record) - 8th is 10th chance of top 3, 9th is 6.1%

or

2) Lakers pick (10th or 11th worst record) with a do-over if it's not 2 or 3 with the Kings pick - 10th is 2.9% chance of 2 or 3, 11th is 2.1 %

Which do you choose?  That's the real analysis Ainge bet on ... not just Lakers vs. Nets records.

true. Ainge is a very patient guy. The nets for piece/Garnett trade at first seemed like junk. Everyone thought the nets would be contenders for years then they imploded. Took years but we got the special players we have now cuz of it

[celticsclay]

Pretty interesting tank game tonight. With the Suns clinching worst record, they can afford to win. Dallas is in a 3 way tie for 5th place right now. With a win they would move to 7th. Can dallas afford to win?

[libermaniac]

true. Ainge is a very patient guy. The nets for piece/Garnett trade at first seemed like junk. Everyone thought the nets would be contenders for years then they imploded. Took years but we got the special players we have now cuz of it

I'm thinking his patience for the Memphis pick may pay off very nicely too.  Top 8 protected in 2019, top 6 in 2020, unprotected in 2021.

[tazzmaniac]

Didn't the FO evaluate the BRK pick last off-season and came to the conclusion the Nets would be better than the Lakers?

Another "brilliant" off-season move by the clown posse.

If only the FO had the foresight to build some insurance into that LAL pick.....

I wouldn't call that foresight, more like "the least you can expect, considering what we gave up".

Proof is in the pudding, though. Danny took the wrong turn once again.

If someone, right now offered you:

1) Brooklyn pick (8th or 9th worst record) - 8th is 10th chance of top 3, 9th is 6.1%

or

2) Lakers pick (10th or 11th worst record) with a do-over if it's not 2 or 3 with the Kings pick - 10th is 2.9% chance of 2 or 3, 11th is 2.1 %

Which do you choose?  That's the real analysis Ainge bet on ... not just Lakers vs. Nets records.

Yea I don't understand how someone wouldn't understand this. If offered the Lakers/King Pick for the Nets pick right now Cleveland would obviously not take the Nets pick. In fact, Cleveland fans are upset that Cleveland pick got the Nets pick instead of the Lakers/Kings pick now and says Danny got em again.

From the Cavs perspective, I'd prefer the Nets pick.  They're best option is to get Lebron to stay and I think the Nets pick is a better trade asset.  The 2019 draft looks much weaker and the top #1 protection on the LaKings pick makes it more difficult to trade.   

[No Nickname]

So Brooklyn could be picking 9th and the Lakers 10th, and it was a colossal mistake that Ainge offered Cleveland the Brooklyn pick instead of the Lakers' pick? 

Missed it by.... that much!

[celticsclay]

Didn't the FO evaluate the BRK pick last off-season and came to the conclusion the Nets would be better than the Lakers?

Another "brilliant" off-season move by the clown posse.

If only the FO had the foresight to build some insurance into that LAL pick.....

I wouldn't call that foresight, more like "the least you can expect, considering what we gave up".

Proof is in the pudding, though. Danny took the wrong turn once again.

If someone, right now offered you:

1) Brooklyn pick (8th or 9th worst record) - 8th is 10th chance of top 3, 9th is 6.1%

or

2) Lakers pick (10th or 11th worst record) with a do-over if it's not 2 or 3 with the Kings pick - 10th is 2.9% chance of 2 or 3, 11th is 2.1 %

Which do you choose?  That's the real analysis Ainge bet on ... not just Lakers vs. Nets records.

Yea I don't understand how someone wouldn't understand this. If offered the Lakers/King Pick for the Nets pick right now Cleveland would obviously not take the Nets pick. In fact, Cleveland fans are upset that Cleveland pick got the Nets pick instead of the Lakers/Kings pick now and says Danny got em again.

From the Cavs perspective, I'd prefer the Nets pick.  They're best option is to get Lebron to stay and I think the Nets pick is a better trade asset.  The 2019 draft looks much weaker and the top #1 protection on the LaKings pick makes it more difficult to trade.   

Why would you think the Nets pick is a better trade asset now? It is most likely going to be 9th. While there are some great players at the top, I don't know if it is necessarily great at 9. Who can the Cavs really trade that for?

  Do you anticipate the Kings adding key free agents? Their best players next year are going to be fox, cauley-stein, hield and whoever they get with a lottery pick this year. I am pretty sure they will be projected for a bottom 3 record in the league next year by Vegas, quite possibly the worst record in the league. If you look at the bottom of the standings and the teams that tanked this year wouldn't you rather have just about every other team's roster next year except for maybe Dallas, perhaps Nets or Magic?

Memphis theoretically has Conley, Gasol back
Knicks will have Porzingas, Hardaway, Frankie Niks and may have found something in Burke
Bulls will Have Lauri, Dunn, Holiday, Levine
Suns will have Booker, Warren, Jackson, Criss
Nets were already better than Kings and probably have a better chance at a free agent.
Magic and Dallas are both complete messes and I have no idea what they will do, but you could at least see the Magic only being Mediocre with Vucevic, Gordon, Issac, Fournier and another lottery pick (they are the most similar to the Kings with no high end talent)

[td450]

Didn't the FO evaluate the BRK pick last off-season and came to the conclusion the Nets would be better than the Lakers?

Another "brilliant" off-season move by the clown posse.

If only the FO had the foresight to build some insurance into that LAL pick.....

I wouldn't call that foresight, more like "the least you can expect, considering what we gave up".

Proof is in the pudding, though. Danny took the wrong turn once again.

If someone, right now offered you:

1) Brooklyn pick (8th or 9th worst record) - 8th is 10th chance of top 3, 9th is 6.1%

or

2) Lakers pick (10th or 11th worst record) with a do-over if it's not 2 or 3 with the Kings pick - 10th is 2.9% chance of 2 or 3, 11th is 2.1 %

Which do you choose?  That's the real analysis Ainge bet on ... not just Lakers vs. Nets records.

Yea I don't understand how someone wouldn't understand this. If offered the Lakers/King Pick for the Nets pick right now Cleveland would obviously not take the Nets pick. In fact, Cleveland fans are upset that Cleveland pick got the Nets pick instead of the Lakers/Kings pick now and says Danny got em again.

I understand that the likelihood is that the Nets pick won't be as high this year as the LA/Sac pick would end up being, but this is a much, much better draft. You might get Wendall Carter at #9, and he should be better than what's around at #3-4 next year.

I very much hope we use the LA/Sac pick and Rozier to get into this year's draft, hopefully in the top 7.

[celticsclay]

Didn't the FO evaluate the BRK pick last off-season and came to the conclusion the Nets would be better than the Lakers?

Another "brilliant" off-season move by the clown posse.

If only the FO had the foresight to build some insurance into that LAL pick.....

I wouldn't call that foresight, more like "the least you can expect, considering what we gave up".

Proof is in the pudding, though. Danny took the wrong turn once again.

If someone, right now offered you:

1) Brooklyn pick (8th or 9th worst record) - 8th is 10th chance of top 3, 9th is 6.1%

or

2) Lakers pick (10th or 11th worst record) with a do-over if it's not 2 or 3 with the Kings pick - 10th is 2.9% chance of 2 or 3, 11th is 2.1 %

Which do you choose?  That's the real analysis Ainge bet on ... not just Lakers vs. Nets records.

Yea I don't understand how someone wouldn't understand this. If offered the Lakers/King Pick for the Nets pick right now Cleveland would obviously not take the Nets pick. In fact, Cleveland fans are upset that Cleveland pick got the Nets pick instead of the Lakers/Kings pick now and says Danny got em again.

I understand that the likelihood is that the Nets pick won't be as high this year as the LA/Sac pick would end up being, but this is a much, much better draft. You might get Wendall Carter at #9, and he should be better than what's around at #3-4 next year.

I very much hope we use the LA/Sac pick and Rozier to get into this year's draft, hopefully in the top 7.

Just about every year people say this draft is so deep/good. I really doubt what is available at the 9th pick this year ends up better than what is available next year at 3 or 4. There is also a chance that next year high schoolers can enter.

[tazzmaniac]

Didn't the FO evaluate the BRK pick last off-season and came to the conclusion the Nets would be better than the Lakers?

Another "brilliant" off-season move by the clown posse.

If only the FO had the foresight to build some insurance into that LAL pick.....

I wouldn't call that foresight, more like "the least you can expect, considering what we gave up".

Proof is in the pudding, though. Danny took the wrong turn once again.

If someone, right now offered you:

1) Brooklyn pick (8th or 9th worst record) - 8th is 10th chance of top 3, 9th is 6.1%

or

2) Lakers pick (10th or 11th worst record) with a do-over if it's not 2 or 3 with the Kings pick - 10th is 2.9% chance of 2 or 3, 11th is 2.1 %

Which do you choose?  That's the real analysis Ainge bet on ... not just Lakers vs. Nets records.

Yea I don't understand how someone wouldn't understand this. If offered the Lakers/King Pick for the Nets pick right now Cleveland would obviously not take the Nets pick. In fact, Cleveland fans are upset that Cleveland pick got the Nets pick instead of the Lakers/Kings pick now and says Danny got em again.

From the Cavs perspective, I'd prefer the Nets pick.  They're best option is to get Lebron to stay and I think the Nets pick is a better trade asset.  The 2019 draft looks much weaker and the top #1 protection on the LaKings pick makes it more difficult to trade.   

Why would you think the Nets pick is a better trade asset now? It is most likely going to be 9th. While there are some great players at the top, I don't know if it is necessarily great at 9. Who can the Cavs really trade that for?

  Do you anticipate the Kings adding key free agents? Their best players next year are going to be fox, cauley-stein, hield and whoever they get with a lottery pick this year. I am pretty sure they will be projected for a bottom 3 record in the league next year by Vegas, quite possibly the worst record in the league. If you look at the bottom of the standings and the teams that tanked this year wouldn't you rather have just about every other team's roster next year except for maybe Dallas, perhaps Nets or Magic?

Memphis theoretically has Conley, Gasol back
Knicks will have Porzingas, Hardaway, Frankie Niks and may have found something in Burke
Bulls will Have Lauri, Dunn, Holiday, Levine
Suns will have Booker, Warren, Jackson, Criss
Nets were already better than Kings and probably have a better chance at a free agent.
Magic and Dallas are both complete messes and I have no idea what they will do, but you could at least see the Magic only being Mediocre with Vucevic, Gordon, Issac, Fournier and another lottery pick (they are the most similar to the Kings with no high end talent)

I do expect the Kings to be bottom 5 next year.  However the Kings pick being top 1 protected and reverting to the Sixers pick which will likely to be 20+ makes it very difficult to trade now.   You might end up with the 3rd pick or the 23rd pick.   No GM is going to put a lot of value in that pick given the uncertainty. 

Add to that next year's draft being projected as significantly weaker plus just being next year's draft reduces its value further.   I'd rather have the #9 pick in this draft than the #5 in the 2019 draft.  They'll be several good prospects available at #9.  Now the Cavs don't have any other good assets so that limits who they could go after.  However someone like Kemba Walker on the last year of his contract might be a possibility. 

[tazzmaniac]

Didn't the FO evaluate the BRK pick last off-season and came to the conclusion the Nets would be better than the Lakers?

Another "brilliant" off-season move by the clown posse.

If only the FO had the foresight to build some insurance into that LAL pick.....

I wouldn't call that foresight, more like "the least you can expect, considering what we gave up".

Proof is in the pudding, though. Danny took the wrong turn once again.

If someone, right now offered you:

1) Brooklyn pick (8th or 9th worst record) - 8th is 10th chance of top 3, 9th is 6.1%

or

2) Lakers pick (10th or 11th worst record) with a do-over if it's not 2 or 3 with the Kings pick - 10th is 2.9% chance of 2 or 3, 11th is 2.1 %

Which do you choose?  That's the real analysis Ainge bet on ... not just Lakers vs. Nets records.

Yea I don't understand how someone wouldn't understand this. If offered the Lakers/King Pick for the Nets pick right now Cleveland would obviously not take the Nets pick. In fact, Cleveland fans are upset that Cleveland pick got the Nets pick instead of the Lakers/Kings pick now and says Danny got em again.

I understand that the likelihood is that the Nets pick won't be as high this year as the LA/Sac pick would end up being, but this is a much, much better draft. You might get Wendall Carter at #9, and he should be better than what's around at #3-4 next year.

I very much hope we use the LA/Sac pick and Rozier to get into this year's draft, hopefully in the top 7.

Just about every year people say this draft is so deep/good. I really doubt what is available at the 9th pick this year ends up better than what is available next year at 3 or 4. There is also a chance that next year high schoolers can enter.

That's just not true.  Some drafts are discussed as being deep and good, some are top heavy and some are weak.  Generally the projections are pretty accurate.  2019 looks like a weak draft.  Elimination of the one and done rule would change the equation but I'd say the chances of that happening are less than 50% this offseason and even if it gets approved it may not be for next year's draft.