who is the Celtics new starting pf?

[jay]

Trading Crowder/AB for someone making $12 mil would be enough salary savings to pay Hayward the Max.  Favors, Vucevic, or go get Jamychal Green in a Sign and Trade.

Then turn around and sign Luc Richard Mbah a Moute with the room exception:

IT. Rozier
Brown.  Smart
Hayward. Tatum
Green. LRMM
Horford. Zizic.

Green makes a lot of sesne. It's been reported that MEM wants to move on and his agent said they have 2 S&T offers on the table right now. Maybe they do Bradley and Crowder for Green at 3 years 33 mil. Only difference from what you said is they wouldn't need LRMM. They already signed Theis.

To me, Theis is more of a center. I've watched as much of him as I could on youtube, he is extremely long and athletic and has a decent jumper. If Zizic isn't ready to help this year, Theis has to be the backup center.

We don't need to spend the $4.3 million room exception on a PF like LRMM, but it would help to have a veteran there instead of trying to rely on Tatum early on. Like everything, it will depend on who stays out of Bradley, Smart, and Crowder and if any of them are traded for an actual player or just a draft pick. (I vote for JaMychal Green)

[footey]

Trading Crowder/AB for someone making $12 mil would be enough salary savings to pay Hayward the Max.  Favors, Vucevic, or go get Jamychal Green in a Sign and Trade.

Then turn around and sign Luc Richard Mbah a Moute with the room exception:

IT. Rozier
Brown.  Smart
Hayward. Tatum
Green. LRMM
Horford. Zizic.

Green makes a lot of sesne. It's been reported that MEM wants to move on and his agent said they have 2 S&T offers on the table right now. Maybe they do Bradley and Crowder for Green at 3 years 33 mil. Only difference from what you said is they wouldn't need LRMM. They already signed Theis.

To me, Theis is more of a center. I've watched as much of him as I could on youtube, he is extremely long and athletic and has a decent jumper. If Zizic isn't ready to help this year, Theis has to be the backup center.

We don't need to spend the $4.3 million room exception on a PF like LRMM, but it would help to have a veteran there instead of trying to rely on Tatum early on. Like everything, it will depend on who stays out of Bradley, Smart, and Crowder and if any of them are traded for an actual player or just a draft pick. (I vote for JaMychal Green)

Yeah, that's what's so intriguing about him. Al basically plays 4 and 5, and so can this guy. They could mix and match together. I have watched his videos too, and also read a few articles about him (very little has been written in depth, other than on NBA draft.net from a few years ago). He really fits the profile of what we are looking for: athletic, long, 3 point shooter, good defender, rebounder and shot blocker.  Fingers crossed on this one.

[tarheelsxxiii]

I would offer Gasol the room exception and start him but limit his minutes. Not sure he would take $4.3 million per year though.

There is no chance on God's green Earth he takes that.

I'm starting to be in the crowd that it's time to overpay (in trade) for Vucevic. Man I wish Danny traded for Nurkic last season. He would be a great fit and is on a salary we can afford right now.

Me too.  I don't see why Portland would trade him, though. 

[kozlodoev]

Trading Crowder/AB for someone making $12 mil would be enough salary savings to pay Hayward the Max.  Favors, Vucevic, or go get Jamychal Green in a Sign and Trade.

Then turn around and sign Luc Richard Mbah a Moute with the room exception:

IT. Rozier
Brown.  Smart
Hayward. Tatum
Green. LRMM
Horford. Zizic.

Green makes a lot of sesne. It's been reported that MEM wants to move on and his agent said they have 2 S&T offers on the table right now. Maybe they do Bradley and Crowder for Green at 3 years 33 mil. Only difference from what you said is they wouldn't need LRMM. They already signed Theis.

To me, Theis is more of a center. I've watched as much of him as I could on youtube, he is extremely long and athletic and has a decent jumper. If Zizic isn't ready to help this year, Theis has to be the backup center.

We don't need to spend the $4.3 million room exception on a PF like LRMM, but it would help to have a veteran there instead of trying to rely on Tatum early on. Like everything, it will depend on who stays out of Bradley, Smart, and Crowder and if any of them are traded for an actual player or just a draft pick. (I vote for JaMychal Green)

Yeah, that's what's so intriguing about him. Al basically plays 4 and 5, and so can this guy. They could mix and match together. I have watched his videos too, and also read a few articles about him (very little has been written in depth, other than on NBA draft.net from a few years ago). He really fits the profile of what we are looking for: athletic, long, 3 point shooter, good defender, rebounder and shot blocker.  Fingers crossed on this one.

I stand by my earlier prediction that he will play zero minutes in the regular season for us.

[footey]

Trading Crowder/AB for someone making $12 mil would be enough salary savings to pay Hayward the Max.  Favors, Vucevic, or go get Jamychal Green in a Sign and Trade.

Then turn around and sign Luc Richard Mbah a Moute with the room exception:

IT. Rozier
Brown.  Smart
Hayward. Tatum
Green. LRMM
Horford. Zizic.

Green makes a lot of sesne. It's been reported that MEM wants to move on and his agent said they have 2 S&T offers on the table right now. Maybe they do Bradley and Crowder for Green at 3 years 33 mil. Only difference from what you said is they wouldn't need LRMM. They already signed Theis.

To me, Theis is more of a center. I've watched as much of him as I could on youtube, he is extremely long and athletic and has a decent jumper. If Zizic isn't ready to help this year, Theis has to be the backup center.

We don't need to spend the $4.3 million room exception on a PF like LRMM, but it would help to have a veteran there instead of trying to rely on Tatum early on. Like everything, it will depend on who stays out of Bradley, Smart, and Crowder and if any of them are traded for an actual player or just a draft pick. (I vote for JaMychal Green)

Yeah, that's what's so intriguing about him. Al basically plays 4 and 5, and so can this guy. They could mix and match together. I have watched his videos too, and also read a few articles about him (very little has been written in depth, other than on NBA draft.net from a few years ago). He really fits the profile of what we are looking for: athletic, long, 3 point shooter, good defender, rebounder and shot blocker.  Fingers crossed on this one.

I stand by my earlier prediction that he will play zero minutes in the regular season for us.

And you will look back on your prediction with embarrassment.

[jbpats]

I would offer Gasol the room exception and start him but limit his minutes. Not sure he would take $4.3 million per year though.

There is no chance on God's green Earth he takes that.

I'm starting to be in the crowd that it's time to overpay (in trade) for Vucevic. Man I wish Danny traded for Nurkic last season. He would be a great fit and is on a salary we can afford right now.

Me too.  I don't see why Portland would trade him, though.

I wasn't implying that Portland would trade Nurkic, I was more or less implying that should have been a target for Danny while Denver was trying to unload him. I think he was a pretty big pass on his part.

What would realistically get Vuc from Orlando? Crowder/AB and a first? I think at this point you overpay especially where you need to shed contracts anyway. I have to think Orlando would be more interested in picks since they're in the constant rebuilding phase.
What about Bradley and 2 firsts, ours and maybe Memphis 2019?

[Ed Hollison]

Whoever plays alongside Horford in the frontcourt has to be cheap, a good defender, and a good rebounder. Think of Zaza Pachulia starting for the Warriors last year. That's what the Celtics need.

In that case you'd have 4 out of 5 players in the starting lineup able to shoot the 3. No big deal to have a guy who just rim runs, bangs down low, and cleans the glass. Plus, Horford doesn't play D and rebound like he did in his younger years.

Meanwhile, you have to make sure you're not locked into salary beyond this year, when IT is up for a new contract (and so are Bradley and Smart, if they aren't traded).

If you ask me, you go into the year with a competition for the 4/5 spot next to Horford. Think some combination of Theis, Yabusele (if he isn't stashed one more year), and a cheap FA pickup via the room exception or a minimum salary like Ilyasova.

One other reason not to go for a big splash is that end-of-game lineups will probably be smaller and have just one big on the floor (Horford). You could have a lineup of IT, Smart, Jaylen Brown, Hayward, and Horford to close out games. Besides IT, it would be a bunch of physical guys who can move their feet, switch on D, rebound etc. while also playmaking and shooting on offense. In other words, don't overspend for a frontcourt player who won't close out games for you.

[dysgenic]

I would offer Gasol the room exception and start him but limit his minutes. Not sure he would take $4.3 million per year though.

There is no chance on God's green Earth he takes that.

I'm starting to be in the crowd that it's time to overpay (in trade) for Vucevic. Man I wish Danny traded for Nurkic last season. He would be a great fit and is on a salary we can afford right now.

Me too.  I don't see why Portland would trade him, though.

I wasn't implying that Portland would trade Nurkic, I was more or less implying that should have been a target for Danny while Denver was trying to unload him. I think he was a pretty big pass on his part.

What would realistically get Vuc from Orlando? Crowder/AB and a first? I think at this point you overpay especially where you need to shed contracts anyway. I have to think Orlando would be more interested in picks since they're in the constant rebuilding phase.
What about Bradley and 2 firsts, ours and maybe Memphis 2019

I keep telling you guys,  Vuc cannot be had for anything close to that. It would be a win to only have to part with LAL pick. They probably will want more. Kid is 26 years old with his best years in front of him- be realistic.

[Fan from VT]

Maybe not for "starting," but is it worth kicking the tires on any of these with MLE money?

- Jordan Hill
- Dante Cunningham (hey, he's used to playing with shooters! he was "The Big" with Allan Ray, Foye, and Lowry!)
- Mcadoo?
- Motiejunas? (what happened to him?)
- Terrence Jones (Ditto?)
- McRoberts
- Thomas Robinson: Needs a fresh start with a defined role on a good team?
- Derrick Williams: Same?

[td450]

We aren't trading for anyone who needs to get paid. We will be shedding salary, not adding it. That means no Jamychal Green, or any player in a similar position. Only cost controlled bigs need apply

[Jon]

Obviously, trading for a real PF without giving up too much value would be ideal. However, if that's not possible, we should just play the best players available, even if that means going with Crowder, Hayward, and/or Taytum most of the game.