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Re: Cavs to rest big three against Miami tonight
« Reply #90 on: April 10, 2017, 10:33:35 PM »

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Sweet. Beat Milwaukee and we've got the #1 seed.

Or Toronto getting a win against Cavs.

Toronto probably tanks that game to get out of the bracket with the Cavs...

Toronto won the series against the Wizards

Re: Cavs to rest big three against Miami tonight
« Reply #91 on: April 10, 2017, 10:52:41 PM »

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Sweet. Beat Milwaukee and we've got the #1 seed.

Or Toronto getting a win against Cavs.

Toronto probably tanks that game to get out of the bracket with the Cavs...

They can't, Washington already locked up the #4 seed! They can still rest their players tho.

If Toronto loses they give the Cavs a chance to move back into the #1 seed and then Toronto won't see them until the Eastern conference finals.

Re: Cavs to rest big three against Miami tonight
« Reply #92 on: April 10, 2017, 10:58:47 PM »

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Sweet. Beat Milwaukee and we've got the #1 seed.

Or Toronto getting a win against Cavs.

Toronto probably tanks that game to get out of the bracket with the Cavs...

They can't, Washington already locked up the #4 seed! They can still rest their players tho.

If Toronto loses they give the Cavs a chance to move back into the #1 seed and then Toronto won't see them until the Eastern conference finals.

Then let's hope the Celtics do their work on Wednesday! Let's go C's!


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Re: Cavs to rest big three against Miami tonight
« Reply #93 on: April 10, 2017, 11:07:42 PM »

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Sweet. Beat Milwaukee and we've got the #1 seed.

Or Toronto getting a win against Cavs.

Toronto probably tanks that game to get out of the bracket with the Cavs...

They can't, Washington already locked up the #4 seed! They can still rest their players tho.

If Toronto loses they give the Cavs a chance to move back into the #1 seed and then Toronto won't see them until the Eastern conference finals.

Then let's hope the Celtics do their work on Wednesday! Let's go C's!

The Bucks will still be fighting to move up when we play on Wednesday! It'll be a tough game!

Re: Cavs to rest big three against Miami tonight
« Reply #94 on: April 10, 2017, 11:16:14 PM »

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Sweet. Beat Milwaukee and we've got the #1 seed.

Or Toronto getting a win against Cavs.


Toronto is on a tear .....they are not a tanking club ......tanking would upset the momentum .....losing on purpose is not a good way to build team cohesion.   They are not the 76ers or Suns .
Toronto probably tanks that game to get out of the bracket with the Cavs...

They can't, Washington already locked up the #4 seed! They can still rest their players tho.

If Toronto loses they give the Cavs a chance to move back into the #1 seed and then Toronto won't see them until the Eastern conference finals.

Re: Cavs to rest big three against Miami tonight
« Reply #95 on: April 10, 2017, 11:19:29 PM »

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Sweet. Beat Milwaukee and we've got the #1 seed.

Or Toronto getting a win against Cavs.

Toronto probably tanks that game to get out of the bracket with the Cavs...

They can't, Washington already locked up the #4 seed! They can still rest their players tho.

If Toronto loses they give the Cavs a chance to move back into the #1 seed and then Toronto won't see them until the Eastern conference finals.

Then let's hope the Celtics do their work on Wednesday! Let's go C's!

The Bucks will still be fighting to move up when we play on Wednesday! It'll be a tough game!

Not necessarily.  Atlanta holds the head-to-head tiebreaker, so if they win tomorrow, the Bucks can't catch them.  Meanwhile, Milwaukee holds the tiebreaker over Indy, so they can't be caught for the 7th spot either.  If Atlanta wins tomorrow, the 5 and 6 seeds are set.

Re: Cavs to rest big three against Miami tonight
« Reply #96 on: April 10, 2017, 11:28:18 PM »

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Sweet. Beat Milwaukee and we've got the #1 seed.

Or Toronto getting a win against Cavs.

Toronto probably tanks that game to get out of the bracket with the Cavs...

They can't, Washington already locked up the #4 seed! They can still rest their players tho.

If Toronto loses they give the Cavs a chance to move back into the #1 seed and then Toronto won't see them until the Eastern conference finals.

Then let's hope the Celtics do their work on Wednesday! Let's go C's!

The Bucks will still be fighting to move up when we play on Wednesday! It'll be a tough game!

Fortunately, Atlanta holds the tiebreaker over Milwaukee, so if Atlanta wins tomorrow night, Milwaukee has nothing to play for on Wednesday. Milwaukee also holds the tiebreaker over Indy, so the Pacers can't catch them, either.

Mike

Re: Cavs to rest big three against Miami tonight
« Reply #97 on: April 10, 2017, 11:29:04 PM »

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Sweet. Beat Milwaukee and we've got the #1 seed.

Or Toronto getting a win against Cavs.

Toronto probably tanks that game to get out of the bracket with the Cavs...

They can't, Washington already locked up the #4 seed! They can still rest their players tho.

If Toronto loses they give the Cavs a chance to move back into the #1 seed and then Toronto won't see them until the Eastern conference finals.

Then let's hope the Celtics do their work on Wednesday! Let's go C's!

The Bucks will still be fighting to move up when we play on Wednesday! It'll be a tough game!

Not necessarily.  Atlanta holds the head-to-head tiebreaker, so if they win tomorrow, the Bucks can't catch them.  Meanwhile, Milwaukee holds the tiebreaker over Indy, so they can't be caught for the 7th spot either.  If Atlanta wins tomorrow, the 5 and 6 seeds are set.

Wow, beat me big time to that one. TP since we said the same thing. :)

Mike

Re: Cavs to rest big three against Miami tonight
« Reply #98 on: April 10, 2017, 11:37:12 PM »

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Sweet. Beat Milwaukee and we've got the #1 seed.

Or Toronto getting a win against Cavs.

Toronto probably tanks that game to get out of the bracket with the Cavs...

They can't, Washington already locked up the #4 seed! They can still rest their players tho.

If Toronto loses they give the Cavs a chance to move back into the #1 seed and then Toronto won't see them until the Eastern conference finals.

Then let's hope the Celtics do their work on Wednesday! Let's go C's!

The Bucks will still be fighting to move up when we play on Wednesday! It'll be a tough game!

Not necessarily.  Atlanta holds the head-to-head tiebreaker, so if they win tomorrow, the Bucks can't catch them.  Meanwhile, Milwaukee holds the tiebreaker over Indy, so they can't be caught for the 7th spot either.  If Atlanta wins tomorrow, the 5 and 6 seeds are set.

Wow, beat me big time to that one. TP since we said the same thing. :)

Mike

Nice, thanks for the info. I did not know that. The Bucks could be resting players Wednesday, then.

Re: Cavs to rest big three against Miami tonight
« Reply #99 on: April 10, 2017, 11:45:20 PM »

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Do you think The Cavs would rather face the Pacers than Heat or Bulls? I do.

Re: Cavs to rest big three against Miami tonight
« Reply #100 on: April 11, 2017, 10:31:42 AM »

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Watching the Heat game makes me think that it's not so bad if we end up losing someone like Crowder in a trade for someone like PG or Butler. There are a bunch of high end role players (or obscure bench players waiting to be tapped) out there. Like, look at James Johnson. Or Tyler Johnson. Or in our case last year, Evan Turner. Yes, Crowder is very good but if you could get a guy who brings 80% of what Crowder brings while landing an all-star, all-NBA talent like PG, it's something to think about.
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« Reply #101 on: April 11, 2017, 11:14:53 AM »

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Re: Cavs to rest big three against Miami tonight
« Reply #102 on: April 11, 2017, 11:58:52 AM »

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Watching the Heat game makes me think that it's not so bad if we end up losing someone like Crowder in a trade for someone like PG or Butler. There are a bunch of high end role players (or obscure bench players waiting to be tapped) out there. Like, look at James Johnson. Or Tyler Johnson. Or in our case last year, Evan Turner. Yes, Crowder is very good but if you could get a guy who brings 80% of what Crowder brings while landing an all-star, all-NBA talent like PG, it's something to think about.

Nobody thinks that Crowder's production is irreplaceable.  The issue is replacing his production at his current salary(Right now he's an above-average starter at an 8th or 9th man price).  With the three guys you named, that's not possible. 

James Johnson is only making $4 million this year, but I can't see him agreeing to anything short of $10-12 million/year this summer, which puts him way out of Crowder's price range.  Tyler Johnson, on the other hand, will be making ~$1 million LESS than Crowder next year, which is an incredible deal. However, that balloons to ~$20 million/year in 2018-19 and 2019-20 (last year is a player option), which is insane.  As for Turner, I think we all know that the 4/70 deal he signed was crazy.

Obviously you aren't trying to say that we should add those specific guys, but just that players are available with similar production to Crowder.  And you're absolutely right.  But the main source of value for Crowder is his insanely low long-term salary.  You can't find anyone out there with similar value for the money, and any that you do find will be held on to tightly.  Crowder should be as well.
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