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Re: Bucher: Bulls shopping Butler
« Reply #225 on: January 06, 2017, 08:31:33 PM »

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Noel looked great. Perfect fit for the Celtics

Re: Bucher: Bulls shopping Butler
« Reply #226 on: January 06, 2017, 08:33:38 PM »

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Noel looked great. Perfect fit for the Celtics

If he replaces KO.. then of course.
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Re: Bucher: Bulls shopping Butler
« Reply #227 on: January 06, 2017, 08:34:06 PM »

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Boy is he
Like his game as starter next to horford or backup big, 1st off bench
He is not a starter of note on any team in the nba so danny shouldn't over pay for him.  Embed is the real deal, franchise guy.  So philly needs to get realistic

Re: Bucher: Bulls shopping Butler
« Reply #228 on: January 10, 2017, 11:12:44 AM »

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Melo is still in his prime. Can rebound and score with the best of them. Defense is played on occasion as in rarely. But they can get him to play D. He would be the single most dynamic scorer since P2 was good. Not his has last 2 years or so but pre 2011. Think of how Melo would open the whole floor up for IT to drive and the other guys to hit wide open jumpers. I would make it happen. You are paying 80 cents on the dollar and have him in his prime for the next 3 years.

A certain Isaiah Thomas would beg to differ.

Here the biggest difference P2 did it for 12+ years at a high level. He always crushed it in the playoffs as well. IT has really done it for 30 games and has yet to prove he can do it when he is the main focus of the D in the playoffs.

Re: Bucher: Bulls shopping Butler
« Reply #229 on: January 10, 2017, 11:13:42 AM »

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Melo is still in his prime. Can rebound and score with the best of them. Defense is played on occasion as in rarely. But they can get him to play D. He would be the single most dynamic scorer since P2 was good. Not his has last 2 years or so but pre 2011. Think of how Melo would open the whole floor up for IT to drive and the other guys to hit wide open jumpers. I would make it happen. You are paying 80 cents on the dollar and have him in his prime for the next 3 years.

http://www.si.com/nba/2016/12/22/george-karl-book-carmelo-anthony

That is all.
karl is an ****. Much of the inflammatory stuff in his book was clearly put there to drum up news.

Not that I disagree, but I wouldnt put too much stock in that book.

What he said^

Re: Bucher: Bulls shopping Butler
« Reply #230 on: January 10, 2017, 11:17:55 AM »

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Melo is still in his prime. Can rebound and score with the best of them. Defense is played on occasion as in rarely. But they can get him to play D. He would be the single most dynamic scorer since P2 was good. Not his has last 2 years or so but pre 2011. Think of how Melo would open the whole floor up for IT to drive and the other guys to hit wide open jumpers. I would make it happen. You are paying 80 cents on the dollar and have him in his prime for the next 3 years.


Melo is NOT in any way, shape or form still in his prime. His scoring is down 4ppg from a couple of years ago. His rebounding is down. eFG is down. FTs are down. His TS% is currently the 3rd lowest of his career. His FG% is the worst of his career. His defensive rating which was never good is now sliding into terrible territory.

He remains a very good player but is no longer an elite one. What you're watching is the last truly productive season or two of his career. He's 32 and will be 33 in 4 months with 34,000 minutes played on his legs. In 3 years Melo (and his $27m contract) may very well be an albatross.

That's exactly the type of deal the Cs won't make.

All his numbers are down because he is on a bad team having to deal with nut jobs like D Rose. He would be the perfect fit for the Celts right now and I don't think you would have to give up the farm to get him.

Re: Bucher: Bulls shopping Butler
« Reply #231 on: January 10, 2017, 11:24:54 AM »

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This might have been posted somewhere else, but Lowe said on his podcast that he thinks the Nets are holding out hope that the C's will trade their 2017 Nets pick.

He thinks if the Bulls could get Smart, Crowder and the 2017 Nets pick for Butler, they would do it.

I wouldn't give up all of that for Butler. Take out Smart and I would then do it. Question is, how disrespected would Crowder feel being moved for Butler instead of Hayward?

This. I'd substitute Rozier for Smart, but I don't think that's enough to get the deal done from Chicago. Can't say I'd blame them. Given the assets we have, we'll end up overpaying for a star.

As for the second question, well, he can feel however he likes.It would no longer be our issue.

Mike