Lester Hudson is a keeper

[xmuscularghandix]

In one sense I agree that Hudson is the anti-Gerald Green/Kedrick Brown.  His natural gifts are not why he's on the team right now; it's his fairly polished game. 

this is dead on, Gerald was an 18 year old who relied completely on his atheleticism. Hudson is a 25 year old that relied on hustle and his own abilities that he's worked on.

People can be born to be atheletic, they can't just be born and know how to run a team / be a hard worker.

[Cman]

In one sense I agree that Hudson is the anti-Gerald Green/Kedrick Brown.  His natural gifts are not why he's on the team right now; it's his fairly polished game. 

Still, I wouldn't get too excited yet.  Someone like Big Baby is going to have a hard enough time finding minutes on this team, let alone one of the last picks in the draft.  Furthermore, he's yet to do anything in a meaningful game.  More importantly, if he does, we'll have to ask ourselves, is it because he's really good or is because no one is paying attention to him because he's on the court with four All Stars?  Lots of players have tricked teams into big contract extensions because they played well on teams where the opposition ignored them (Jason Caffey and Austin Croshere jump to mind). 

Still, I think he could be of value.  Though I don't think he does anything this year, he might prove to be Eddie House's replacement next year.  But unless he prove he can contribute next year, I'm not overly enthused.  This team doesn't need an undersized 2 as part of their rebuilding plan. 

Well argued.  I think I agree that his upside at this point is to be an Eddie House-like replacement (albeit, one who perhaps shoots the 3 a bit worse, but penetrates better).

[guava_wrench]

This is what the 58th draft gets you so far in the league. This guys achilles heels is that he is mainly 25 years of age(which is dumb if you ask me, if anything its an advantage since you get a mature player).

You also get a player at age 25 who won't improve much. Basically, he is either ready, or he isn't. If he isn't, there is no point in sitting on him for 2 years to prepare for the future.

[gar]

This is what the 58th draft gets you so far in the league. This guys achilles heels is that he is mainly 25 years of age(which is dumb if you ask me, if anything its an advantage since you get a mature player).

You also get a player at age 25 who won't improve much. Basically, he is either ready, or he isn't. If he isn't, there is no point in sitting on him for 2 years to prepare for the future.

Don't agree at all. Why does it take veterans to win a championship? He will continue to learn the game. He may peak athletically; before his game peaks. Look at Ray, Eddie, Paul, KG. His shot is already good and will improve. His PG skills have only begun to be realized. His window is smaller than Rondo's; but he will grow enormously on this team with the veterans he has to learn from.

[guava_wrench]

This is what the 58th draft gets you so far in the league. This guys achilles heels is that he is mainly 25 years of age(which is dumb if you ask me, if anything its an advantage since you get a mature player).

You also get a player at age 25 who won't improve much. Basically, he is either ready, or he isn't. If he isn't, there is no point in sitting on him for 2 years to prepare for the future.

Don't agree at all. Why does it take veterans to win a championship? He will continue to learn the game. He may peak athletically; before his game peaks. Look at Ray, Eddie, Paul, KG. His shot is already good and will improve. His PG skills have only begun to be realized. His window is smaller than Rondo's; but he will grow enormously on this team with the veterans he has to learn from.

You asked, "Why does it take veterans to win a championship?"

This is your claim, so you answer it. I have no idea what your answer will be if you are mentioning 3 HOFers who are all past their peaks in every sense as examples. Are you saying that KG is better now for a championship run than he was 6 years ago? His is only in a better situation because he changed his priorities.

I'm not going to respond regarding Hudson because I don't want to be an anti-Hudson guy. I'm rooting for him like I do for all the Celtics. I'm just not good at fabricating reasons to expect success. Whatever happens happens.

[HomeRunBaker]

This is what the 58th draft gets you so far in the league. This guys achilles heels is that he is mainly 25 years of age(which is dumb if you ask me, if anything its an advantage since you get a mature player).

You also get a player at age 25 who won't improve much. Basically, he is either ready, or he isn't. If he isn't, there is no point in sitting on him for 2 years to prepare for the future.

This isn't really a fair nor an accurate statement.  Many solid NBA players did not reach their peak until they cracked 30 years of age or thereabouts. Our own Eddie House is only one of the many.

[guava_wrench]

This is what the 58th draft gets you so far in the league. This guys achilles heels is that he is mainly 25 years of age(which is dumb if you ask me, if anything its an advantage since you get a mature player).

You also get a player at age 25 who won't improve much. Basically, he is either ready, or he isn't. If he isn't, there is no point in sitting on him for 2 years to prepare for the future.

This isn't really a fair nor an accurate statement.  Many solid NBA players did not reach their peak until they cracked 30 years of age or thereabouts. Our own Eddie House is only one of the many.

I don't think Eddie House has improved at 30. He just ended up on a team that was forced to give him minutes due to a weak bench.

Don't forget how he was benched for a mediocre Cassell 2 years ago.

He remains the one dimensional player he has always been. He is a good example of why you should not expect Hudson to develop PG skills. House could have done a lot for his career if he learned to play PG at his height.

[Jon]

In one sense I agree that Hudson is the anti-Gerald Green/Kedrick Brown.  His natural gifts are not why he's on the team right now; it's his fairly polished game. 

this is dead on, Gerald was an 18 year old who relied completely on his atheleticism. Hudson is a 25 year old that relied on hustle and his own abilities that he's worked on.

People can be born to be atheletic, they can't just be born and know how to run a team / be a hard worker.

This isn't geared at you, xmuscular, but I just want to qualify my statement and say that while Lester is the anti-Gerald/Kedrick, it doesn't mean he's going to succeed.  Guys like J.R. Bremer and Brandon Hunter also came in quite polished to the C's and had good preseasons (and parts of seasons) and didn't exactly have stunning NBA careers.  And how good would they have looked playing next to Hall of Famers and All Stars like the C's have?