Celtics Draft Pick Watch

[Vermont Green]

Yep, I think we're locked in at #33, the best case scenario.

https://tankathon.com/full_draft

I think that #35 is headed to OKC, though, contrary to that board.

All I can find is that 2, 2nd round picks, and Justin Jackson were trade to OKC, but not which picks.  Was there reporting on the picks I missed?

Only one second was traded — the lesser of the Houston-Dallas-Miami pick (which will wind up either being Houston or Miami) or the Portland pick.  There was a lot of confusion about it considering the very complicated protections, but it was a single pick.

If I read it right then the #50 pick is the pick that was traded to OKC for MM and the Cs have 33 and 35.

Nope.  Pre-trade Celtics only had the better of Houston, Miami, and Dallas, unless Houston’s pick was 31 or 32, in which case it was the worst of Miami and Dallas.  Dallas finished in the middle, so now that’s single pick is either Houston at 33 or Miami at 50.  They also have the Portland pick at 35.  OKC gets the worst of whichever two picks the Celtics wound up from the Houston-Dallas-Miami pick and the Portland pick.  So that’s either 35 if Houston picks before San Antonio in the lottery, or 50 if the Spurs pick first.

So if we end up with the HOU pick (#33) the lesser of the picks to go to OKC is the POR pick at #35 (the MIA pick will go to IND via HOU).  If we don't get the HOU pick, we get the MIA pick at #50 (and I think IND gets pick #33 from HOU).  Then the lesser of pick #35 and pick #50 is pick #50, so MIA pick goes to OKC and we keep pick #35.

This actually makes sense and is consistent with with RealGM is saying.  I am fine with that.  We don't really need 2 seconds.  Happy to have Muscala.

Now we just need to figure out if it is the coin flip or the lottery result that will decide the order of the SAN-HOU second round picks.  Not that it makes much difference at this point.  We probably end up with the same player whether we pick at #33 or #35.  It is a nice pick to have in either case.  In some ways, better than having pick #29.

[Vermont Green]

UPDATE: Boston is sending the Thunder its 2029 second-round pick and the worst of its two second-round picks in 2023 as part of the [Muscala] deal, The Boston Globe's Adam Himmelsbach reports

I found this.  So OKC gets the worse of our two seconds this draft (as has been the consensus) but we also still owe them a second in 2029 as part of the Muscala trade.  RealGM is not reporting any protections for the 2029 pick.  It appears to be a straight conveyance of our pick in 2029.

[Vermont Green]

Something that I have been trying to clarify, can first rounders sign 2-way contracts?

Finally, some second-rounders – and perhaps even some first-rounders – won’t sign NBA deals immediately. They may get two-way contracts, play in the G League, or head overseas to refine their games while their NBA teams retain their rights. We’ll make note of that below too, wherever it’s applicable.

What I have seen is that first rounders can sign 2-way deals although I am not sure why they would since they are eligible for guaranteed contracts.  I know that we don't have any first round picks this year but I am trying to understand this from a general standpoint.  You can "stash" a first round pick of course, we did that with Yabusele.  But could you take a first rounder and give them a 2-way contract?  Would that then not be considered their rookie season?

We drafted Davison in the second round last season and signed him to a 2-way so I know that works.  I imagine that is a likely option for our second round pick this season.  Why not take a high risk, high upside player again.  Maybe one of the underdeveloped bigs that are being talked about, Edey for example.  We don't want to take up a regular roster spot on a "prospect" so a 2-way is a really good option.

[Celtics2021]

Something that I have been trying to clarify, can first rounders sign 2-way contracts?

Finally, some second-rounders – and perhaps even some first-rounders – won’t sign NBA deals immediately. They may get two-way contracts, play in the G League, or head overseas to refine their games while their NBA teams retain their rights. We’ll make note of that below too, wherever it’s applicable.

What I have seen is that first rounders can sign 2-way deals although I am not sure why they would since they are eligible for guaranteed contracts.  I know that we don't have any first round picks this year but I am trying to understand this from a general standpoint.  You can "stash" a first round pick of course, we did that with Yabusele.  But could you take a first rounder and give them a 2-way contract?  Would that then not be considered their rookie season?

We drafted Davison in the second round last season and signed him to a 2-way so I know that works.  I imagine that is a likely option for our second round pick this season.  Why not take a high risk, high upside player again.  Maybe one of the underdeveloped bigs that are being talked about, Edey for example.  We don't want to take up a regular roster spot on a "prospect" so a 2-way is a really good option.

First rounders can't sign 2-ways immediately after being drafted.  It's an awkwardly written sentence.  1st rounders can sign overseas and directly with the G league (as happened once with an OKC draftee), so they're included under the umbrella of "won't sign NBA deals immediately", but not all of those options are available for 1st rounders.

[footey]

Who knows anything about Ryan Kalkbrenner, 7'1" Creighton center?  Intrigued.

[Roy H.]

Now we just need to figure out if it is the coin flip or the lottery result that will decide the order of the SAN-HOU second round picks.  Not that it makes much difference at this point.  We probably end up with the same player whether we pick at #33 or #35.  It is a nice pick to have in either case.  In some ways, better than having pick #29.

After some research, I think that your initial inclination is correct: if SAS jumps HOU in the lottery, then HOU would pick #32 and SAS would get #33 in the second round.

This is based upon how things were handled in the 2021 draft.  There, Cleveland and OKC were tied in the lottery.  OKC won the tiebreaker.  However, Cleveland jumped up to #3, ahead of OKC (which fell to #6).  In the second round, OKC picked before Cleveland.