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Patriots / Football / Re: Patriots 2025-26 Season
« Last post by Roy H. on Yesterday at 09:04:08 AM »
OL needs a complete overhaul. We knew this before the playoffs.

Wrs, LBs and kickers need upgrading. Feel they are below average units.

DL needs better edge rushers. One sack on Sam Darnold is crazy.

Maye and the secondary are the only things I'm sold on.

You?re sold on Maye even though he didn?t have any good games in the playoffs? He was solid in the regular season, but the competition wasn?t great. Next year will be telling, IMO.

While the quality of teams in the NFL varies, the saying "any given Sunday" is used because every NFL team has a chance to win every Sunday.  Drake Maye played against NFL teams with NFL athletes all season and won 17 out of 21 times. 

The defenses he faced in the playoffs were consistently strong and his offensive line was bad.  That's a disastrous combination. Nonetheless the team won 3 playoff games.  Yes, his performance was not on par with the regular season, but he did what he needed to do to make it to a Super Bowl in his second season.  I think it's more likely he learns from this experience and gets better for it than he was traumatized and will be developmentally stuck.  And since none of us knows for sure what will happen, I guess I just prefer to think he'll be good moving forward than he'll be bad.

I am MUCH more sold on the idea that Maye is at the start, barring injury, of a very successful career than I am sold on the idea that he will forever wilt under pressure.  Show me the other second year QBs in the league today who have won 3 playoff games.  And how many have been to the Super Bowl? Just having had this experience puts him ahead of other young, talented QBs in the league.

I am WAY more concerned about building an offensive line that can protect and run block.  Do that, add a top flight receiver, and I think Pats will be in the mix for SB61.   And Drake will continue to develop, which is the grace afforded every other 23 year old QB.

Drake didn?t win the playoff games, though. The defense and run game did. Darnold isn?t a great QB, but he won that game against the Rams. 3 TDs/356 yards. Drake had zero good games in the postseason. Hopefully he can learn from this and perform better in the postseason. We shall see..
Maye finished 2nd in MVP voting.  You don't just luck into that.

He had a passer rating over 100 in a playoff game this year (with 3 passing TD's in that game) and was better than Darnold in many respects in the SB (better passer rating, nearly 300 yards, 2 TD).  All his games weren't like the Denver game (which mind you was in a snow storm against an elite defense).

Drake was good in the regular season and bad in the playoffs. If you think that he was better than Darnold in the SB, I will have what you are having. Maye had a QBR of 16. It was probably the worst performance I?ve seen in a SB.
Sam completed just 50% of his throws.  He badly missed one many and is pretty lucky to not have thrown multiple picks.  He was off all night, he just didn't turn it over.  There is a reason that Drake had a better passer rating than Sam even with the turnovers.   Neither played particularly well in the SB.

Seattle won because they ran the ball and New England did not.  Seattle stuck with what got them there, NE did not.  The Patriots were significantly out schemed and out coached.  The Pats didn't start to move the ball until the Pats took the training wheels off after the game was basically over.  They clearly didn't trust Drake, but they also forgot to run the ball.  You can't play a conservative passing game if you aren't going to run it (they had just 4 designed runs in the 3rd quarter for 19 yards and 0 in the 4th quarter). NE's game plan was basically do nothing on offense and hope Seattle turns it over.  Not a way to win a game and a very good way to lose, which is exactly what happened.   

As for worst SB, no where close.  I mean even the great Patrick Mahomes has had a horrid SB in the past.  Perhaps you remember the Brady Bucs taking the Chiefs to the woodshed.  Mahomes in that game had 1 TD and 2 INT with a passer rating of 52.3.  Or the year before with Jimmy G and his 69.2 with 2 picks and 1 td and just 219 yards. Mahomes wasn't a lot better in that one with a very similar stat line to Maye i.e. 286 yards, 2 TD, 2 INT, and 2 fumbles (though neither was lost). Passer rating 78.1. Of course Mahomes won that game because Jimmy was awful.  Year before that was the 13-3 Brady/Goff debacle of a SB where they were both bad.  Manning/Newton SB was also a real gem where the QB's combined for 0 TD, 2 INT, 4 fumbles (3 lost),  and 11 sacks.  Manning edged Newton in passer rating 56.6 to 55.4.

Those are in the last 11 years alone.  Maye did not play very well, but neither did Darnold but both were better than a whole host of QB's in the SB in just the last 11 seasons alone, including some of the best to ever play.

Maye was bad when it counted.  He had 48 yards at halftime.  In the second half, he put up some empty stats after being down 19-0, but he also had a fumble and two INTs.  And, visibly, he looked as shook as Stidman out there, panicking and missing throws.

It was a bad performance.  He seemed overwhelmed, and it doesn't help that his shoulder was injured.  He's got a bright career.  But, he sucked on Sunday.
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Patriots / Football / Re: Patriots 2025-26 Season
« Last post by Moranis on Yesterday at 08:18:55 AM »
OL needs a complete overhaul. We knew this before the playoffs.

Wrs, LBs and kickers need upgrading. Feel they are below average units.

DL needs better edge rushers. One sack on Sam Darnold is crazy.

Maye and the secondary are the only things I'm sold on.

You?re sold on Maye even though he didn?t have any good games in the playoffs? He was solid in the regular season, but the competition wasn?t great. Next year will be telling, IMO.

While the quality of teams in the NFL varies, the saying "any given Sunday" is used because every NFL team has a chance to win every Sunday.  Drake Maye played against NFL teams with NFL athletes all season and won 17 out of 21 times. 

The defenses he faced in the playoffs were consistently strong and his offensive line was bad.  That's a disastrous combination. Nonetheless the team won 3 playoff games.  Yes, his performance was not on par with the regular season, but he did what he needed to do to make it to a Super Bowl in his second season.  I think it's more likely he learns from this experience and gets better for it than he was traumatized and will be developmentally stuck.  And since none of us knows for sure what will happen, I guess I just prefer to think he'll be good moving forward than he'll be bad.

I am MUCH more sold on the idea that Maye is at the start, barring injury, of a very successful career than I am sold on the idea that he will forever wilt under pressure.  Show me the other second year QBs in the league today who have won 3 playoff games.  And how many have been to the Super Bowl? Just having had this experience puts him ahead of other young, talented QBs in the league.

I am WAY more concerned about building an offensive line that can protect and run block.  Do that, add a top flight receiver, and I think Pats will be in the mix for SB61.   And Drake will continue to develop, which is the grace afforded every other 23 year old QB.

Drake didn?t win the playoff games, though. The defense and run game did. Darnold isn?t a great QB, but he won that game against the Rams. 3 TDs/356 yards. Drake had zero good games in the postseason. Hopefully he can learn from this and perform better in the postseason. We shall see..
Maye finished 2nd in MVP voting.  You don't just luck into that.

He had a passer rating over 100 in a playoff game this year (with 3 passing TD's in that game) and was better than Darnold in many respects in the SB (better passer rating, nearly 300 yards, 2 TD).  All his games weren't like the Denver game (which mind you was in a snow storm against an elite defense).

Drake was good in the regular season and bad in the playoffs. If you think that he was better than Darnold in the SB, I will have what you are having. Maye had a QBR of 16. It was probably the worst performance I?ve seen in a SB.
Sam completed just 50% of his throws.  He badly missed one many and is pretty lucky to not have thrown multiple picks.  He was off all night, he just didn't turn it over.  There is a reason that Drake had a better passer rating than Sam even with the turnovers.   Neither played particularly well in the SB.

Seattle won because they ran the ball and New England did not.  Seattle stuck with what got them there, NE did not.  The Patriots were significantly out schemed and out coached.  The Pats didn't start to move the ball until the Pats took the training wheels off after the game was basically over.  They clearly didn't trust Drake, but they also forgot to run the ball.  You can't play a conservative passing game if you aren't going to run it (they had just 4 designed runs in the 3rd quarter for 19 yards and 0 in the 4th quarter). NE's game plan was basically do nothing on offense and hope Seattle turns it over.  Not a way to win a game and a very good way to lose, which is exactly what happened.   

As for worst SB, no where close.  I mean even the great Patrick Mahomes has had a horrid SB in the past.  Perhaps you remember the Brady Bucs taking the Chiefs to the woodshed.  Mahomes in that game had 1 TD and 2 INT with a passer rating of 52.3.  Or the year before with Jimmy G and his 69.2 with 2 picks and 1 td and just 219 yards. Mahomes wasn't a lot better in that one with a very similar stat line to Maye i.e. 286 yards, 2 TD, 2 INT, and 2 fumbles (though neither was lost). Passer rating 78.1. Of course Mahomes won that game because Jimmy was awful.  Year before that was the 13-3 Brady/Goff debacle of a SB where they were both bad.  Manning/Newton SB was also a real gem where the QB's combined for 0 TD, 2 INT, 4 fumbles (3 lost),  and 11 sacks.  Manning edged Newton in passer rating 56.6 to 55.4.

Those are in the last 11 years alone.  Maye did not play very well, but neither did Darnold but both were better than a whole host of QB's in the SB in just the last 11 seasons alone, including some of the best to ever play.
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Around the NBA / Re: NBA Season 2025-26
« Last post by Redz on Yesterday at 08:11:17 AM »
Simons with 23/7 on 10-17 shooting tonight for CHI. Bulls lost to the Nets though. And Simons did turn it over 5 times.

Sadly might be his lot in life to be a 20 point scorer on a 20 win team.  Even though he proved he?s perfectly capable of filling it up for a winning team.
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Celtics Talk / Re: Who's the ball handler Brad is speaking of?
« Last post by ozgod on Yesterday at 07:47:01 AM »
Then I would wait.  He is the better of the two and has better stats, and size.  10 day contract it as well if we have to do so.

Harper has plenty of games left on his 2-way to spend the rest of the regular season in Boston, I think. He is most likely going to be offered a full roster spot in April.

Shulga will get an NBA contract first, because we have to sign some money and that somebody can only make rookie money.

Yes they will probably convert Harper to a full time contract on the last day of the season  :police:
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Celtics Talk / Re: Double big issue.
« Last post by ozgod on Yesterday at 07:44:26 AM »
This is the time of the year when teams tinker with their lineups in case certain matchup challenges/opportunities arise in the playoffs.

I agree it doesn?t look great right now, but I also can see a world where it helps stop a run or rebounding disparity in a random series.
You shouldn't tinker against divisional opponents who are one game behind you in the standings. Tinker when you have a lead or play against a bad team. Also any person who has watched these players knows they don't fit double big. This would be experimenting for nothing. It's like saying I need to breath to live but what if I tried stopping, can I some how beat the odds and still live?  It's ridiculous.

Actually I would think this would be the best time to tinker, against a team you are pretty sure you will meet in the playoffs. It's a good time to see if something might work, or how they might react to it. Sometimes you will lose the game due to tinkering, but you learn things that will help you in the playoffs, when the cost of losing is much higher.

As for the two-big lineup, I suspect, aside from tinkering, Joe is trying to work out how he can maximize the personnel he now has. He has swapped a wing for a big and  he wants to know how he can use the three bigs he now has at his disposal, without putting an undue burden on the remaining wings he has. Plus the fact that Hauser (one of the wings) wasn't available so he really only had Walsh and Gonzalez to eat up significant minutes at wing on the bench.

Also, Houston, when we first played Garza and Queta in the starting lineup, shoots 37% from 3. Not as good as NYK, and they shoot 9 less 3s a game, but they're decent shooters. I think the team is trying to work out how to be effective defending the perimeter with such a lineup, whether it's Q and Garza, Q and Vuc, or Vuc and Garza. Better to find out now than to have to do it in the playoffs if a wing gets injured and you have no choice.



I get it, it sucks to lose a game, especially against a team that we might be fighting for for the 2nd seed, but I think Joe (along with some other coaches) are less worried in the specific seeding they end up in than in being as prepared as they can with knowledge when they do get into the playoffs. I think Joe wants more data points so he can have access to more film, so he and the rest of the coaching staff can work out what coverages they could use in a two-big situation, and he's prepared for more losses and angst from the fan base before he discards it  :police:
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Celtics Talk / Re: Celtics News
« Last post by ozgod on Yesterday at 07:33:27 AM »
Shams Charania: Malika, sources tell me Jayson Tatum has started controlled five-on-five scrimmaging with coaches. He has aggressively attacked his rehab at every turn. And listen, there's more boxes for Jayson Tatum to check. There's more phases in his rehab. He's got to practice with the team, of course. And then again, there's also the normal nerve, coming back from an injury of this magnitude, a torn Achilles in May to a really good team that has aspirations for potentially advancing in the playoffs. And Jayson Tatum has made clear to people around him, from my understanding, that he wants to come back as close to Jayson Tatum as Jayson Tatum as possible, not a shell of himself, not a lesser percentage of himself. And the other side of all that is the Celtics medical staff will have to clear him 100% before he can return, and he himself will have to feel 100% confidence and trust in that leg before he makes a potential return this season.

This feels like a non-update type of update.

For the record, this is a commentary on Shams and not your post!

I mean, the fact that JT is scrimmaging, even with coaches seems like a positive update at this point. He?s still moving in the right direction and there haven?t been any setbacks per Brad and Joe.

Yeah, the only thing we've seen of Tatum before this is light shooting workouts alone and with a coach. The fact that he has progressed to [controlled] 5-on-5 seems like a big update. Brad said that he needed to go through a series of progressions before he could come back and this was one of them that he specified. Still has several steps to go, but going from shooting and dribbling in the half court to actually playing in full-court scrimmages is encouraging news.

I agree. He?s scrimmaging. Not sure how people are viewing that as a non-update.

It's probably because I feel like I knew it already before Shams mentioned it, Forsberg and Kayla were talking about it on the Celtics Pre-Game show last week, that he was doing 5-on-5 drills. But for you guys who don't have access to that it's probably newsworthy.

And you didn?t post it here?!  :o

LOL I thought people knew about it already because (to me) it didn't seem a big deal  :police:
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Game Threads / Re: Knicks (33-19) at Celtics (34-18) Game #53 2/8/26
« Last post by tenn_smoothie on Yesterday at 12:37:02 AM »
I know it's a hot take. Most teams aren't winning games when the 3-ball isn't falling. However it's still alarming to me the C's keep jacking them up when they are doing horrible and they choose to die by it. Same thing happened 2023 vs. Miami. Again last year vs. NY in the playoffs. This team has talent and an ability to win without needing the 3s but for some reason they just keep trying. In the 3rd quarter, Jaylen had 13 of the team's 15 points. He did that with mostly twos. Meanwhile it's brick city from everyone else behind the arc and the Knicks won the game that quarter.

I'm still worried it's gonna cost us in the playoffs even when JT returns.

It already has. Just watch Games 1 & 2 vs Knicks last year in playoffs.
Every bit as bad as this game, except Celts gave away huge leads in those.
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Celtics Talk / Re: When do you think Tatum makes his season debut?
« Last post by SparzWizard on February 09, 2026, 10:37:11 PM »
I predict either March 6 in a marquee NBA Finals rematch Mavericks vs Celtics or...

March 18, giving him extra days to get rest and get to host the Golden State Warriors on primetime and he can suddenly explode for 40 points again in his debut  8)
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Around the NBA / Re: NBA Season 2025-26
« Last post by Phantom255x on February 09, 2026, 10:32:11 PM »
Simons with 23/7 on 10-17 shooting tonight for CHI. Bulls lost to the Nets though. And Simons did turn it over 5 times.
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