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Game Threads / Re: Pacers (6-22) at Celtics (17-11) Game #29 12/22/25
« Last post by Donoghus on December 23, 2025, 09:27:25 AM »
Looks like the bench won this game for us.

The bench brought them back. Major cajones by Joe.  They went on a helluva run there in the 3rd quarter and made it within striking distance.
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Game Threads / Re: Pacers (6-22) at Celtics (17-11) Game #29 12/22/25
« Last post by slamtheking on December 23, 2025, 09:24:48 AM »
Woo hoo #18 in the bag .
yes, yes it is - since 2024.

really want #19 in the bag though   ;)
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Celtics Talk / Re: Should Joe consider playing Amari Williams?
« Last post by slamtheking on December 23, 2025, 09:22:17 AM »
I noticed in a few games this year that opposing teams are isolating their taller, good shooting forwards against our smaller Celtic forwards. Sometimes it feels they are taking uncontested layups from 10 feet away because of the height differences.

When this happens, might it be a good idea for Joe to consider inserting a taller, defensive minded Amari into lineup? I realize he's not ready for prime time because of his lack of rebounding awareness. Anyone agree or disagree with trying out this strategy?

You're assuming he will be able to fulfill the task you expect of him at an NBA level. Personally, I think he needs a year in the G-league at least, before he's ready to be put in an NBA game and be expected to contribute. I could be wrong, but I've not seen anything that would suggest otherwise.
agreed.

Williams is "2 years away from being 2 years away".  He's shown nothing in the few minutes he's gotten that he'd contribute anything meaningful to the team this season. 
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Celtics Talk / Re: Praise for Joe
« Last post by Vermont Green on December 23, 2025, 09:03:56 AM »
No, it is you.  It was not just Tatum tearing his Achilles. It was Brown playing the entire postseason on a torn meniscus.  It was Porzingis being a shell of himself with an illness that is still affecting him this year.  It was Holiday missing time in the playoffs with a hamstring and also having some other condition that caused the Blazers to rescind draft picks in a trade.  It was Tatum getting leveled by the Magic and injuring his wrist.  The Celtics were an injured and old team in the playoffs, and faded down the stretch during games.  They bombed threes because they did not have the energy to do much else.

This is all pretty factual, facts that tend to get lost in the drama and emotion of losing games to NYK that BOS probably shouldn't have lost.  That was not a good series for Mazzulla or anyone else, injured or otherwise.  Multiple things can be true at the same time.  Mazzulla shares some of the blame for losing that series.  Just like he deserves credit for the team winning a title the season before.  It is really hard to definitively rate a coach but really easy to blame the coach.  I think Mazzulla has performed at a top 10 level as an NBA coach for his career.  If CotY voting were today, he would probably come in top 3 or higher for this season.
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Celtics Talk / Re: Praise for Joe
« Last post by SCeltic34 on December 23, 2025, 08:54:58 AM »
Agree with Roy, Mazzula deserves strong credit for our play so far.  I say that as someone who has been very critical of him at times.  Last season was a major failure, especially the playoffs.  3rd quarter of game 1 against the Knicks was straight up coaching malpractice after a successful, balanced first half.  It was the most ineffective and idiotic quarter of basketball I've ever seen, employing Joe's rigid 3-point happy philosophy and moving away from what was working.  I'll never forget it, and quite frankly I think Joe helped us squander another title run.  But I digress.  If I'm going to criticize him, I should also praise him when things are going well.

The fact that we're still one of the top defensive teams despite the roster turnover and missing one of our best defenders in Tatum says a lot.  4th in defensive rating as a few games ago IIRC.  Always important to be a good defensive team, so I'm glad that's the emphasis.  The youngsters are developing well.  And the offense has been functioning better than expected while missing Tatum.  So props to Joe, for now.

Yeah, I think Tatum tearing his Achilles squandered the title run. But that?s just me.

It's just you.  We were underachieving pretty much the entire series with the way we were playing and lost in embarrassing fashion twice with him before he got injured.  If we beat the Knicks, it'd have been difficult to beat an Indiana team that was probably better than us despite having less inherent talent, and were definitely better than the Knicks.  Even if we beat Indy, we would have lost to OKC.  They were simply better than we were, and better coached too.

Edit: I guess long story short is Joe failed to get the most out of his roster that year.  The players deserve most of the blame, as they always do when they lose badly, but Joe had no small part in the playoff failure.  IMO the roster that year had all the right personnel to defeat the Knicks and exploit their defensive weaknesses.  Instead we just bombed 3's and died by it, all while putting together a defensive effort that was not reflective of the incredible versatility and talent we possessed.  Squandered.

No, it is you.  It was not just Tatum tearing his Achilles. It was Brown playing the entire postseason on a torn meniscus.  It was Porzingis being a shell of himself with an illness that is still affecting him this year.  It was Holiday missing time in the playoffs with a hamstring and also having some other condition that caused the Blazers to rescind draft picks in a trade.  It was Tatum getting leveled by the Magic and injuring his wrist.  The Celtics were an injured and old team in the playoffs, and faded down the stretch during games.  They bombed threes because they did not have the energy to do much else.

We weren't fully healthy.  I recognize Porzingis' absence from illness.  But to claim we didn't have the energy to do much else?  Let's not make excuses here.  Every team has its nagging injuries come playoff time.

We underperformed under Joe's supervision.  The results speak for itself.  A roster as talented as the C's had shouldn't be exiting in the 2nd round against an inferior opponent.  We also dominated in the playoffs during the title season largely without Porzingis.  We had enough tools and talent.
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Celtics Talk / Re: I Think I Am Aboard The Tank Train Now
« Last post by A Future of Stevens on December 23, 2025, 08:41:02 AM »
I think we have now won too many games to tank.

We could lose the rest of our games and not end up with the worst record.  Probably over a couple of teams.  So yeh.  I?d say tanking isn?t on the agenda. 

Not to mention the team is playing its butt off.

The only shot we would have now, is if Brown and another important starter had injuries that kept them out a month or more. And at that point, we would need Mavericks or Hawks lottery luck to move way up with the flattened odds.
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Celtics Talk / Re: I Think I Am Aboard The Tank Train Now
« Last post by Redz on December 23, 2025, 08:27:19 AM »
I think we have now won too many games to tank.

We could lose the rest of our games and not end up with the worst record.  Probably over a couple of teams.  So yeh.  I?d say tanking isn?t on the agenda. 

Not to mention the team is playing its butt off.
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Movies / Re: What's the Last Movie You Watched?
« Last post by Redz on December 23, 2025, 08:25:17 AM »
If you want some laughs and don?t want to have to think much, go see Fackham Hall.  Very silly, low brow British comedy. 
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Game Threads / Re: Pacers (6-22) at Celtics (17-11) Game #29 12/22/25
« Last post by A Future of Stevens on December 23, 2025, 08:23:20 AM »
Hugo is one of those guys who is going to be underrated nationally because he doesn't score a bunch of points. But if you actually watch the game, he is such a positively impactful player.

He is one helluva rebounder....we have a real winner with the kid.

Hugo still reminds me so much of a young Dan Majerle. That hustle. That never give up mindset. Similar physique and athleticism. No fear. Hard nosed competitor.
I think Brad nailed the pick. Sure, he is a 19 year old, but his comfort level is amazing. You can tell this isn't his first stop in the professional leagues. I can't wait to watch him develop as we contend.
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Celtics Talk / Re: Praise for Joe
« Last post by Celtics2021 on December 23, 2025, 07:58:12 AM »
Agree with Roy, Mazzula deserves strong credit for our play so far.  I say that as someone who has been very critical of him at times.  Last season was a major failure, especially the playoffs.  3rd quarter of game 1 against the Knicks was straight up coaching malpractice after a successful, balanced first half.  It was the most ineffective and idiotic quarter of basketball I've ever seen, employing Joe's rigid 3-point happy philosophy and moving away from what was working.  I'll never forget it, and quite frankly I think Joe helped us squander another title run.  But I digress.  If I'm going to criticize him, I should also praise him when things are going well.

The fact that we're still one of the top defensive teams despite the roster turnover and missing one of our best defenders in Tatum says a lot.  4th in defensive rating as a few games ago IIRC.  Always important to be a good defensive team, so I'm glad that's the emphasis.  The youngsters are developing well.  And the offense has been functioning better than expected while missing Tatum.  So props to Joe, for now.

Yeah, I think Tatum tearing his Achilles squandered the title run. But that?s just me.

It's just you.  We were underachieving pretty much the entire series with the way we were playing and lost in embarrassing fashion twice with him before he got injured.  If we beat the Knicks, it'd have been difficult to beat an Indiana team that was probably better than us despite having less inherent talent, and were definitely better than the Knicks.  Even if we beat Indy, we would have lost to OKC.  They were simply better than we were, and better coached too.

Edit: I guess long story short is Joe failed to get the most out of his roster that year.  The players deserve most of the blame, as they always do when they lose badly, but Joe had no small part in the playoff failure.  IMO the roster that year had all the right personnel to defeat the Knicks and exploit their defensive weaknesses.  Instead we just bombed 3's and died by it, all while putting together a defensive effort that was not reflective of the incredible versatility and talent we possessed.  Squandered.

No, it is you.  It was not just Tatum tearing his Achilles. It was Brown playing the entire postseason on a torn meniscus.  It was Porzingis being a shell of himself with an illness that is still affecting him this year.  It was Holiday missing time in the playoffs with a hamstring and also having some other condition that caused the Blazers to rescind draft picks in a trade.  It was Tatum getting leveled by the Magic and injuring his wrist.  The Celtics were an injured and old team in the playoffs, and faded down the stretch during games.  They bombed threes because they did not have the energy to do much else.
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