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Celtics Talk / Re: Celtics News
« Last post by keevsnick on Today at 05:14:31 AM »
i think its very likely that Tatum knows more about where he and his body is rehab wise than any of us do, if he's having second thoughts maybe its as simple as he isn't sure that whatever he'll come back as will be a net positive for the current Celtics team. Or maybe he just believes that there's a higher chance of returning to 100% of what he once was if he comes back in October, there is some evidence that a longer rehab leads to better outcomes with this injury.

In either case I think he's proven how crazy he is about playing, if he doesn't feel 100% comfortable with it, I'd trust that decision.
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Celtics Talk / Re: Celtics News
« Last post by ozgod on Today at 03:50:11 AM »
Not sure if this warrants a new thread, but I'll keep it here for now and let the Mods move it over into a separate thread if they want.

Chris Haynes reporting late tonight that Tatum is re-evaluating whether to come back at all this season.

Link: https://x.com/ChrisBHaynes/status/2016725126038081966?s=20

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Chris Haynes @ChrisBHaynes ? 1h
Sources: Boston Celtics star Jayson Tatum (Achilles recovery) is re-evaluating his situation and is now considering sitting out the entire 2025-26 season. Final decision has yet to be determined.


I think it?s more that he thinks he might make the team worse before he makes it better and it might affect how they end up if he comes in so late into the season and heading into the playoffs. We are all assuming we?re going to see peak Tatum soon as he gets on the court, but it might take him a month or two to get into his stride and given the team?s been working pretty well without him trying to reintegrate him while he gets his feet back might be disruptive and it's entirely possible they might get worse before they get better, which would put pressure on them given the short time available to integrate him into the team before the playoffs. Plus, expectations immediately get elevated, people expect him to be the Tatum that was a 30ppg/8rpg/5apg first team All-NBA player when he might need a month or two to get back into things. And it disrupts the existing players. I think that's what he's talking about when he says this:

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?That?s something I contemplate every day,? Tatum said on ?The Pivot Podcast? when asked how much he thinks about how he will fit back in when he returns. ?More so about the team. If or when I do come back this season, they will have played 50 some-odd games without me, so they have an identity this year or things that they?ve felt have clicked for them. And it?s been successful. They?re the (second) team in the East up to this point.

?So there is a thought in my head, like, how does that work? Or how does that look with me integrating myself off the injury ? 50, 60 games into a season? There obviously could be some challenges. And it is a thought: Do I come back? Should I wait? It?s something that I honestly, recently, in the last two weeks or so just kind of contemplate every single day.?

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/7004155/2026/01/28/jayson-tatum-celtics-return-nba/

And let's be honest - fans are transactional. We want results. Probably for the first few games we will be sympathetic to the fact that he's come back from a difficult injury, but after the first few losses with him there the narrative will shift to "is he done for good? he looks useless...how come KD came back the same but he hasn't...we're better off without him...he's ruining our chances to win the East...etc.". And the fact that there might be a kernel of truth in those - we *are* playing well with him, and adding him to the mix elevates the team, but only if he is "peak Jayson Tatum" not "recovering Jayson Tatum".
 
If he comes in at the start of the season, with a full training camp behind him and with the entire team starting from a fresh slate, it?s less disruptive. It?s a thoughtful, considered, team first take from Jayson which comes as no surprise as he's always been a team first player.
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Celtics Talk / Re: Celtics News
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Celtics Talk / Re: Celtics News
« Last post by Jiri Welsch on Today at 12:34:42 AM »
Not sure if this warrants a new thread, but I'll keep it here for now and let the Mods move it over into a separate thread if they want.

Chris Haynes reporting late tonight that Tatum is re-evaluating whether to come back at all this season.

Link: https://x.com/ChrisBHaynes/status/2016725126038081966?s=20

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Chris Haynes @ChrisBHaynes ? 1h
Sources: Boston Celtics star Jayson Tatum (Achilles recovery) is re-evaluating his situation and is now considering sitting out the entire 2025-26 season. Final decision has yet to be determined.
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Celtics Talk / Re: Celtics News
« Last post by slightly biased bias fan on Today at 12:09:32 AM »
The Chicago Bulls reportedly offered Nikola Vučević to the Celtics for Anfernee Simons and a first-round pick, but Boston declined, per Mike Scotto
 
For example, earlier this season, well before Boston surged into second place in the East, the Chicago Bulls inquired on the possibility of trading center Nikola Vucevic for Simons and a Celtics first-round pick, which would have lowered the Celtics tax bill, but the Celtics were not interested, league sources told HoopsHype.
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Around the NBA / Re: Allen Iverson Snubs Sick Kids
« Last post by bdm860 on Yesterday at 11:53:37 PM »
I am not defending Iverson, that is atrocious behavior.

How does a 12 year old know know Allen Iverson was?  He quit playing in 2013.  I am just curious.

I hope your brother wins his fight against ALCL lymphoma and I am sorry he had a negative experience.  I am not the praying kind but I will send him some positive thoughts.

This was my thought when I heard this story.

Speaking from experience, I actually was a Make-a-Wish kid back in '98-'99, and meeting Iverson was on my short list of wishes I was considering (I also contemplated trying to cram 2 wishes into one, and thought about trying to wish to do a Sixers/Celtics games so I could meet Iverson and the Celtics).

Now I was in high school at the time, but for 98/99 that would be like getting to meet David Thompson or George Gervin or Pete Maravich, I knew a little about them, but not much. Even if it was Larry Bird or Kevin McHale, that would be cool, but it wouldn't excite me like getting to meet Antoine Walker or Ron Mercer would have.  And that's basketball-obsessed-high-school-aged-me, it would be even worse if they tried to have me meet those guys at 12 years old.

That being said, the 12-year old sick kids story still makes sense (though that part is played up for feels/clicks), as being a sick kid, you do get a few opportunities to meet random celebs. They ask you, do you want to meet a D-list celebrity? So you sign up, and the hospital staff and your parents probably hype it up for a couple of weeks, day arrives, you go to the spot, told it's going to be a half hour wait, then 2-3 hours later, you're told you're not getting anything. Ya it sucks for the kids, you got excited and wasted your time for nothing, but I doubt they were dying to meet him.
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Transaction Ideas and Rumors / Re: Looks like Giannis will be on the move
« Last post by jpotter33 on Yesterday at 10:09:28 PM »
While better packages are certainly out there with younger stars, Brown is still young enough and has made enough of a name for himself the past few seasons that I think he could work as a centerpiece. Remember, Milwaukee is a small market team that is just as interested at staying relevant/competitive and putting butts in the seat as they are doing a true tear down and rebuild for the future, especially given that they don't really have and/or control their picks for the next four years. So bottoming out doesn't necessarily make them better now.

Something built around Brown, Hugo, and 2-3 1st round picks/swaps would likely be able to get it done in the summer, and give them a replacement marketable star, a burgeoning two-way prospect, and draft capital with possible potential, though I'm not sure if he will last that long past the deadline. If we were confident in Giannis' health and Tatum coming back in February/March, I'd possibly be interested in a bigger deal at the deadline to fill multiple needs, something like:

Boston: Giannis, Turner, Trent Jr.

Milwaukee: Brown, Simons, Hugo, 2030 1st, 2031 1st Swap, 2032 1st

That'd leave us with the following lineup:

PG: PP, Trent Jr.
SG: White, Scheierman
SF: Tatum, Hauser, Walsh
PF: Giannis, Garza
C: Turner, Queta, Amari

Still not sure I would do that for several reasons. First, JB has earned some loyalty, and while this would give him his own team to serve as the primary star of, I'm not sure how thrilled he be about this. Second, I'm not sure about Giannis' injury history and how well he will age. Third, Tatum is best suited (especially post-injury) as a long-term 4, which is the same spot as Giannis. Can they coexist together well enough to make it work on both ends? It does bring some *enticing* small ball possibilities, but you'd ideally want to see how Tatum looks coming back first before making that kind of move.
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Game Threads / Re: Hawks (23-25) at Celtics (29-17) Game #47 1/28/26
« Last post by tenn_smoothie on Yesterday at 10:00:21 PM »
Team looked and played tired. It happens, though I'd like to see our top guys playing less minutes. No need to add wear and tear to our players during a year we are not going to win the title anyway. Keep developing the younger guys and plan for next season. Winning another title or two with Tatum/Brown should be our ONLY priority and should guide all decisions, both during games and when constructing the roster.
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Game Threads / Re: Hawks (23-25) at Celtics (29-17) Game #47 1/28/26
« Last post by ozgod on Yesterday at 09:52:40 PM »
This might be the first game of the season where we were never in it from the start, and probably our worst loss in terms of the margin. Maybe the Houston game? Every other game we've fought and been in the contest. That has to be the most disappointing aspect for Joe, that we were never in it. But a solid teaching moment at least.
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Game Threads / Re: Hawks (23-25) at Celtics (29-17) Game #47 1/28/26
« Last post by liam on Yesterday at 09:52:07 PM »
Who are refs taking orders from through those head sets?
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