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Celtics Talk / Re: Does This Celtics Season Prove Old Argument?
« Last post by Phantom255x on Today at 12:22:53 PM »
There's a reason no one is picking the Celtics to come out of the East WITHOUT Tatum. The Jays work together and raise the overall ceiling a lot. Even if Tatum was playing healthy now and Jaylen was the one missing, it'd be similar. Most of our favorable odds in the East is because of the idea that Tatum is returning probably in March.
You need talent to win championships, no one denies that, but that doesn't mean Tatum and Brown are a good fit.  They are not.  They basically have the same skill set and operate on the same places on the floor. They are duplicative.  They are talented and can make it work, but that doesn't make them good fits. And we are seeing enough games where one plays and the other doesn't, where not only are the stats better, the efficiency is also better. I believe that is the case because they have more room to operate and they aren't worried about the other guy.  They can play their own game better. I truly believe if they weren't both SF's they'd win more, especially if one of them was a true big man (of equal skill but a skill set more appropriate for a different position).

You're probably not wrong. I have just seen so many "superteams" and superstar duos elsewhere that have struggled or didn't mix and then one guy either asked out or got traded soon after. Or the team underachieved big time.

I think a Tatum pairing with an elite big man like Jokic obviously would raise the ceiling even more. But that's Jokic and there's not many big men like that nor are they available. AD and Sabonis to me aren't that either even though I love Sabonis. 
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Celtics Talk / Re: Our bigs going forward
« Last post by boscel33 on Today at 12:14:23 PM »
Yeah, I'm on:

Might have the bruiser, check out what Amari is doing in the G-League, 18PPG/11RPG.  In 2024, he was a 4-star Transfer prospect signing with Kentucky.  He averaged 11PPG and 8.5RPG in 22.8MPG at Kentucky where they lost in the sweet sixteen.
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Celtics Talk / Re: Does This Celtics Season Prove Old Argument?
« Last post by Redz on Today at 12:08:40 PM »
It will be very interesting to see how Tatum integrates back into this mix. 
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Transaction Ideas and Rumors / Re: Zion
« Last post by SHAQATTACK on Today at 11:59:42 AM »
I would like  ;D;D to see him in shows wrestling a Gorilla . 
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Transaction Ideas and Rumors / Re: Zion
« Last post by CFAN38 on Today at 11:51:50 AM »
Pass on Zion, his record of staying healthy is awful

Playing devils advocate health/weight is why the idea of trading for Zion is even slightly possible. If he averaged 65 games a season and stayed a consistent 260 lbs he is a 1st team all nba mainstay.

The game on Zion is a gamble on the next championship. If a healthy closing roster of Tatum, Brown, Zion, White and Pritchard/Wing player is possible I think the rest of the NBA struggles to figure out defending that in a 7 game series.

Hypothetically think of OKC matching up with that lineup.
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Celtics Talk / Re: Our bigs going forward
« Last post by aefgogreen on Today at 11:24:45 AM »
This is the first chance I had to watch highlights. He has some skills. I think they will translate to the NBA. I don?t know how you aren?t excited about this guy.

We are currently selling plots on Amari Williams island for reasonable amounts. Come and get your land before its sold out!

I think I'm the only living here so far.

I will put down a deposit for that, not a full commitment.  We are talking about a 2nd round pick so expectations have to be calibrated accordingly.  I am not getting my hopes up really high, I would be more than satisfied if he ended up somewhere in the range of Kornet/RWilliams.  That is all.  And based on the highlights, I see that as within reach.

Highlights distort things like shooting as highlights only show makes.  But for things like running the floor, seeing the floor, smooth hands, dribbling at full speed, length, the kind of "can't teach" things, what you see on the highlights is real.  I had no idea that Amari Williams had the kind of raw materials that he has.

The highlights showed him making (1) 3-point shot, and it was ugly.  Looked more like a shot put throw than a basketball shot.  He is a long way from developing anything close to NBA shooting touch.  But Kornet and Williams couldn't shoot either.  Both understood and accepted their roles and contributed.  I am optimistic that Amari can do the same.

We do not do deposits, but I will sell you a timeshare on the island. You can come and enjoy it for a few weeks out of the year.

If you abandoned your reasonableness, I'd be willing to let you put a deposit down. But this island is not a place for reason.

:)

We may be accepting bids again for plots on Amari Williams Island soon! Express your interest here.
I would definitely sign up for a tour.
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Transaction Ideas and Rumors / Re: Zion
« Last post by Goldstar88 on Today at 11:10:48 AM »
Zion's problem has often been liking his plate better than his sport.   I too, don't think he would be a good idea for the health reasons.   I heard he is down to 264 this year but that is still a lot for  6'6" guy.

He looks fit this year. I think 260lbs is probably about right if you look at his body type. He?s not built like Jaylen Brown who is the same height, but weighs 223lbs.

Zion looks really good. When he plays, that is.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Pk0tzvU3-70&pp=ygUPemlvbiB3aWxsaWFtc29u
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Celtics Talk / Re: Celtics News
« Last post by Celtics2021 on Today at 10:46:53 AM »
Interesting tidbit I noticed on Reddit:

Teams with the best Plus/Minus Per Game in the last 15 games this season :
    Boston Celtics  +9.7
    Detroit Pistons +9.3
    Oklahoma City Thunder +7.3
    Los Angeles Clippers  +7.1
    Phoenix Suns  +6.9
    Golden State Warriors  +6.4
    Minnesota Timberwolves  +6.1
    Charlotte Hornets  +4.2
    Cleveland Cavaliers +3.5
    San Antonio Spurs  +3.1

Do you think this makes Brad think twice about swinging for a big trade? Were playing really well and winning but I also read somewhere that we?re not as good against above 500 teams? Trade deadline can?t come any sooner.

We are 14-12 against teams that are .500 and better, which does not sound awesome but is still second in the East behind Detroit, and 6th in the NBA.  We have the 2nd best record in the East an 6th best record overall, so our record against winning teams mirrors our overall position.  And only 7 teams overall are above .500 against winning teams, so we are definitely still a contender by that measure.
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Amari with a nice game...9pts,7rebs,1assist,1steal,2blcks.

Yep.  He looked like a legit backup center.
admittedly I didn't think he'd be able to contribute much until the 27-28 season but he looks like he could add some decent bench depth as soon as next year.  I think he still needs some real improvement in his touch around the basket (he's no Garza) but for the most part, his rebounding was decent and his D ranged from good to out of position but wasn't horrid.
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Celtics Talk / Re: Celtics News
« Last post by radiohead on Today at 10:27:50 AM »
Interesting tidbit I noticed on Reddit:

Teams with the best Plus/Minus Per Game in the last 15 games this season :
    Boston Celtics  +9.7
    Detroit Pistons +9.3
    Oklahoma City Thunder +7.3
    Los Angeles Clippers  +7.1
    Phoenix Suns  +6.9
    Golden State Warriors  +6.4
    Minnesota Timberwolves  +6.1
    Charlotte Hornets  +4.2
    Cleveland Cavaliers +3.5
    San Antonio Spurs  +3.1

Do you think this makes Brad think twice about swinging for a big trade? Were playing really well and winning but I also read somewhere that we?re not as good against above 500 teams? Trade deadline can?t come any sooner.
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