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Game Threads / Re: Magic (10-7) at Celtics (8-8) Game #17 11/23/25
« Last post by ozgod on Today at 05:00:53 AM »
Just finished watching.  can't believe they let it get that close down the stretch but JB hanging tough down the stretch for them. 

hoping Q is able to go for the next game or this team is going to really struggle

It's hard because we compare them to the championship level team we had the past several years...but this team is largely scrubs, other than JB, White and PP and to a lesser extent Sam. And PP and White have not had to do as much heavy lifting in the team in the past as they have this year. In past years they could play mediocre, maybe not turn up 100% focused, but because they had JT, JB and KP as the main lifters, then they had the likes of Al and Jrue, even if they gave up a 20 point lead they had the quality to still win (and remember they didn't always win either).

Now, the margins are much thinner, but the expectations on everyone are bigger too. Including guys like Walsh, Minott, Queta, Garza, Gonzalez, these guys are trying to carve out regular roles in the team, they don't have the life experiences that JB and the others had to go through to learn. They're just trying to make sure they do what Joe wants them to do, they're not thinking "we need to stop this Magic run", they're thinking "I have to defend Franz, make sure he doesn't have any open shots". Jaylen, DW and PP are the ones that have to manage the game and make sure their teammates just win each moment without complicating their lives.

Personally, I've managed to reset my expectations of the team, I know there's going to be a lot of screw ups, we will tear our hairs out with some of the things they do, because they're learning and in a normal Celtics year we wouldn't be relying on these guys, but we're trying to see who sticks next year and who doesn't. Somehow I've managed to achieve a nirvana where my expectations of them are low enough that I'm not upset if they screw up because of inexperience, it's more of a scientific curiosity I have to see how they respond to the increased responsibility  :police:
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Patriots / Football / Re: NFL 2025-26 Season
« Last post by SparzWizard on Today at 12:30:20 AM »
Notable mentions this week:

-KC rallied from 20-9 and stunned the Colts in overtime.
-Ravens have reclaimed the AFC North with their victory over the Jets and Steelers loss to the Bears.
-Jameis Winston with over 300 passing yards and 25 receiving yards in a game since Tom Brady against the Eagles in the regular season
-Geno Smith was sacked a record 10 times this game as Raiders' OC Chip Kelley also sacked with his job; NFL Black Monday starting off early this year.
-Eagles blew a 21-0 lead to Dak Prescott and the Cowboys at Jerry World.
-Bucs look like pretenders now while LA Rams look like true contenders in the NFL.
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Game Threads / Re: Magic (10-7) at Celtics (8-8) Game #17 11/23/25
« Last post by Celtics2021 on Today at 12:16:42 AM »
Always feels good to win, but Brown and White do not need to be playing 35+ minutes this year. There's no money in it for us.
I still think Tatum's excess minutes every season (along with off-season activities) directly contributed to his Achilles injury.

Jaylen is averaging 32.4 minutes, his lowest since the 2018-2019 season, so I do not exactly get this comment.  White is playing 32.9 per game, which is less than last year as well.
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Game Threads / Re: Magic (10-7) at Celtics (8-8) Game #17 11/23/25
« Last post by tenn_smoothie on Today at 12:05:56 AM »
Always feels good to win, but Brown and White do not need to be playing 35+ minutes this year. There's no money in it for us.
I still think Tatum's excess minutes every season (along with off-season activities) directly contributed to his Achilles injury.
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Game Threads / Re: Magic (10-7) at Celtics (8-8) Game #17 11/23/25
« Last post by slamtheking on Yesterday at 09:38:43 PM »
Just finished watching.  can't believe they let it get that close down the stretch but JB hanging tough down the stretch for them. 

hoping Q is able to go for the next game or this team is going to really struggle
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Game Threads / Re: Magic (10-7) at Celtics (8-8) Game #17 11/23/25
« Last post by Neurotic Guy on Yesterday at 08:58:40 PM »
Just finished watching. JB was terrific in the fourth.  I like Simons.  Minott had a great stretch early.  White continues to surprise me. He?s making uncharacteristic mistakes with the ball.  Hope Q is ok.
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Around the NBA / Re: CP3 officially retiring after season
« Last post by Moranis on Yesterday at 08:51:27 PM »
He is behind Magic, Oscar, and Stockton in the all time PG hierarchy but I think you could argue him as high as 4.  I have Thomas 4 and Kidd 5 with Paul 6, but I think you could argue those spots and not sound like a crazy person.

Where is Steph Curry? Are you excluding from PG rankings? Considering him as a SG or combo guard rather than PG?
I never know where to put him positionallly.  If he is a PG he'd be 2nd behind Magic. I suppose the same is also true of Oscar positonally
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Game Threads / Re: Magic (10-7) at Celtics (8-8) Game #17 11/23/25
« Last post by radiohead on Yesterday at 08:41:34 PM »
So what do we make of the Magic? I thought they'd be a Top-3 or 4 team in the East tbh but they absolutely haven't looked like it. Do they need more time for chemistry?

I think Bane needs to learn to play with Paolo and Franz. I see a similarity when we had Smart/JT/JB. All three wanted the ball in their hands. Plus they?re still missing Mo Wagner who?s an integral part of their bench.
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