I said almost every Patriots game was a trap game minus the games they were underdogs in but...this one definitely is the trap game!!!!

Pats with another slow start today, just punting the balls away.

3-0 Cincy

Yeah, not a good start.  Maye with 1 (maybe 2) inaccurate passes.  Wilson out.

Man I know it would never happen, but I would love the Celtics to trade for Donovan Clingan.

The guy keeps improving and has already added a three point shot to his repertoire. Clingan has a 7-7 wingspan and the potential to be an elite shot blocker.

He is behind Magic, Oscar, and Stockton in the all time PG hierarchy but I think you could argue him as high as 4.  I have Thomas 4 and Kidd 5 with Paul 6, but I think you could argue those spots and not sound like a crazy person.

Where is Steph Curry? Are you excluding from PG rankings? Considering him as a SG or combo guard rather than PG?

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Who the heck is LaMelo to want out!?

He has only played in 60% of their games this season. He has only played in 105 games in the past 3 seasons combined. His inability to stay on the court is the biggest reason for how bad they are. His unwillingness to play fundamental team ball is the 2nd biggest reason for their struggles. Sort your own backyard first. Then complain about what the team is or isn't doing.

The Hornets are significantly better when Ball plays then when he doesn't. So his health is a major concern, but his ability doesn't seem to hold them back at all, it is in fact the opposite.  They need him to play simply because they are much better when he does.  Though much better just takes them from awful to bad.  They've done a pretty bad job putting talent around Ball.  The hope was Miller, but he is more injury prone than Ball. Knueppel looks solid, but he is also another 6'7" guy (Ball and Bridges both 6'7" and Miller is 6'9" but plays smaller).  No true PG on the roster.  Poor to mediocre at best big men for years.  The Hornets are just poorly managed.  I'd want out also.

How is Lamelo not a true PG? He runs their offense and averages 10ast per game.

So does Luka.  So does Jokic.  Heck Lebron once led the league in apg.  None of those guys are true PG's either and neither is LaMelo.  He doesn't have the ball handling skills and he will never be able to defend the position because he isn't quick enough.  He is an excellent passer, but a true PG he is not.

Lamelo has played PG at every level. High school, overseas and in the NBA. He has very good ball handling skills. What does defense have to do with being a PG?

if you can't defend the position at all you can't be that position.  White can guard the position though so you could play Ball and White together and be fine.