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Food for thought-Keep the current top eight players intact. Trade a star player for several number one picks. Something akin to the Pierce/Garnett trade that Ainge pulled off. Solves the money issues and keeps a contender.

So, dump Tatum?

We would get oh so many picks. . . and be cursed forever.

Let's p--- off an entire city & fanbase.

You trade Stares for pics when your team isn?t good anymore. You don?t do that when the team is good. This is a terrible idea. Maybe trade Tatum for a different star, but not for draft picks.

Trading Tatum right now would be worse than the Mavs trading Doncic, and that's saying something because that Doncic trade was horrifically bad and one of the worst ALL-TIME in all sports.

I don?t think anyone is serious about trading JT. But just to make it in the realm of something to consider, it would need to be JT for Giannis or Jokic. Can?t think of anyone else. SGA would meet the talent requirement but would still be needing bigs.

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Food for thought-Keep the current top eight players intact. Trade a star player for several number one picks. Something akin to the Pierce/Garnett trade that Ainge pulled off. Solves the money issues and keeps a contender.

So, dump Tatum?

We would get oh so many picks. . . and be cursed forever.

Let's p--- off an entire city & fanbase.

You trade Stars for picks when your team isn?t good anymore. You don?t do that when the team is still good. This is a terrible idea. Maybe trade Tatum for a different star, but not for draft picks.

Personally I'm with Moranis, I was also stunned that with 12 seconds to go, they just let Lamar go back two yards and take a knee, then let 8 seconds run off the clock before calling a timeout.

Yes in this age of kicking, kickers seem to be automatic even from 55-60 yards. But still, Acrisure Stadium is a tough place to kick for anyone and you also have to account for the pressure in that situation. A potential game winner, where a miss also loses you the game on the road? Not easy for a young kicker. And this is a young kicker, not Justin Tucker in his prime.

Sure, it's still a 44 yarder that should be made, and there is the risk of a fumble. But I mean, there's 12 seconds. It's not like there's less than 7 seconds and a risk that the time will expire. Plus I'm sure Ravens fans remember the Billy Cundiff moment very well. It was a 42 yarder before Lamar kneed two yards back, so in theory a few more yards and carry by Henry and it's probably a 35-37 yard attempt instead of 44 if you factor that all in.

Quote from: Moranis on Yesterday at 09:40:21 PM

I think the Holiday trade was pretty good value and getting younger and healthier is never a bad thing.  I mean Jrue has played just 12 games for the Blazers.  I mean for a 35 year old in year 17, I'm not sure you could expect health, so I really liked that move. 

Given KP's health issues, moving off of him was also a good move, it was just the salary dump parts of that trade I didn't like.  Like sending Mann and 22 to the Nets and then later trading Niang and 2 seconds for RJ Luis. I understand why those trades were made for cap purposes, but I'd have rather kept and used 22.

Sorry, what is the "22 to the Nets" you are referring to?

the Hawks pick from the draft, pick 22.  That is what the Nets got for taking on Mann's salary.

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Boswell hadn't missed an extra point in 4 years and yet he literally just missed one.  The season on the line on a cold windy night in Pittsburgh.  Every yard matters.

Boswell's kick got blocked. 

And, if your kicker can't hit a 44 yard field goal, he shouldn't be in the NFL.  There's no need to risk a fumble to gain another yard or two.  And, again, that kick would have missed from 30 yards.  He would have missed from 42, or 40, or 38.  He choked.

But that choke had real consequences, as Harbaugh has been fired.

About time they fired him. Now Mike Tomlin is the longest tenured head coach in the NFL for a single team. Yikes.

Tomlin has been longest tenured coach since Bill left NE. He was hired 1 year before Harbaugh was.

Harbaugh's agent has said within 45 minutes of the news 7 teams reached out, there are only 6 other openings at moment.