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Around the NBA / Re: NBA Summer League 2025
« Last post by Goldstar88 on Today at 05:12:57 PM »
Coop!
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Around the NBA / Re: NBA Summer League 2025
« Last post by Who on Today at 05:12:08 PM »
I like the way Carter Bryant handles the ball. Confident. Comfortable. Handles the ball like a guard.

Good defense on Flagg too.
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I'll say 8th, assuming they keep Simons.  I'm not sure they will, though.

Yeah, I'm assuming they're keeping Simons with my 9th/10th prediction. If they salary dump him and bring back a player or players that can't play, it may look more like 12th, only ahead of CHI, WAS, and BKN. Yes, I would even have CHA over them. Crazy that I'm putting that much on Simons' shoulders, but he is kind-of the make or break guy for me.

I just don't see White, Pritchard and Brown dogging it or sitting out excessive number of games in the middle of the year at this point in their careers (I obviously could see Simons doing that cause he has done it his whole career). It is a lot different to shut down a player like Lauri Markanaan that has never been in the playoffs or players like Paul George where there is potentially really significant benefit in having him miss time instead of limping into 8th seed last year. I also think we are going to hear reports that Tatum is ramping up activity in like February which would make it even more difficult to tank.

Agreed.  JB isn?t good for 80 games, but he played two months with a torn meniscus last year, so he also just is not going to sit for the heck of it.  White and Pritchard will both go 82 games if you let them, and White has incentive for 70 games, so he is not going to sit to help the team get a draft pick.

I think the team is going to hover around the 6th or 7th seed this year, barring major injuries.  If Tatum won?t make it to the playoffs I could see them starting a mid-March tank to get towards the top 10 and hope for lottery luck, especially if they are looking like a 9 or 10 seed, but no one in this organization likes losing and they aren?t going to do it on purpose or even half on purpose.
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Around the NBA / Re: NBA Summer League 2025
« Last post by Goldstar88 on Today at 04:33:24 PM »
Dylan Harper is sick.
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I'll say 8th, assuming they keep Simons.  I'm not sure they will, though.

Yeah, I'm assuming they're keeping Simons with my 9th/10th prediction. If they salary dump him and bring back a player or players that can't play, it may look more like 12th, only ahead of CHI, WAS, and BKN. Yes, I would even have CHA over them. Crazy that I'm putting that much on Simons' shoulders, but he is kind-of the make or break guy for me.

I just don't see White, Pritchard and Brown dogging it or sitting out excessive number of games in the middle of the year at this point in their careers (I obviously could see Simons doing that cause he has done it his whole career). It is a lot different to shut down a player like Lauri Markanaan that has never been in the playoffs or players like Paul George where there is potentially really significant benefit in having him miss time instead of limping into 8th seed last year. I also think we are going to hear reports that Tatum is ramping up activity in like February which would make it even more difficult to tank.

The team as currently constructed is pretty bad. We lost 5 rotation players this offseason (including Tatum) and only brought in 1. And the Tatum loss is monumental.

If Brad manages to balance the team better (by bringing in a starting level big), then I can see us sneaking into the playoffs - especially if Tatum makes his way back and Lillard signs. But if we have guys sitting out here and there, our depth is absolutely abysmal. We will need to see major jumps from guys like Queta, Baylor, and Garza. And guys like Pritchard and Hauser will need to prove to be good starters.
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I'll say 8th, assuming they keep Simons.  I'm not sure they will, though.

Yeah, I'm assuming they're keeping Simons with my 9th/10th prediction. If they salary dump him and bring back a player or players that can't play, it may look more like 12th, only ahead of CHI, WAS, and BKN. Yes, I would even have CHA over them. Crazy that I'm putting that much on Simons' shoulders, but he is kind-of the make or break guy for me.

I just don't see White, Pritchard and Brown dogging it or sitting out excessive number of games in the middle of the year at this point in their careers (I obviously could see Simons doing that cause he has done it his whole career). It is a lot different to shut down a player like Lauri Markanaan that has never been in the playoffs or players like Paul George where there is potentially really significant benefit in having him miss time instead of limping into 8th seed last year. I also think we are going to hear reports that Tatum is ramping up activity in like February which would make it even more difficult to tank.
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Around the NBA / Re: NBA Summer League 2025
« Last post by Who on Today at 04:20:11 PM »
That little guy for Dallas looks tiny. Did the announcer say Nembhard?

Update: Ryan Nembhard. Brother of Pacers guard Andrew Nembhard. He stands 6-0. Playing against Dylan Harper at a muscular 6-6. He dwarfes little Ryan Nembhard. It doesn't look like the little guy has great speed to make up for his lack of size either. Average speed with small size. Bad mix.
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Around the NBA / Re: NBA Summer League 2025
« Last post by Who on Today at 04:14:10 PM »
Cooper Flagg vs Dylan Harper = on right now. Just started.
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Hugo is so raw. There is no way he?s playing for the C?s this year. It?s Spain or Maine.

Disagree

How? He doesn?t look good on either end. Looks OK on defense, wouldn?t say good. Terrible offensively. Can?t shoot at all.

You are just wrong here. He's made 2 threes so far. You can't say "Can't shoot at all" when he's made 2 threes.

And his defense on Jaylen Wells has forced 1-6 shooting with 2 TOs. So his defense has been good.

He?s 3-11 from the field.  1-5 from the line. Like I said. :laugh:

1st game.  Not much practice time.  I guess if you have a bad game in summer league you wont be successful.  I guess that means Cooper Flagg should be traded by the Mavs because he was really bad in his first game.  Same with Ace Bailey.  Utah may want to stash him overseas. 

The over reaction t9 a summer league game is laughable.  Summer league is ugly basketball.  A bunch of players basically playing pick up basketball after 3 days of practices.

The good

Baylor can fill up a stat sheet.  He's better as an off ball shooter.  He can do a little bit of everything.  Im excited for Baylor this year.  He crashes the boards.  4 assists.  His shot will fall.  That part doesn't worry me about him.

Walsh looked like the best player on the Cs today.  He played under control for the most part.  He got a little aggressive on D a few times and got beat but so did most of the players on both sides.  His shot looks even more improved.  Good star for Walsh compared to last year.

Hugo is going to be exciting.  His shot looks decent.  His energy, hustle and tenacity are awesome.  He looked better then a late 1st round pick.  Can't want to see what he looks like in March after some run in Maine and practice against JB.  Definitely nerves in this game.  Couldn't hit a FT.

Amari he doesn't look lost like so many posters said he would.  NBA athlete.  I think hes going to be a rotational big for the Cs and in year 2 he will be a Luke Kornet type player.

Max - I was surprised he was running point.  He looked lost and tentative.  He may be a Anton Watson type where he doesn't last a full year with the cs.

Bassey was a surprise addition.  He looked good but should based on his NBA experience.  I like Amari better

Bad

The cs couldn't hit a layup to save their lives.  Should have won this game by 30

Turnovers were bad which they usually are in SL.  With no real playmaker this team will struggle at times


3 years in the European league, career averages: 41% from the field, 27% from 3pt. It?s not just one summer league game. He?s a really poor shooter.
hugo averaged 10.7 minutes a game in the world's second best pro league. a league that virtually never gives young players time or let's them develop though game time.

3 years in the euopean league. right, but remember his first year he was 16 years old...and played in the second best pro league in the world.

way too many predictions on way to few data points by way too many people. let's give each of these guys a year or so before predicting their entire future performances please.

BUT most of all, thank you to all the posters who let me "see" a game i could not watch and provide insights into our newest baby celtics.
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