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For the record what adjusts do you want to see Game 5?
« on: May 07, 2019, 12:53:47 PM »

Offline Csfan1984

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It's do or die. How would you adjust the line up or game plan? Hers some of the stuff I want to see

Start Irving, Brown, Morris, Horford, Baynes.
Rotation first half is Smart, Hayward, Tatum, and Theis

Hayward not doing well first half bench him for Semi.

Smart not doing well bench him and play Irving max minutes. NO Rozier. I'd take Hayward at the PG before Rozier.

Theis struggles go to Semi in the role.

No Rozier the whole game. He gave us nothing this year it's do or die don't play him.

If you are under 30% shooting the three commit to crashing the boards with the PG, PF and Center every shot. Have the other guys sprint back with one on ball one at rim strategy.

Run pick and roll to death with Irving and Horford.

Trap more to keep Irving off the Bucks bigs.


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« Reply #1 on: May 07, 2019, 12:57:07 PM »

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Better effort for the whole game and belief in their teammates. Quick hook for Rozier/Smart/Hayward. Not sure what else there is to adjust as they've tried most of their wrinkles and the Bucks just keep running the same actions at us and kicking but with them.

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« Reply #2 on: May 07, 2019, 01:00:18 PM »

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Use Baynes/Semi as reinforcement on double teams and use their strength to wear out Giannis.

Don't even bother using Rozier... Use Hayward as either main PG/facilitator off 2nd unit, he's better when the ball is in his hands.

Use pick and roll more with Horford and Kyrie. Jaylen and Jayson must try to drive, draw fouls, follow the footsteps of what Mook did.

Also try to make quicker closeouts...

ALSO STOP SHOOTING THE FREAKING 3'S, IF IT ISN'T WORKING!

Irving needs to stop playing hero ball, plus PASS THE BALL.

Irving got blocked one time trying to drive inside with 3 defenders, and I literally almost screamed at how stupid that was...

Bledsoe had like 3-4 chase down blocks...

Tatum also had tunnel vision, and one point was doing the same thing as Irving, but should've just passed it out of the double team...
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Irving
Smart
Brown
Horford
Williams

That is what I want


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A whole new offense where guys move off the ball and cut to the rim instead standing around waiting for kick out 3's to miss.
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« Reply #5 on: May 07, 2019, 01:22:19 PM »

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Irving
Smart
Brown
Horford
Williams

That is what I want

Problem with starting Williams is that he's way too raw and inexperienced... This isn't like NCAA, where you can start rookies or freshmen, and see if they can blossom under pressure...

That being said in a few years, Williams seems like the prototypical center that could switch on perimeter scorers, or block and make life tough for athletic wings ala Clint Capela or DAJ.
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« Reply #6 on: May 07, 2019, 01:27:09 PM »

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Start Kyrie/Brown/Morris/Horford/Baynes

Put some more muscle into the starting lineup and stay on Giannis like white on rice. Triple team him if you have to.

Kyrie needs to defer to his teammates more.

Jaylen has been one of the few bright spots to me in this series. He's become more aggressive, attacking the basket and has become a better 3 point shooter.

Let Hayward run the 2nd unit with Tatum, Ojeleye, Theis and Rob Williams. Let Rozier rot on the bench and don't even bother playing Smart. Seriously, playing him doesn't really accomplish anything as he's clearly not ready to return and simply rushed back and made a cameo appearance last night just to give the team a rush of energy (not his fault.)

Use Brad Wannamaker if need be. If the Celts do this or something similar in the context of the total opposite of whatever they've done in games 2-4, I'll maintain a leap of faith.

As talented as Milwaukee is, they do strike me as a team where if you start to turn up the heat, they could start to fold.
I'll be watching game 5, expecting a heartbreaking end to the season but hoping for the best!


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As talented as Milwaukee is, they do strike me as a team where if you start to turn up the heat, they could start to fold.
I'll be watching game 5, expecting a heartbreaking end to the season but hoping for the best!
Sadly we've put the heat on them by winning game 1, and pushing them multiple times in all three other games.

They've responded every time, the C's on the other hand.....

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« Reply #8 on: May 07, 2019, 01:35:22 PM »

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As talented as Milwaukee is, they do strike me as a team where if you start to turn up the heat, they could start to fold.
I'll be watching game 5, expecting a heartbreaking end to the season but hoping for the best!
Sadly we've put the heat on them by winning game 1, and pushing them multiple times in all three other games.

They've responded every time, the C's on the other hand.....

Well, game 1 was really the only time in the series we've had the upper hand. From the 2nd half of game 2 all the way through last night, the Bucks have been in cruise control. Granted, I'm also doing some wishful thinking.

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I think you’ve got to go back to having a second playmaker in the starting/main lineups, whether that be Smart or Hayward. Bring Tatum off the bench and start one of them - probably Hayward to add size and a secondary scorer - to allow Kyrie to play more off the ball and not allow Milwaukee to focus solely on stopping Kyrie.

If not that, then go back to your big lineup with Baynes. If we’re not going to outscore them then we might as well not let Giannis have anything easy on the inside like he’s had lately. Also play Semi more on Giannis off the bench to give him different looks.
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« Reply #10 on: May 07, 2019, 01:49:30 PM »

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Start Kyrie/Smart/Tatum/Horford/Baynes.

Have Smart guard Giannis on the perimeter.  Use Smart to harass/chase/body/deny Giannis the ball and take charges.  Horford/Baynes are there to help/switch if/when Giannis gets into the paint.  The goal is to keep Giannis from going downhill and keep him out of rhythm and frustrate him.  It seems to me, with Horford guarding Giannis he gives Giannis space to catch on the perimeter and then tries to body him/contain him as he drives, unfortunately this lets Giannis get that downhill speed going which makes him harder to stop, so try to cut that off to begin with.  And I'll live with whatever Lopez/Mirotic produce with Horford/Baynes helping off them.

Baynes is averaging 7mpg in this series, so don't be afraid to have him use all 6 fouls making Giannis earn every point in the paint.

Moving Brown/Morris to the bench will hopefully provide some bench scoring (bench only hit 3 and 4 FG the last 2 games, as well as it staggers the guys the C's can throw at Giannis.

Or, since 1st half doesn't seem to be a problem (C's are +2, -4, +1, +2 at the half), continue to do normal game plan 1st half and the be ready to roll out something completely different 2nd half, especially for that 3rd quarter!  I don't care if that means putting in Wannamaker, Yabusele, and Williams to start the 2nd half.  Anything to throw the Bucks off.  Ya there's probably a reason I'm not a head coach lol.

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« Reply #11 on: May 07, 2019, 01:51:45 PM »

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Irving
Smart
Brown
Horford
Williams

That is what I want

Problem with starting Williams is that he's way too raw and inexperienced... This isn't like NCAA, where you can start rookies or freshmen, and see if they can blossom under pressure...

That being said in a few years, Williams seems like the prototypical center that could switch on perimeter scorers, or block and make life tough for athletic wings ala Clint Capela or DAJ.

Ideally, I would start Baynes, but having 5 minutes of Williams jumping all over the place will help set a tone.

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« Reply #12 on: May 07, 2019, 01:55:08 PM »

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I think you’ve got to go back to having a second playmaker in the starting/main lineups, whether that be Smart or Hayward. Bring Tatum off the bench and start one of them - probably Hayward to add size and a secondary scorer - to allow Kyrie to play more off the ball and not allow Milwaukee to focus solely on stopping Kyrie.

If not that, then go back to your big lineup with Baynes. If we’re not going to outscore them then we might as well not let Giannis have anything easy on the inside like he’s had lately. Also play Semi more on Giannis off the bench to give him different looks.

I'd prefer Smart to Hayward. At least Smart is a threat to score when he attacks the paint. Calling Hayward a secondary scorer at this point is laughable, dude drives to pass and everyone knows it.
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Really simple. If 3's aren't falling . ATTACK, ATTACK , ATTACK the Basket!! Get physical and battle down low. Let Giannis to his thing , shut down everyone else.

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adjustments I want to see?  god, where to begin....

- No more "hero"-ball or "heat check" shots from Kyrie.  He needs to facilitate as well as get his shots within the offense.  unless it's a layup or absolutely wide-open shot once the ball is up the court, he needs to pass that ball to get people involved.
- Tatum and Hayward need to get aggressive in driving the ball and finish with purpose instead of lazy layups that get blocked.
- no more stupid passes to guys that are covered or across the top of the key where defenders are lying in wait to pick off the pass.
- no more lazy passes.  too many passes are just tossed or lofted or missing the target. 
- NO MORE JACKING 3'S, ESPECIALLY IF THEY'RE NOT FALLING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   If the shots aren't falling, there should be less than 20 3's taken for the game.  if some people are hitting them, that's a different story but they've been bricking them for 3 games now.
- more defensive effort.  there should be coverage if someone needs to double another player --> no more leaving someone completely open on the Bucks.  they're hitting too many 3's when they're open.  They're should also be no more C's looking at each other when a Bucks player steams in for an uncontested layup because someone blew the coverage.
- work on getting easy shots early to get a rhythm going.  easier to get a groove hitting easier mid-range shots than trying to get hot from deep.