I think whatever the approach is it has to be decisive. Plan A should be to go after Davis, get him and Kyrie looks better as the number two guy. Beyond that there is certainly stuff you have to figure like what to do with Hayward but getting the top 10 player has to be the first play. I do however have a limit, I'm not including both Tatum and Brown. This is in part because of how bad Hayward has looked in general this season, you can't give up both of your young wings on the HOPE that Hayward is better next year, because theres a chance he just isnt and never will be. And without him you arent good enough with just Kyrie and Davis.
If you can't or don't get Davis blow it up. That includes letting Kyrie walk, seeing if we can off load Hayward, and if that means Horford goes he goes. Force feed the young guys, use the draft picks on high upside guys and reset this. Because if you don't a big star this summer than all of a sudden Jaylen is up for an extension next summer, Horford is entering his age 33 year, Hayward may never be all star level again and most of your draft pick capital is now used (except for hopefully the MEM pick). Meaning that our avenues for getting another star through draft or trade have essentially expired. Force feed the young guys, see if they can be more than they were this year.
Trading both young players for Davis is hardly giving up on them. It’s called giving up something to get something. And I think both plus more would be needed to get Davis.
I'm never said it would be giving up on them, I said I wouldn't give both of them up, ie I wouldn't trade both. I don't think we need too either. With LAL's assets essentially injured or diminished and nobody with the young players and draft assets we have I can't come up with a package that beats Tatum, Smart + some combination of Williams and picks.
If you disagree fine, but I don't see any reason to argue this point. Its entirely based off factors none of us can know.
I think a package that includes Doncic or Zion beats whatever we can offer. My point? You just never know. Focusing on only the lakers probably isn’t the right view. If I had to bed, I’d say that Davis has a better chance on ending up with a team that isn’t the lakers or the Celtics.
no one is trading doncic for a rental of Davis
Yeah, not sure why he keeps touting this as an example, as it’s simply not based in reality. That makes literally no sense for Dallas right now.
The only real realistic scenarios that I can see potentially beating us are (1) NYK getting the first pick and offering everything possible for Davis, though I still think our godfather offer beats that for David Griffin, and (2) LAL magically getting the 1 pick and adding it to their previous offer, which I think probably beats our godfather offer.
Both of those are very unlikely to happen given the lottery odds, which is good news for us. Any other team and context just doesn’t make sense to try and trade for Davis, either due to limited assets, limited prospects for winning after the trade, or not being a desirable location long-term. Philly would be interesting, but with Butler abd Harris in free agency they’re essentially out of the market until they decide, which is likely too late by that point.