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Jim Boylen agrees to multi-year extension with CHI
« on: May 03, 2019, 03:02:55 PM »

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OFFICIAL: Bulls extend contract of Jim Boylen

"He has tremendous passion for developing young talent, is a strong communicator and a good fit for this team. The organization is confident in the direction that he is taking our players, and we are committed to him."
- John Paxson

https://twitter.com/chicagobulls/status/1124392621504442368

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Bulls ownership and management consider Boylen the teacher the franchise needs now with a young roster, and loved the way he's been able to build relationships with players along with holding them accountable and coaching them hard.

Jim Boylen has agreed to a multi-year contract extension with the Chicago Bulls, league sources tell ESPN.

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1124387878941986817?s=21
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Re: Jim Boylen agrees to multi-year extension with CHI
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Another bad coach. His teams have done nothing but underperform and yet he is here again in Chicago with his friend giving him another head coaching job.

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I can't wait for him to ruin Carter by force feeding him post ups instead encouraging him to extend his range.

Re: Jim Boylen agrees to multi-year extension with CHI
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Re: Jim Boylen agrees to multi-year extension with CHI
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Lol Chicago is angling for the Knicks' mantle as most incompetent major city front office

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Another bad coach. His teams have done nothing but underperform and yet he is here again in Chicago with his friend giving him another head coaching job.
Who are the good coaches waiting for a job?   Chicago already tried the college route. 

Re: Jim Boylen agrees to multi-year extension with CHI
« Reply #6 on: May 03, 2019, 04:50:22 PM »

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Another bad coach. His teams have done nothing but underperform and yet he is here again in Chicago with his friend giving him another head coaching job.
Who are the good coaches waiting for a job?   Chicago already tried the college route.

The coaching free agent market is not that strong at the minute. I think Chicago and Phoenix would've been best served by sitting tight and seeing if one of the playoff teams fired anyone good.

My favourite available coach is Stan Van Gundy. I loved his work in Orlando and Miami.

I'd like to see Mark Jackson given another chance somewhere. A lot of noise off the court about Jackson - unsure how accurate that was. He did a lot of good things on the court and helped lay the initial foundation to that Warriors team. I am surprised nobody else has been willing to give him a chance.

The other option was to try and first time head coach. Jerry Stackhouse, Sam Cassell, Adrian Griffin and Ime Udoka are former players with good assistant coaching resumes.

Becky Hammon is an interesting name too.

I don't know the names of other non-former player assistants. I don't follow the league as closely today as few years ago (because I don't enjoy today's style of play as much) but I am sure there are a half dozen other intriguing names to throw into the mix there as well.

All of those players would've been more interesting to me than retreads like Monty Williams & Jim Boylan.

Re: Jim Boylen agrees to multi-year extension with CHI
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Another bad coach. His teams have done nothing but underperform and yet he is here again in Chicago with his friend giving him another head coaching job.
Who are the good coaches waiting for a job?   Chicago already tried the college route.

The coaching free agent market is not that strong at the minute. I think Chicago and Phoenix would've been best served by sitting tight and seeing if one of the playoff teams fired anyone good.

My favourite available coach is Stan Van Gundy. I loved his work in Orlando and Miami.

I'd like to see Mark Jackson given another chance somewhere. A lot of noise off the court about Jackson - unsure how accurate that was. He did a lot of good things on the court and helped lay the initial foundation to that Warriors team. I am surprised nobody else has been willing to give him a chance.

The other option was to try and first time head coach. Jerry Stackhouse, Sam Cassell, Adrian Griffin and Ime Udoka are former players with good assistant coaching resumes.

Becky Hammon is an interesting name too.

I don't know the names of other non-former player assistants. I don't follow the league as closely today as few years ago (because I don't enjoy today's style of play as much) but I am sure there are a half dozen other intriguing names to throw into the mix there as well.

All of those players would've been more interesting to me than retreads like Monty Williams & Jim Boylan.

Definite no-no. He is better off as an assistant coach.

No one is giving him a chance, because he's been absolutely horrible, disgusting, and completely vile in how he talks about GSW during broadcasts.... He's bitter, and you can tell how venomous he is as a person.

First off, he sabotaged hiring any strong assistant coaches, because he believed they could 'usurp,' or take his spot.
He created distrust within his front office, and even conspired to forcibly convince his players to refuse help from any of the front office.

He also told his players that when Ezeli was injured, and the Warriors were struggling that he was glad, due to the increased trade value of Ezeli. Players confronted Ezeli to find out if that was true, and Ezeli was crying during the confrontation.

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When Ezeli was injured last season, Jackson and his staff told the healthy players that Ezeli was cheering against them — so that he would look good, according to several team sources. Players confronted Ezeli in a meeting, and he wept at the accusation — which he denied.

He also not only banned Jim Barnett, but also Jerry West from attending practices.

Finally, he also cheated on his wife with a stripper, despite being a well known religious person, (pastor,) and tried to sweep it under the rug.

Staged a coup against Stockton on the Jazz, which led to him eventually retiring. Refused to let Malone become his assistant coach after a few weeks after finding out that Malone was going to become his AHC. (Fear of Malone replacing him.)

Ran iso-ball despite having two of the greatest shooters of all time, and wasn't that great at X's and O's. He also said Curry didn't deserve MVP, and that he was ruining the game due to his shooting, despite previously having coached him.

He also demoted our beloved Scal to D-League during arguments. Then he pitted all of his bench players against his 'star,' players.

Zack Lowe wrote an article about it.

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Kerr overhauled a team culture that had grown poisonous, for well-documented reasons, under Jackson and his assistants. In his zeal to motivate players, Jackson fostered resentment among them and toward the front office. He fired two assistants, requested Jerry West stay away from practices, and asked a younger front-office official to stop rebounding for players, sources have said.

http://grantland.com/the-triangle/the-champs-are-here-a-guide-to-the-elite-and-unlikely-cast-of-characters-who-defined-the-2014-15-golden-state-warriors/
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Re: Jim Boylen agrees to multi-year extension with CHI
« Reply #8 on: May 03, 2019, 05:20:14 PM »

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Mark Jackson

(1) Head Coaches should only work with assistants they are comfortable with. The situation is too precarious to have assistants they do not trust. Jackson was right to veto anyone he didn't want to work with.

I would never force a head coach to work with an assistant he doesn't want because it never works. TRUST is absolute the head coach assistant coach relationship.

(2) Phil Jackson did the same thing with front office people in LA and Chicago. He kept a tight unit. A smaller sphere of influence where he had more control.

It is a choice. A different way of working. Not some absolute line that should never be crossed. Golden State wanted to work a different way and they went with a coach who would work that way as they should have done.

(3) Draymond Green did not play because he couldn't make enough jump-shots to stay on the court his first two years.

Steve Kerr only started Draymond Green because David Lee was injured during his first training camp. He saw how well Draymond was doing and how much better the team played with Draymond in the starting lineup and kept him there. It was a happy accident. The original plan was to keep the starting lineup the same as it had been under Mark Jackson. None of Kerr's offensive changes would have had the level of success they did without that happy accident.

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Mark Jackson did a brilliant job with Klay Thompson. Getting him to buy into defense and developing him as a two-way player.

Mark Jackson did a brilliant job of integrating and developing 3 rookies in Harrison Barnes, Ezeli and Draymond Green. One of the few coaches around at that time who had 3 rookies playing real minutes on a playoff team. Jackson filled them with confidence, allowed them to make mistakes offensively while keeping them accountable in terms of teamwork and defense. It was fantastic coaching.

Mark Jackson fostered the growth of Steph Curry from above average PG to All-Star PG. Gave him the freedom to greatly increase his 3 point attempts and more room to grow as a floor general and leader of the offense.

Mark Jackson developed the defensive mindset of the Golden State that Steve Kerr benefited greatly from. Something that had been absent from GSW for more than 20 years.

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Steve Kerr did a wonderful job opening up the offense. Helped greatly by David Lee's removal from the starting lineup (happy accident) which created more movement & quickness as well as helped get Golden State away from running the offense through him in the post.

Kerr deserves a lot of credit for his work offensively. You can see the influence of Phil Jackson and Gregg Popovich in terms of maintaining proper spacing and avoiding ball-stopping stagnant situations.

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Mark Jackson did a lot of good things.

He did some bad things too. Maybe he learned from them. Maybe he didn't.

Overall, I think Mark Jackson did enough good things to warrant another shot in the NBA as a head coach. Somewhere. Someday.

And I'd love to see him get that shot.

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I think Mark Jackson gets a raw deal. Only the bad things are remembered. None of the good.

Re: Jim Boylen agrees to multi-year extension with CHI
« Reply #9 on: May 03, 2019, 05:20:42 PM »

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That being said, Cassell, Hammons, and SVG are great head coach candidates, and I would really like to see any of the 3 in that position.


Sure, Jackson definitely set the table defensively for players to flourish, and likewise for Curry to become who he is today. (I believe Mike Malone should get at least 50% partial credit...)

But half the things he did in the past were completely hypocritical and downright awful.

I think Jackson is an excellent coach, just not suited to be running the show, I believe he's better off as an assistant coach. His personality, and temperament can lead to dissolution in the locker room.

The problem I think is that Jackson, is just too much of a headcase and not great enough of a coach to justify all the baggage and issues that he comes with. He has ego issues that ultimately hurt the well-being of his team. Not comfortable with giving assistant coaches credit. Feels threatened by subordinates who are competent and independent-minded.

Dude is very religious and does not separate that from his professional role. Makes religion a thing in the locker room which is obviously a recipe for trouble.

Overall has a tendency to play politics and set people in the org against each other.

As a coach, he's actually pretty decent, I won't deny that. Coached the team quite well defensively, offense was pretty meh, but managed to create GSW into a playoff type of team, so I take back my original comment, and edited to give credit where credit's due.

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"Part of it was that he couldn't get along with anybody else in the organization," Lacob said. "And look, he did a great job, and I'll always compliment him in many respects, but you can't have 200 people in the organization not like you."
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Re: Jim Boylen agrees to multi-year extension with CHI
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Another bad coach. His teams have done nothing but underperform and yet he is here again in Chicago with his friend giving him another head coaching job.
Who are the good coaches waiting for a job?   Chicago already tried the college route.

The coaching free agent market is not that strong at the minute. I think Chicago and Phoenix would've been best served by sitting tight and seeing if one of the playoff teams fired anyone good.

My favourite available coach is Stan Van Gundy. I loved his work in Orlando and Miami.

I'd like to see Mark Jackson given another chance somewhere. A lot of noise off the court about Jackson - unsure how accurate that was. He did a lot of good things on the court and helped lay the initial foundation to that Warriors team. I am surprised nobody else has been willing to give him a chance.

The other option was to try and first time head coach. Jerry Stackhouse, Sam Cassell, Adrian Griffin and Ime Udoka are former players with good assistant coaching resumes.

Becky Hammon is an interesting name too.

I don't know the names of other non-former player assistants. I don't follow the league as closely today as few years ago (because I don't enjoy today's style of play as much) but I am sure there are a half dozen other intriguing names to throw into the mix there as well.

All of those players would've been more interesting to me than retreads like Monty Williams & Jim Boylan.
Besides Donovan at OKC what playoff coach might get fired? 

Detroit has soured me on Van Gundy some but even if I was high on him I don't think he's the coach for young, bad teams like Phoenix and Chicago. 

The Suns just fired the good assistant coach that they hired from Utah a year ago.  They'd most likely just recycle another 1st time coach.  The 5 year deal makes it more likely that Williams will get more time.   Williams and Boylen can be caretaker coaches for a couple years to hopefully get them from bad to mediocre.   

Re: Jim Boylen agrees to multi-year extension with CHI
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