Star Wars: Episode IX

[fairweatherfan]

Well, I watched it. It wasn't the worst Star Wars movie but it was almost certainly the dumbest. I almost respected how absurd the whole thing was. It felt like the last season or two of Game of Thrones - they packed like an entire trilogy's worth of material into one movie and wound up pinwheeling around from one event to the next, with things that would've been pivotal plot points in previous movies just kinda zipped past to check off the next half-dozen. Just a hot mess of a movie. Still enjoyed it for what it was though.

Overall:

Empire Strikes Back
New Hope
Rogue One
Last Jedi
Return of the Jedi
Force Awakens
Revenge of the Sith
Rise of Skywalker
Solo
Phantom Menace
Attack of the Clones

[slamtheking]

Well, I watched it. It wasn't the worst Star Wars movie but it was almost certainly the dumbest. I almost respected how absurd the whole thing was. It felt like the last season or two of Game of Thrones - they packed like an entire trilogy's worth of material into one movie and wound up pinwheeling around from one event to the next, with things that would've been pivotal plot points in previous movies just kinda zipped past to check off the next half-dozen. Just a hot mess of a movie. Still enjoyed it for what it was though.

Overall:

Empire Strikes Back
New Hope
Rogue One
Last Jedi
Return of the Jedi
Force Awakens
Revenge of the Sith
Rise of Skywalker
Solo
Phantom Menace
Attack of the Clones

saw it the day before Christmas.  it was ok.  not great, not crappy but the scene jumping in the beginning didn't help it.  agreed that a number of plot points seemed rushed and that some of the plot left me wondering "really, is that the best they could come up with?"

they definitely left it open for another trilogy after that ending -- give it about 10 years before another reboot.

not sure why you'd have Attack of the Clones at the worst one -- Would put Phantom Menace comfortably in that slot with Solo as next worst.  would move Skywalker a little higher and drop Last Jedi a couple of slots each.

[PhoSita]

Saw someone on Twitter ask if the three most recent Star Wars movies are even a trilogy.

It's a fair question.

Yes, they involve many of the same characters.  But is there an arc?  Is there a coherent narrative?  Is the central character the same in each one?

It certainly does not seem to be the case that there are consistent themes or ideas communicated across all three movies.


I still haven't seen TROS, but from everything I've read it seems as though these are really just three distinct movies, almost like separate seasons of a television show, that happen to be set in the same timeframe in a particular universe with a (mostly) shared set of main characters.

[gouki88]

Saw someone on Twitter ask if the three most recent Star Wars movies are even a trilogy.

It's a fair question.

Yes, they involve many of the same characters.  But is there an arc?  Is there a coherent narrative?  Is the central character the same in each one?

It certainly does not seem to be the case that there are consistent themes or ideas communicated across all three movies.


I still haven't seen TROS, but from everything I've read it seems as though these are really just three distinct movies, almost like separate seasons of a television show, that happen to be set in the same timeframe in a particular universe with a (mostly) shared set of main characters.

Yeah, the whole Abrams v Johnson thing and the lack of overall arc was painfully apparent from 7 to 8. Still haven't seen 9, and don't plan on doing so in cinemas. Nothing excited me about it, especially after 8 (which was my least favourite Star Wars film of them all).

At least the Mandalorian is fun!

[PhoSita]

Saw someone on Twitter ask if the three most recent Star Wars movies are even a trilogy.

It's a fair question.

Yes, they involve many of the same characters.  But is there an arc?  Is there a coherent narrative?  Is the central character the same in each one?

It certainly does not seem to be the case that there are consistent themes or ideas communicated across all three movies.


I still haven't seen TROS, but from everything I've read it seems as though these are really just three distinct movies, almost like separate seasons of a television show, that happen to be set in the same timeframe in a particular universe with a (mostly) shared set of main characters.

Yeah, the whole Abrams v Johnson thing and the lack of overall arc was painfully apparent from 7 to 8. Still haven't seen 9, and don't plan on doing so in cinemas. Nothing excited me about it, especially after 8 (which was my least favourite Star Wars film of them all).

At least the Mandalorian is fun!

Yeah, I agree -- i'm going to wait to see the new Star Wars until it is available to stream, i think.


I also agree about The Mandalorian.  That's been scratching the Star Wars itch for me.  The Mandalorian actually develops a cast of characters and builds a world for them to live in.  The conflict at the heart of the story feels like it has actual stakes for the characters involved, thanks to the time spent building everything up.  In other words, it actually works as a story! 

I haven't watched the last episode of The Mandalorian yet, though, so it could let me down.  But I've enjoyed the first seven episodes more than I expected.

[gouki88]

Saw someone on Twitter ask if the three most recent Star Wars movies are even a trilogy.

It's a fair question.

Yes, they involve many of the same characters.  But is there an arc?  Is there a coherent narrative?  Is the central character the same in each one?

It certainly does not seem to be the case that there are consistent themes or ideas communicated across all three movies.


I still haven't seen TROS, but from everything I've read it seems as though these are really just three distinct movies, almost like separate seasons of a television show, that happen to be set in the same timeframe in a particular universe with a (mostly) shared set of main characters.

Yeah, the whole Abrams v Johnson thing and the lack of overall arc was painfully apparent from 7 to 8. Still haven't seen 9, and don't plan on doing so in cinemas. Nothing excited me about it, especially after 8 (which was my least favourite Star Wars film of them all).

At least the Mandalorian is fun!

Yeah, I agree -- i'm going to wait to see the new Star Wars until it is available to stream, i think.


I also agree about The Mandalorian.  That's been scratching the Star Wars itch for me.  The Mandalorian actually develops a cast of characters and builds a world for them to live in.  The conflict at the heart of the story feels like it has actual stakes for the characters involved, thanks to the time spent building everything up.  In other words, it actually works as a story! 

I haven't watched the last episode of The Mandalorian yet, though, so it could let me down.  But I've enjoyed the first seven episodes more than I expected.

Who'd have thought spending time building up interesting characters and the world they live in would be rewarding?

I'm in the exact same boat, haven't found the time to catch the latest episode, but I'm digging it. Both a good Star Wars thing, as well as just a generally good TV show

[Moranis]

Saw someone on Twitter ask if the three most recent Star Wars movies are even a trilogy.

It's a fair question.

Yes, they involve many of the same characters.  But is there an arc?  Is there a coherent narrative?  Is the central character the same in each one?

It certainly does not seem to be the case that there are consistent themes or ideas communicated across all three movies.


I still haven't seen TROS, but from everything I've read it seems as though these are really just three distinct movies, almost like separate seasons of a television show, that happen to be set in the same timeframe in a particular universe with a (mostly) shared set of main characters.

I haven't seen 9 yet, but from what I've read it seems like the 3 movies are about Kylo and Rey jointly.  Again I haven't seen 9, but the first two were definitely about their competing though connected story lines.

[Moranis]

Saw someone on Twitter ask if the three most recent Star Wars movies are even a trilogy.

It's a fair question.

Yes, they involve many of the same characters.  But is there an arc?  Is there a coherent narrative?  Is the central character the same in each one?

It certainly does not seem to be the case that there are consistent themes or ideas communicated across all three movies.


I still haven't seen TROS, but from everything I've read it seems as though these are really just three distinct movies, almost like separate seasons of a television show, that happen to be set in the same timeframe in a particular universe with a (mostly) shared set of main characters.

Yeah, the whole Abrams v Johnson thing and the lack of overall arc was painfully apparent from 7 to 8. Still haven't seen 9, and don't plan on doing so in cinemas. Nothing excited me about it, especially after 8 (which was my least favourite Star Wars film of them all).

At least the Mandalorian is fun!

Yeah, I agree -- i'm going to wait to see the new Star Wars until it is available to stream, i think.


I also agree about The Mandalorian.  That's been scratching the Star Wars itch for me.  The Mandalorian actually develops a cast of characters and builds a world for them to live in.  The conflict at the heart of the story feels like it has actual stakes for the characters involved, thanks to the time spent building everything up.  In other words, it actually works as a story! 

I haven't watched the last episode of The Mandalorian yet, though, so it could let me down.  But I've enjoyed the first seven episodes more than I expected.

Who'd have thought spending time building up interesting characters and the world they live in would be rewarding?

I'm in the exact same boat, haven't found the time to catch the latest episode, but I'm digging it. Both a good Star Wars thing, as well as just a generally good TV show

last episode is good.  a couple of geek moments for sure.

[dannyboy35]

  It’s gonna be tough to bring any story any big stakes after Ep 9. I don’t think you can do it grander than the ideas they put out and wrapped up and this is coming from someone who really wished the sequel trilogy never happened.

[dannyboy35]

  I don’t trust Disney. I’m loving the Mandalorian but Kennedy is such a nut I feel there’s a chance they make Baby Yoda ending up being a girl and treating it like a huge reveal like it matters either way.

[PhoSita]

Saw someone on Twitter ask if the three most recent Star Wars movies are even a trilogy.

It's a fair question.

Yes, they involve many of the same characters.  But is there an arc?  Is there a coherent narrative?  Is the central character the same in each one?

It certainly does not seem to be the case that there are consistent themes or ideas communicated across all three movies.


I still haven't seen TROS, but from everything I've read it seems as though these are really just three distinct movies, almost like separate seasons of a television show, that happen to be set in the same timeframe in a particular universe with a (mostly) shared set of main characters.

I haven't seen 9 yet, but from what I've read it seems like the 3 movies are about Kylo and Rey jointly.  Again I haven't seen 9, but the first two were definitely about their competing though connected story lines.

I can see how that may have been the general idea, but I dont' know if there was a consistent thread from TFA to TLJ, and nothing I've read about TROS suggests that it's been clarified in the most recent episode.

[Fafnir]

If the the movies are about those two then they changed their mind about the direction and nature of the entire arc at least once, maybe twice.

Anyways I can never not see how much JJ Abrams hates having his characters just talk to each other in his movies now that someone pointed it out in a RoS review. Its actually maddening to realize that this same tic is across most of his movies. (the exact joke was if he has to have dialogue for more than 30 seconds something will explode to interrupt it)

[RPGenerate]

Saw someone on Twitter ask if the three most recent Star Wars movies are even a trilogy.

It's a fair question.

Yes, they involve many of the same characters.  But is there an arc?  Is there a coherent narrative?  Is the central character the same in each one?

It certainly does not seem to be the case that there are consistent themes or ideas communicated across all three movies.


I still haven't seen TROS, but from everything I've read it seems as though these are really just three distinct movies, almost like separate seasons of a television show, that happen to be set in the same timeframe in a particular universe with a (mostly) shared set of main characters.

Yeah, the whole Abrams v Johnson thing and the lack of overall arc was painfully apparent from 7 to 8. Still haven't seen 9, and don't plan on doing so in cinemas. Nothing excited me about it, especially after 8 (which was my least favourite Star Wars film of them all).

At least the Mandalorian is fun!

Yeah, I agree -- i'm going to wait to see the new Star Wars until it is available to stream, i think.


I also agree about The Mandalorian.  That's been scratching the Star Wars itch for me.  The Mandalorian actually develops a cast of characters and builds a world for them to live in.  The conflict at the heart of the story feels like it has actual stakes for the characters involved, thanks to the time spent building everything up.  In other words, it actually works as a story! 

I haven't watched the last episode of The Mandalorian yet, though, so it could let me down.  But I've enjoyed the first seven episodes more than I expected.

Who'd have thought spending time building up interesting characters and the world they live in would be rewarding?

I'm in the exact same boat, haven't found the time to catch the latest episode, but I'm digging it. Both a good Star Wars thing, as well as just a generally good TV show

Speaking of interesting characters and worlds, I hope the success of The Mandalorian pushes Disney to make Star Wars stories outside of the Skywalker saga... like a new KOTOR game? Please? I'd just take a remaster of the first two KOTOR games at this point.

[gouki88]

Saw someone on Twitter ask if the three most recent Star Wars movies are even a trilogy.

It's a fair question.

Yes, they involve many of the same characters.  But is there an arc?  Is there a coherent narrative?  Is the central character the same in each one?

It certainly does not seem to be the case that there are consistent themes or ideas communicated across all three movies.


I still haven't seen TROS, but from everything I've read it seems as though these are really just three distinct movies, almost like separate seasons of a television show, that happen to be set in the same timeframe in a particular universe with a (mostly) shared set of main characters.

Yeah, the whole Abrams v Johnson thing and the lack of overall arc was painfully apparent from 7 to 8. Still haven't seen 9, and don't plan on doing so in cinemas. Nothing excited me about it, especially after 8 (which was my least favourite Star Wars film of them all).

At least the Mandalorian is fun!

Yeah, I agree -- i'm going to wait to see the new Star Wars until it is available to stream, i think.


I also agree about The Mandalorian.  That's been scratching the Star Wars itch for me.  The Mandalorian actually develops a cast of characters and builds a world for them to live in.  The conflict at the heart of the story feels like it has actual stakes for the characters involved, thanks to the time spent building everything up.  In other words, it actually works as a story! 

I haven't watched the last episode of The Mandalorian yet, though, so it could let me down.  But I've enjoyed the first seven episodes more than I expected.

Who'd have thought spending time building up interesting characters and the world they live in would be rewarding?

I'm in the exact same boat, haven't found the time to catch the latest episode, but I'm digging it. Both a good Star Wars thing, as well as just a generally good TV show

Speaking of interesting characters and worlds, I hope the success of The Mandalorian pushes Disney to make Star Wars stories outside of the Skywalker saga... like a new KOTOR game? Please? I'd just take a remaster of the first two KOTOR games at this point.

Man, you and me both. The KOTOR games were some of my absolute favourites of the 2000s. Old Republic stuff is always cool to me

[RPGenerate]

Saw someone on Twitter ask if the three most recent Star Wars movies are even a trilogy.

It's a fair question.

Yes, they involve many of the same characters.  But is there an arc?  Is there a coherent narrative?  Is the central character the same in each one?

It certainly does not seem to be the case that there are consistent themes or ideas communicated across all three movies.


I still haven't seen TROS, but from everything I've read it seems as though these are really just three distinct movies, almost like separate seasons of a television show, that happen to be set in the same timeframe in a particular universe with a (mostly) shared set of main characters.

Yeah, the whole Abrams v Johnson thing and the lack of overall arc was painfully apparent from 7 to 8. Still haven't seen 9, and don't plan on doing so in cinemas. Nothing excited me about it, especially after 8 (which was my least favourite Star Wars film of them all).

At least the Mandalorian is fun!

Yeah, I agree -- i'm going to wait to see the new Star Wars until it is available to stream, i think.


I also agree about The Mandalorian.  That's been scratching the Star Wars itch for me.  The Mandalorian actually develops a cast of characters and builds a world for them to live in.  The conflict at the heart of the story feels like it has actual stakes for the characters involved, thanks to the time spent building everything up.  In other words, it actually works as a story! 

I haven't watched the last episode of The Mandalorian yet, though, so it could let me down.  But I've enjoyed the first seven episodes more than I expected.

Who'd have thought spending time building up interesting characters and the world they live in would be rewarding?

I'm in the exact same boat, haven't found the time to catch the latest episode, but I'm digging it. Both a good Star Wars thing, as well as just a generally good TV show

Speaking of interesting characters and worlds, I hope the success of The Mandalorian pushes Disney to make Star Wars stories outside of the Skywalker saga... like a new KOTOR game? Please? I'd just take a remaster of the first two KOTOR games at this point.

Man, you and me both. The KOTOR games were some of my absolute favourites of the 2000s. Old Republic stuff is always cool to me

The Old Republic era stuff is such a gold mine for creating new and interesting stories in the Star Wars universe. I don't understand why Disney is so hesitant to dive into it. Revan and the Jedi Exile are two of my favorite Star Wars characters, so it would be cool to see their story arc end in a compelling way (aka not in an MMO).