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More Conveniently Timed Kyrie Rumors
« on: April 08, 2019, 10:06:23 PM »

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Two to be in fact. Full disclosure - I think these are BS, especially since they're almost contradictory considered together and ESPECIALLY given the credibility (or lack thereof) of the sources (Stephen A. Smith and Frank Isola - both shills for their respective teams and markets, i.e. L.A. Lakers and N.Y. Knicks respectively).

The fact of the matter is, someone - likely at least in part Rich Paul - is still tying to stir up trouble and controversy with Kyrie and the Celtics all right before the playoffs, which I assume is a ploy to stir dissension in the locker room given the history of this team's chemistry this year. Lots of ulterior motives at play with these leaks to these NBA pundits. Isola even admits his rumor comes from a player agent - hmmm, I wonder who?  ::)

First, the Smith rumor about L.A.:

https://twitter.com/RyanWardLA/status/1115397301600538625?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1115397301600538625&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fbleacherreport.com%2Farticles%2F2830262-lakers-rumors-celtics-kyrie-irving-will-meet-with-la-in-free-agency

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Stephen A. Smith on Kyrie Irving/Lakers (1/2): "I'm told Kyrie Irving will grant the Lakers an interview this offseason. The Lakers will have an opp to get Kyrie Irving to come to LA I did not say he's coming to LA! I did not say that!..."

Stephen A. Smith on Kyrie Irving/Lakers (2/2): "...I don't know what he's gonna do, but during his free-agent tour, I'm told he'll give the Lakers an interview."

Next, the Isola rumor about N.Y.:

https://twitter.com/TJDhoops/status/1115418163297095680?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1115418163297095680&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fbleacherreport.com%2Fboston-celtics

https://larrybrownsports.com/basketball/agents-durant-irving-pairing-knicks-inevitable/490866

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The rumors and chatter linking both Kevin Durant and Kyrie Irving with the New York Knicks simply will not subside.

According to Frank Isola of the Athletic, some executives and agents in NBA circles remain convinced that Durant and Irving will team up on the Knicks when both become free agents this offseason. It is believed that Durant will not sign with New York unless another star player joins him there, and Irving is seen as the most likely.

One agent believes that the two players are debating who will be the first to sign with the Knicks. That would enable them to be seen as the leader, while the second player to sign would be considered a follower.

Both players will be annoyed by this story, as neither wants to answer questions about their impending free agency yet. The reality is this speculation will continue until one or both are signed, but it remains to be seen how realistic this proposition is and whether it will actually happen.
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« Reply #1 on: April 08, 2019, 10:21:51 PM »

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Doesn't this part basically eliminate the possibility of both of them signing in NYK?

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One agent believes that the two players are debating who will be the first to sign with the Knicks. That would enable them to be seen as the leader, while the second player to sign would be considered a follower.

This seems to be a non-starter for both of them - as evidenced by Kyrie wanting out of CLE and now Durant reportedly wanting to leave GSW. I would think that if either thinks they are the 'follower', there is no way this is going to work out.

My guess - and this is boring - Kyrie will re-sign with BOS, especially if an AD deal is on the horizon. And Durant will be the first to sign in NYK with another all-star (Butler, Kemba, etc) to follow. Thanks for posting jpotter - gotta love the chatter out there.

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« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2019, 10:24:04 PM »

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Irving did apologize to LeBron. LeBron did accept his apology. So Irving to Lakers is actually quite possible, but we'll see.

Although that would be silly to see Irving return to LeBron to play under his shadow again, after him wanting out of Cleveland because of LeBron (and his ridiculous team).

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« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2019, 10:31:34 PM »

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Irving did apologize to LeBron. LeBron did accept his apology. So Irving to Lakers is actually quite possible, but we'll see.

Although that would be silly to see Irving return to LeBron to play under his shadow again, after him wanting out of Cleveland because of LeBron (and his ridiculous team).

Yeah, that would be nearly as bad from a publicity perspective as Durant going to GS. He'd forever be known in the shadow of Lebron. I think the NY rumor is much more credible (while still unlikely) than anything with LA, as it just doesn't make sense.
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« Reply #4 on: April 08, 2019, 10:36:22 PM »

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Doesn't this part basically eliminate the possibility of both of them signing in NYK?

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One agent believes that the two players are debating who will be the first to sign with the Knicks. That would enable them to be seen as the leader, while the second player to sign would be considered a follower.

This seems to be a non-starter for both of them - as evidenced by Kyrie wanting out of CLE and now Durant reportedly wanting to leave GSW. I would think that if either thinks they are the 'follower', there is no way this is going to work out.

My guess - and this is boring - Kyrie will re-sign with BOS, especially if an AD deal is on the horizon. And Durant will be the first to sign in NYK with another all-star (Butler, Kemba, etc) to follow. Thanks for posting jpotter - gotta love the chatter out there.

Agree about Kyrie. Given the AD possibility, I think it's much more likely he stays than he goes, barring a colossal collapse in the playoffs, that is.

About Durant - I'm still not sure what he does, and I think some of that depends upon what happens in the playoffs. I just don't see the logic of him going to NY, as I don't think they can put together a competitive team that will challenge for a title while he can still be the best player on the team, especially given their lackluster management and ownership. Granted, Durant also saw nothing wrong with joining the best regular season team in NBA history and that he would be on Lebron's level once winning a championship there, so he's obviously not the sharpest tool in the shed.
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« Reply #5 on: April 08, 2019, 10:36:54 PM »

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One agent believes that the two players are debating who will be the first to sign with the Knicks. That would enable them to be seen as the leader, while the second player to sign would be considered a follower.

Thatís a pretty dumb agent, because thatís a simple problem to solve. Do a concurrent signing / concurrent press conference.


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« Reply #6 on: April 08, 2019, 10:55:29 PM »

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Knicks = worst basketball franchise ever...one complete disaster after another

Knicks with KD + Kyrie = worst basketball franchise ever with two really  good players who aren't sure why they went there besides sneaker sales.

Should this happen? Will happily wager cold cash on "no title" during their stay in NYC.


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« Reply #7 on: April 08, 2019, 11:12:33 PM »

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I am just going to enjoy the playoffs and appreciate them for what they are, as this team could look different next season (whether that's good or bad, remains to be seen.)

As for the offseason, I wouldn't be surprised if Kyrie stays or goes. It's not hedging, it's just reality as it seems to be a very fluid situation which could certainly be impacted by the outcome of the playoffs. Even all of the "experts" have thrown in disclaimers saying Kyrie and Durant could change their mind a million times between now and July 1st.

If Kyrie did leave, I still think Ainge goes after Anthony Davis and wouldn't be surprised if Bradley Beal is the potential back-up plan.

I also think the only 3 guys that are just about certain to be back next season are Smart, Hayward and Horford.

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« Reply #8 on: April 09, 2019, 12:50:40 AM »

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Irving did apologize to LeBron. LeBron did accept his apology. So Irving to Lakers is actually quite possible, but we'll see.

Although that would be silly to see Irving return to LeBron to play under his shadow again, after him wanting out of Cleveland because of LeBron (and his ridiculous team).

I donít actually think it is possible honestly. Iíve actually apologized to some ex girlfriends or old friends for things that happened as I have grown. Doesnít mean I want to go hang out with them all the time or start dating the girl again. Playing with Lebron legit annoyed kyrie. Lebron is an ego maniac, ball dominant and passive aggressive with the media. Considering he is coming off what everyone easily accepts as his worst year as a leader or teammate, why the heck would kyrie go play with him. The latest rumor is that Lebron has not even been able to get stars to sign up for space jam. There is also a very growing list of players that have either hinted or flat out said they didnít want to play with Lebron because of his circus including Durant, Leonard, butler and even lesser players like Jamal Crawford. If people think kyrie wants to go play with a 36 year old Lebron that plays no defense under team leadership that has been spectacularly bad the last year o donít know what else to say....

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« Reply #9 on: April 09, 2019, 03:29:26 AM »

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Irving did apologize to LeBron. LeBron did accept his apology. So Irving to Lakers is actually quite possible, but we'll see.

Although that would be silly to see Irving return to LeBron to play under his shadow again, after him wanting out of Cleveland because of LeBron (and his ridiculous team).

I donít actually think it is possible honestly. Iíve actually apologized to some ex girlfriends or old friends for things that happened as I have grown. Doesnít mean I want to go hang out with them all the time or start dating the girl again. Playing with Lebron legit annoyed kyrie. Lebron is an ego maniac, ball dominant and passive aggressive with the media. Considering he is coming off what everyone easily accepts as his worst year as a leader or teammate, why the heck would kyrie go play with him. The latest rumor is that Lebron has not even been able to get stars to sign up for space jam. There is also a very growing list of players that have either hinted or flat out said they didnít want to play with Lebron because of his circus including Durant, Leonard, butler and even lesser players like Jamal Crawford. If people think kyrie wants to go play with a 36 year old Lebron that plays no defense under team leadership that has been spectacularly bad the last year o donít know what else to say....
It would certainly be a mind boggling decision on Kyrie's part with terrible optics.  It would look like he couldn't handle being a team leader.  That may actually be true but playing 2nd fiddle to Durant in NY or AD here would be much more explainable. 

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« Reply #10 on: April 09, 2019, 06:36:24 AM »

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What is the meaning of using S.A.S. as a source?
Realistically? To what good outcome could it lead to?

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is more reliable.

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I hate this "reporting" so much. It's not news, it's gossip. Citing "one agent" as a source means literally nothing. Someone else's agent, who probably has an agenda of his own as jpotter mentioned, isn't going to know any more about Kyrie's mindset than anyone else. You might as well cite me as a source.

Maybe Kyrie is leaving Boston but no one knows anything right now and this kind of piece, which is incredibly common, I find kind of disgusting.
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« Reply #12 on: April 09, 2019, 09:02:47 AM »

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I'd love it if Kyrie wasted the Lakers time and gave them a meeting.

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« Reply #13 on: April 09, 2019, 09:14:57 AM »

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It is really sad that those so called "reporters" make millions reporting made up BS.
almost as sad as the kardashians millionaires.

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« Reply #14 on: April 09, 2019, 09:36:28 AM »

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It is really sad that those so called "reporters" make millions reporting made up BS.
almost as sad as the kardashians millionaires.
Key point, the reporters are certainly NOT making things up.

Their sources are the ones feeding them this information. 100% a Lakers source fed this statement to Smith, same with the unnamed agent and Isola.

 

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