Wannamaker is still better than Rozier

[bopna]

Stevens just does not want to hurt Rozier's ego and is forced to play him... Im definitely tired of rozier and want him gone, too bad danny didn't trade him ages ago to even get something back.

Even if we do not get Kyrie back, im all board on making Smart a full time PG and just get perhaps Rondo to back him up. GH can also play point forward anyways, plus we'll have Wannamaker back .

[tstorey_97]

Rozier's gone in July, right?

Ainge isn't paying him that kind of money.

Wanamaker has always been the classic veteran PG. Shoots only if he's hot, distributes correctly, doesn't make lots of bone head decisions.

He's appeared in 32 games out of 82 chances....fatigues isn't an issue.

[Sophomore]

Karalis wrote something about this that I buy.

Stevens sees what all of us are seeing. He kept playing these guys for the same reason he kept playing Gordon - he was hoping they'd come around by the playoffs, that he would find something that works.

Seems to be working with Gordon, not so much with Rozier and Morris. Rotations will (crosses fingers) get tighter in the playoffs.

[smokeablount]

Just like I said in 2018.

And before the year that Hayward shouldn’t be starting.

And before the year that we needed to give RW minutes to develop him because we need him to be better than Theis is.

And before the year that Baynes should start.

But I must be wrong or just plain crazy, because my knowledge is merely .000000001% of the raw unbridled genius of Brad Stevens and Co. We can’t question anything, because, I mean, the Pacers have lost 7 of 8 and only a Da Vinci like Brad could manage to not pass them in that span of time. Maybe he’s just not giving his all, because he’s about to simultaneously end climate change and cure all forms of cancer right before the playoffs start. Then we’ll go 16-0.

BOOK IT.

Everything you said was true.

Brad has to play Rozier because he makes more money than Wanamaker. It's the NBA.

It is fun though to see a backup point guard making excellent decisions and passes for a change.

Amen brother.  I remember when it was just you and me before the start of last year, saying Tatum should start.

Shouldn't be starting now though.  Ugh. 

[Csfan1984]

I remember when people wanted Smart gone and said Rozier was better than Smart.... let's calm down on Wanna

[Rosco917]

IMO Rozier plays to get noticed. He's thinking about becoming a multi-millionaire after living one of the poorest existence I've ever read about. He wants his own team, and I don't think he cares where.

Even in Louisville, he wasn't thought to be a point guard at all. DA took a chance that possibly Terry could learn the position because he liked what he saw in his workouts. Terry is an undersized 2 guard best coming off the bench just to see if he can get hot. He's still young, he can still be a nice combo guard.

[Kuberski33]

Rozier is a big reason why this team has under-performed.  The Coach however has also under-performed by continually running him out there night after night expecting better results. I expect him to have very limited minutes during the playoffs, but that doesn't solve the issue of a member of your regular rotation not being able to do a job.

[ozgod]

Rozier's gone in July, right?

Ainge isn't paying him that kind of money.

Wanamaker has always been the classic veteran PG. Shoots only if he's hot, distributes correctly, doesn't make lots of bone head decisions.

He's appeared in 32 games out of 82 chances....fatigues isn't an issue.

His recent blemish is that he fouled out in the 3rd quarter against Brooklyn when we needed him to be there in the 4th as well. But it's hard to get rhythm when you're not playing at all.

[Celtics4ever]

But it's hard to get rhythm when you're not playing at all

And yet, good bench players are expected to do this very thing all the time.

I would take Terry over Wannamaker and I bet most GMs would as well.   He has more talent and is playoff proven.  Terry seems to be a favorite to blame games on, but this season is on the whole team.

[Chris22]

But it's hard to get rhythm when you're not playing at all

And yet, good bench players are expected to do this very thing all the time.

I would take Terry over Wannamaker and I bet most GMs would as well.   He has more talent and is playoff proven.  Terry seems to be a favorite to blame games on, but this season is on the whole team.

Wanamaker shoots 50% from three and 90% from the line.

Rozier shoots 35% from three and 77% from the line.

It game seven against Cleveland in the playoffs last year, Rozier was 0-10 from the three point line.

Playoff proven? lol

Wanamaker is a better player.

[smokeablount]

But it's hard to get rhythm when you're not playing at all

And yet, good bench players are expected to do this very thing all the time.

I would take Terry over Wannamaker and I bet most GMs would as well.   He has more talent and is playoff proven.  Terry seems to be a favorite to blame games on, but this season is on the whole team.

Wanamaker shoots 50% from three and 90% from the line.

Rozier shoots 35% from three and 77% from the line.

It game seven against Cleveland in the playoffs last year, Rozier was 0-10 from the three point line.

Playoff proven? lol

Wanamaker is a better player.

Better player? I can’t honestly say that. But better bench player this year? In pretty much every chance he’s gotten, yeah absolutely. Rozier goes hero and makes us worse, and BW plays smart and makes the right play consistently. Wish Terry would smarten up.

[Kuberski33]

But it's hard to get rhythm when you're not playing at all

And yet, good bench players are expected to do this very thing all the time.

I would take Terry over Wannamaker and I bet most GMs would as well.   He has more talent and is playoff proven.  Terry seems to be a favorite to blame games on, but this season is on the whole team.

Performing consistently in your limited minutes is a skill, just as making the 3 or rebounding is a skill.  Rozier doesn't have it. 

I'm not sure any team pays Rozier a whole lot to come in and be their starting PG at this point - even a crap one.  Guessing he signs a one year deal with a lottery team to try to get his value up - but he's not getting paid this summer, that's for sure.  I think wherever he goes, if he wants to start he's going to have to beat someone out.

[slamtheking]

But it's hard to get rhythm when you're not playing at all

And yet, good bench players are expected to do this very thing all the time.

I would take Terry over Wannamaker and I bet most GMs would as well.   He has more talent and is playoff proven.  Terry seems to be a favorite to blame games on, but this season is on the whole team.

Performing consistently in your limited minutes is a skill, just as making the 3 or rebounding is a skill.  Rozier doesn't have it. 

I'm not sure any team pays Rozier a whole lot to come in and be their starting PG at this point - even a crap one.  Guessing he signs a one year deal with a lottery team to try to get his value up - but he's not getting paid this summer, that's for sure.  I think wherever he goes, if he wants to start he's going to have to beat someone out.

pretty fair assessment.  Rozier's value took a hit this season.  probably worth his while to take a 1 year deal on a team that could use a starter to show what he's worth.  Wouldn't be surprised to see him in Phx or Orl next year. 

[ederson]

But it's hard to get rhythm when you're not playing at all

And yet, good bench players are expected to do this very thing all the time.

I would take Terry over Wannamaker and I bet most GMs would as well.   He has more talent and is playoff proven.  Terry seems to be a favorite to blame games on, but this season is on the whole team.

Wanamaker shoots 50% from three and 90% from the line.

Rozier shoots 35% from three and 77% from the line.

It game seven against Cleveland in the playoffs last year, Rozier was 0-10 from the three point line.

Playoff proven? lol

Wanamaker is a better player.

TR played 19 play off games, started in all of them replacing Kyrie Irving , played 36mpg :  19ppg ,6apg 50eFG% for a team that reached the 7nth game of the ECF and the only thing you remember is the 7nth game dismissing whatever he had done till that point .....

And BW is definitely better .... 

fair , objective assesment..... 



BTW just to be clear he certainly sucks this season.

[td450]

The case of Rozier is an odd one.

He really did take a leap at the end of last year. He always had intriguing talents, but he also had chronic problems as a player, and somehow those problems mostly evaporated for a few months. He had always dribbled too much and took bad shots. Lots of step back threes. His numbers were terrible. He could do some great stuff in bursts, but overall, he was a very inefficient player.

Then, he suddenly cut out the over dribbling and poor shot selection. He ran off the rebound, made decent decisions and kept the ball moving after probing the defense. His shot selection suddenly improved, and his numbers improved dramatically. He really was very good.

What is disorienting is that his bad habits returned in force this year, and they have stayed for the entire year. I could spot him a bad month or two but he's been awful for too long for this to be a phase.

He's got to go.