So....if Kyrie walks, what is the plan?

[Green-18]

I think the big question regarding a summer where Kyrie leaves is: what to do with the draft picks?

With the potential for 4 draft picks coming and none in the top 8, what would the Celtics be looking to do? Stock up on mediocre youngsters, consolidate the picks for a higher pick (that would still likely not be great), or see what can be gotten on the trade market?

I suppose it depends on whether or not Danny falls in love with a player in the mid-late first.  Assuming no blockbuster trades, Danny probably tries to move up.  If that fails then I could see him trading for picks in future years.

[Surferdad]

I think the big question regarding a summer where Kyrie leaves is: what to do with the draft picks?

With the potential for 4 draft picks coming and none in the top 8, what would the Celtics be looking to do? Stock up on mediocre youngsters, consolidate the picks for a higher pick (that would still likely not be great), or see what can be gotten on the trade market?

I suppose it depends on whether or not Danny falls in love with a player in the mid-late first.  Assuming no blockbuster trades, Danny probably tries to move up.  If that fails then I could see him trading for picks in future years.

I could be mistaken, but in the NBA, I don't recall see moving up by offering multiple picks for one higher.  Football yes, but a single lottery pick/player is way too valuable in basketball.  He will need to add players plus future picks to move up, and it has to be a pretty good player.  Perhaps a Rozier S&T?

[PhoSita]

Danny would probably match $12 million per year for Terry unless there is better value for an equivalent or better PG.  For all of his flaws, Terry would provide a stable presence for the next year or two.  His contract would also be relatively easy to move if a big trade presented itself.

I agree with you on everything else.

Nothing about Terry Rozier says "stable presence" to me.

[Surferdad]

unfortunately we could end up with a scenario where Kyrie walks after weve already traded for Davis.  Danny needs to be careful.

if no trade is made, I worry about drafting a bunch more young guys, especially after having a season where people have supposedly already been grumbling about 'getting their shot'

If we dont land Davis, I think Danny works his butt off to find a good home for some of these picks and consolidate the roster a bit.

Ya' know that just doesn't seem likely as I expect Kyrie to be quite involved in the private discussions.  Also, I don't see KI rejoining LeBron, and I simply doubt the NYK angle even with Durant possibly going there.

[nickagneta]

unfortunately we could end up with a scenario where Kyrie walks after weve already traded for Davis.  Danny needs to be careful.

if no trade is made, I worry about drafting a bunch more young guys, especially after having a season where people have supposedly already been grumbling about 'getting their shot'

If we dont land Davis, I think Danny works his butt off to find a good home for some of these picks and consolidate the roster a bit.

Ya' know that just doesn't seem likely as I expect Kyrie to be quite involved in the private discussions.  Also, I don't see KI rejoining LeBron, and I simply doubt the NYK angle even with Durant possibly going there.

If the Davis trade is going down we will know on the latest, draft night, because the Celtics will need to draft for New Orleans if the deal goes down. Therefore, Kyrie could theoretically already know that Davis will be a Celtic before even opting out of his contract.

Knowing the team will have Davis and more vets and less youth than this year(hence most likely no split locker room), Kyrie would stay.

It's "his" team. Most of the major players will be between 26-33. He gets his 5 year vet max. There will be a clearly defined hierarchy and roles on the team that it appears this team would fall naturally into because of the personalities involved.

Kyrie would stay if Davis is acquired.

[Silky]

My only fear with trading for Davis is of Kyrie, Davis, old man Horford and broken Hayward is enough to mortgage future on

[tstorey_97]

WELL DONE LADS!
ON TO THE NEXT!

[Rosco917]

Let Rozier walk. Let Morris go too. Stick with Brown and Tatum. Pray that Hayward fully comes back. Sign another center. Kimba Walker?

[liam]

Danny already knows if he's staying or not.

[IDreamCeltics]

My only fear with trading for Davis is of Kyrie, Davis, old man Horford and broken Hayward is enough to mortgage future on

I think that team would have a 1 year window to win a championship (which is not that bad).  Horford will likely be physically unable to be a starter in two years - but has one more season of being an (albeit oft-injured) starter in him.  Next year is Gordon Hayward's contract year so I expect him to play lights out for a big payday, and Kyrie and AD will be in the honeymoon phase for at least a season (ala Kyrie and Lebron, Kyrie and Brad, etc.)

The season after however, will be a complete and utter meltdown of epic proportions as we've seen how Hayward reacts once he gets paid, and also how Kyrie eventually alienates everyone around him and let's be honest, neither AD or Kyrie are afraid to make trade demands with multiple years left on their deals.

I still think I'd probably do it just for the one quality year the team would have together and just pray Ainge can finally sign some legit veterans to fill out the depth chart.

[footey]

If Kyrie walks, I would try to re-sign Rozier and Morris, but only if Morris would be cool with coming off the bench. If not, let him walk.

Extend Al.

Draft Bol Bol.

Develop Rob Williams to be Al's back up, and or replacement as starting 5, and/or two big starting lineups.

Draft a point guard, and groom him for future.

Replace Terry for Marcus in the starting lineup. This will enhance Terry's utility, Smart seems okay coming off the bench.

Sign a good 3 point shooter FA.

Starting Lineup:

Rozier
Brown
Hayward
Tatum
Horford

Bench:

Smart
Morris
FA 3 Point Shooter
Williams
Bol
Rookie PG


Enjoy the team. They may not win a championship, but they will be competitive and fun to watch.  Would be able to re-establish its ID as defense first.

[Green-18]

Danny would probably match $12 million per year for Terry unless there is better value for an equivalent or better PG.  For all of his flaws, Terry would provide a stable presence for the next year or two.  His contract would also be relatively easy to move if a big trade presented itself.

I agree with you on everything else.

Nothing about Terry Rozier says "stable presence" to me.

Depends on your definition of stable.  I can see the current roster, minus Kyrie, winning plenty of games with Terry as the starting PG.  Terry's worst qualities really stand out in a limited bench role.  The Celtics likely wont be able to sign an equivalent or better PG in free agency using the mid-level exception.  Keeping Rozier around seems like a better option than replacing his minutes with a rookie or low priced veteran.  Here's a list of free agents that could be available for the mid-level.

Jeff Teague - No thanks
Elfrid Payton - No thanks
Austin Rivers - No thanks
Patrick Beverley - Yes please.  Unfortunately, he would probably choose a different team if a contender offered equivalent money.  I could also see the Clippers giving him a short term deal that is above what the Celtics can offer.
Thomas Satoransky - Possibly a worthwhile alternative.  This scenario makes Smart the starting PG.  Brad could utilize Satoransky very effectively in a 20-25 MPG role.

The options are very limited.  Terry makes sense at the right price, especially when you consider that his contract could be salary filler for a future trade.

[Sophomore]

Danny would probably match $12 million per year for Terry unless there is better value for an equivalent or better PG.  For all of his flaws, Terry would provide a stable presence for the next year or two.  His contract would also be relatively easy to move if a big trade presented itself.

I agree with you on everything else.

Nothing about Terry Rozier says "stable presence" to me.

Yes; more like “stagnant presence”. It will be great next year if we don’t have to watch him ruin potential runs by taking no-pass pull-up threes when the Cs have a fast break, or dribble to nowhere in the halfcoirt offense before hoisting a fallaway three or contested shot in the paint. Then on defense there’s letting his man go right by him to the rim, getting wiped out on picks, failing to communicate on switches.

Enough.

[Green-18]

Danny would probably match $12 million per year for Terry unless there is better value for an equivalent or better PG.  For all of his flaws, Terry would provide a stable presence for the next year or two.  His contract would also be relatively easy to move if a big trade presented itself.

I agree with you on everything else.

Nothing about Terry Rozier says "stable presence" to me.

Yes; more like “stagnant presence”. It will be great next year if we don’t have to watch him ruin potential runs by taking no-pass pull-up threes when the Cs have a fast break, or dribble to nowhere in the halfcoirt offense before hoisting a fallaway three or contested shot in the paint. Then on defense there’s letting his man go right by him to the rim, getting wiped out on picks, failing to communicate on switches.

Enough.

Nobody will argue that Rozier has been a disappointment this season.  However, I'm not going to judge him strictly by his worst example in the middle of a season where nearly everyone has under performed.  His success as a starter last season needs to carry some weight. 

We can all agree that Danny should look for a better option than Rozier if Kyrie leaves.  An upgrade would likely happen via trade.  My question is what is the clear cut better option if a trade doesn't present itself?  There's a very realistic possibility that Danny's options are limited.

I suppose Danny could draft a young PG and hope that he's ready to contribute right away.  I'm just not convinced that next years team is better without Rozier if Kyrie leaves.  $12 million per year for Rozier is hardly a crippling contract for the team. 

[Chris22]

No Kyrie? So what?
Sign Rozier and go forward with our three first round draft picks and the rest of our team.