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Shooting just 27.9% from 3 since the All Star break
« on: March 03, 2019, 06:07:50 PM »

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53 for 190 from 3 since the All Star break.  That includes 8 for 28 tonight against Houston (we were 1 for 13 in the first half).  27.9% from a team that is stacked with talent.  For reference, the Suns are the league's worst 3 point shooting team this year at 32.7%.

Combine that with poor defense, weak rebounding, subpar coaching, selfish play, and a myriad of other flaws and it's easy to see why we look like one of the worst teams in the league right now.  Obviously any team will struggle to win games when shooting this poorly, but what's different about this team compared to years past is that we do not have any other redeeming qualities that could give us a chance to win.  We're just completely broken right now and we're dying by the 3.

Re: Shooting just 27.9% from 3 since the All Star break
« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2019, 06:08:33 PM »

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Should probably not keep firing them whenever we can, right?
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Re: Shooting just 27.9% from 3 since the All Star break
« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2019, 06:14:01 PM »

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Fortunately it’s unlikely that our players simply forgot how to shoot. We should be fine once the slump ends.

Re: Shooting just 27.9% from 3 since the All Star break
« Reply #3 on: March 03, 2019, 06:16:05 PM »

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53 for 190 from 3 since the All Star break.  That includes 8 for 28 tonight against Houston (we were 1 for 13 in the first half).  27.9% from a team that is stacked with talent.  For reference, the Suns are the league's worst 3 point shooting team this year at 32.7%.

Combine that with poor defense, weak rebounding, subpar coaching, selfish play, and a myriad of other flaws and it's easy to see why we look like one of the worst teams in the league right now.  Obviously any team will struggle to win games when shooting this poorly, but what's different about this team compared to years past is that we do not have any other redeeming qualities that could give us a chance to win.  We're just completely broken right now and we're dying by the 3.

who's shooting the most 3's during this stretch? it seems to me just by watching it's our least effective 3 pt shooters taking the most 3's.

either way the 3 pt shooting is just a mask for the real issue which is a poor offensive philosophy of encouraging guys to take poor shots.

Re: Shooting just 27.9% from 3 since the All Star break
« Reply #4 on: March 03, 2019, 06:50:59 PM »

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Fortunately it’s unlikely that our players simply forgot how to shoot. We should be fine once the slump ends.


Yes, but they are clearly a team of streaky shooters.  We were saying the exact same thing at the start of the season.  And it was true that the players did eventually come out of the slump.  But here we are again just a couple months later and the team is in an extended slump.
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Re: Shooting just 27.9% from 3 since the All Star break
« Reply #5 on: March 03, 2019, 06:57:34 PM »

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brad's offense has always been "live by the 3, die by the 3" and lately we have been dying agonizing deaths on the court. 

as a team, we run no variations on offense so when we're not making shots, we have no offense.  that steamrolls into missing shots that the other team rebounds and uses to start fastbreaks for easy points.

Re: Shooting just 27.9% from 3 since the All Star break
« Reply #6 on: March 03, 2019, 07:02:05 PM »

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The team has no inside presence.

Horford can't score inside on a regular basis because he's most of the time smaller than the opposing team's Center.

It's true that the Celts live by the 3 and die by the 3.

Ainge could have done something at the trade deadline.
But Ainge wants to go all in on Anthony Davis.
Looks like us Celtic fans will have to endure this kind of Celtic basketball for a couple more months.

Re: Shooting just 27.9% from 3 since the All Star break
« Reply #7 on: March 03, 2019, 07:23:59 PM »

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Capella adds a lot of value.

Especially when they miss 3’s, he gives them 2nd and 3rd chances.

Too bad Williams couldn’t have developed into that role this season.

Re: Shooting just 27.9% from 3 since the All Star break
« Reply #8 on: March 03, 2019, 07:25:58 PM »

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It has to end eventually, right??

Re: Shooting just 27.9% from 3 since the All Star break
« Reply #9 on: March 03, 2019, 07:30:08 PM »

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53 for 190 from 3 since the All Star break.  That includes 8 for 28 tonight against Houston (we were 1 for 13 in the first half).  27.9% from a team that is stacked with talent.  For reference, the Suns are the league's worst 3 point shooting team this year at 32.7%.

Combine that with poor defense, weak rebounding, subpar coaching, selfish play, and a myriad of other flaws and it's easy to see why we look like one of the worst teams in the league right now.  Obviously any team will struggle to win games when shooting this poorly, but what's different about this team compared to years past is that we do not have any other redeeming qualities that could give us a chance to win.  We're just completely broken right now and we're dying by the 3.

who's shooting the most 3's during this stretch? it seems to me just by watching it's our least effective 3 pt shooters taking the most 3's.

either way the 3 pt shooting is just a mask for the real issue which is a poor offensive philosophy of encouraging guys to take poor shots.

Going through the stats during this stretch, sorted by highest to lowest 3's attempted:

Morris: 8 for 38 (21%)
Kyrie: 15 for 30 (50%)
Brown: 6 for 24 (25%)
Horford: 5 for 22 (22.7%)
Smart: 10 for 21 (47.6%)
Rozier: 2 for 18 (11.1%)
Tatum: 4 for 17 (23.5%)
Hayward: 1 for 8 (12.5%)

So to answer your question: Morris is shooting the most. Overall he's shooting just 27% from 3 since the start of February, and with his bad attitude, bad defense, and uncanny ability to kill ball movement he is killing us out there.  And Rozier's poor shooting numbers are no surprise... but 11%.  11%.  E-lev-en per-cent.

And I agree that our offensive philosophy is a problem - at least for this particular group of players.  We have no discipline and Brad doesn't hold anyone accountable for selfish play.

Re: Shooting just 27.9% from 3 since the All Star break
« Reply #10 on: March 03, 2019, 07:46:36 PM »

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53 for 190 from 3 since the All Star break.  That includes 8 for 28 tonight against Houston (we were 1 for 13 in the first half).  27.9% from a team that is stacked with talent.  For reference, the Suns are the league's worst 3 point shooting team this year at 32.7%.

Combine that with poor defense, weak rebounding, subpar coaching, selfish play, and a myriad of other flaws and it's easy to see why we look like one of the worst teams in the league right now.  Obviously any team will struggle to win games when shooting this poorly, but what's different about this team compared to years past is that we do not have any other redeeming qualities that could give us a chance to win.  We're just completely broken right now and we're dying by the 3.

who's shooting the most 3's during this stretch? it seems to me just by watching it's our least effective 3 pt shooters taking the most 3's.

either way the 3 pt shooting is just a mask for the real issue which is a poor offensive philosophy of encouraging guys to take poor shots.

Going through the stats during this stretch, sorted by highest to lowest 3's attempted:

Morris: 8 for 38 (21%)
Kyrie: 15 for 30 (50%)
Brown: 6 for 24 (25%)
Horford: 5 for 22 (22.7%)
Smart: 10 for 21 (47.6%)
Rozier: 2 for 18 (11.1%)
Tatum: 4 for 17 (23.5%)
Hayward: 1 for 8 (12.5%)

So to answer your question: Morris is shooting the most. Overall he's shooting just 27% from 3 since the start of February, and with his bad attitude, bad defense, and uncanny ability to kill ball movement he is killing us out there.  And Rozier's poor shooting numbers are no surprise... but 11%.  11%.  E-lev-en per-cent.

And I agree that our offensive philosophy is a problem - at least for this particular group of players.  We have no discipline and Brad doesn't hold anyone accountable for selfish play.

Gotta be Kyrie's fault.

Re: Shooting just 27.9% from 3 since the All Star break
« Reply #11 on: March 03, 2019, 08:33:31 PM »

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53 for 190 from 3 since the All Star break.  That includes 8 for 28 tonight against Houston (we were 1 for 13 in the first half).  27.9% from a team that is stacked with talent.  For reference, the Suns are the league's worst 3 point shooting team this year at 32.7%.

Combine that with poor defense, weak rebounding, subpar coaching, selfish play, and a myriad of other flaws and it's easy to see why we look like one of the worst teams in the league right now.  Obviously any team will struggle to win games when shooting this poorly, but what's different about this team compared to years past is that we do not have any other redeeming qualities that could give us a chance to win.  We're just completely broken right now and we're dying by the 3.

who's shooting the most 3's during this stretch? it seems to me just by watching it's our least effective 3 pt shooters taking the most 3's.

either way the 3 pt shooting is just a mask for the real issue which is a poor offensive philosophy of encouraging guys to take poor shots.

Going through the stats during this stretch, sorted by highest to lowest 3's attempted:

Morris: 8 for 38 (21%)
Kyrie: 15 for 30 (50%)
Brown: 6 for 24 (25%)
Horford: 5 for 22 (22.7%)
Smart: 10 for 21 (47.6%)
Rozier: 2 for 18 (11.1%)
Tatum: 4 for 17 (23.5%)
Hayward: 1 for 8 (12.5%)

So to answer your question: Morris is shooting the most. Overall he's shooting just 27% from 3 since the start of February, and with his bad attitude, bad defense, and uncanny ability to kill ball movement he is killing us out there.  And Rozier's poor shooting numbers are no surprise... but 11%.  11%.  E-lev-en per-cent.

And I agree that our offensive philosophy is a problem - at least for this particular group of players.  We have no discipline and Brad doesn't hold anyone accountable for selfish play.

thank you, yeah morris is just a team killer and I had a hunch it was him when I asked the question. I really don't know why this freaking coach takes so long to spot the problems.

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« Reply #12 on: March 03, 2019, 09:29:54 PM »

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It is time to start Irving, Brown, Baynes, Horford, and Tatum.

Let Smart run the second unit.

Re: Shooting just 27.9% from 3 since the All Star break
« Reply #13 on: March 03, 2019, 09:34:03 PM »

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Maybe some of the starters need some rest. Give 'em a game or two off.

Re: Shooting just 27.9% from 3 since the All Star break
« Reply #14 on: March 03, 2019, 09:38:33 PM »

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The team has no inside presence.

Horford can't score inside on a regular basis because he's most of the time smaller than the opposing team's Center.

It's true that the Celts live by the 3 and die by the 3.

Ainge could have done something at the trade deadline.
But Ainge wants to go all in on Anthony Davis.
Looks like us Celtic fans will have to endure this kind of Celtic basketball for a couple more months.

We have willing rebounders. The biggest issue I see with rebounding, particularly when get concede offensive rebounds is that nobody boxes out. Tommy mentioned this a couple games ago but I've noticed it for a while now. We have 3-4 guys all looking at the rim trying to get the rebound and nobody boxes out someone coming from the corner or from the top of the key. That's a basketball fundamental. They should be communicating on who is getting the rebound and who is boxing out.

As for 3s, what I find really frustrating is that when the ball gets kicked out for a 3 the recipient almost always pump fakes even when there's nobody near them. Just shoot the ball!
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