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Re: Pierce doesn't think the Celtics should trade Tatum for AD
« Reply #30 on: March 02, 2019, 10:01:16 PM »

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Way to pump up the kid's value, P.

Who knows. Tatum/Brown could turn into Gerald Green and Kedrick Brown.

AD is perennial 1st team all-NBA. You build champions with that. Not just contenders.
they'd both have to regress severely to be Green and Brown.

Re: Pierce doesn't think the Celtics should trade Tatum for AD
« Reply #31 on: March 02, 2019, 10:08:13 PM »

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Way to pump up the kid's value, P.

Who knows. Tatum/Brown could turn into Gerald Green and Kedrick Brown.

AD is perennial 1st team all-NBA. You build champions with that. Not just contenders.
they'd both have to regress severely to be Green and Brown.
Jaylen Brown has already played double the amount of games for Boston that Kedrick did, and the Tatum vs Green comparison is just funny. The stats speak for themselves

https://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.fcgi?request=1&sum=1&player_id1_hint=gerald+green&player_id1_select=Gerald+Green&y1=2007&player_id1=greenge01&idx=players&player_id2_hint=jayson+Tatum&player_id2_select=Jayson+Tatum&y2=2019&player_id2=tatumja01&idx=players
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PF: Terry Cummings (84-85) / Paul Millsap (15-16)
C: Chris Webber (00-01) / Ralph Sampson (83-84) / Andrew Bogut (09-10)

Re: Pierce doesn't think the Celtics should trade Tatum for AD
« Reply #32 on: March 02, 2019, 11:18:48 PM »

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Some nights, I wonder if I’d rather have Jaylen over Tatum on this team. If Tatum is what it takes to acquire AD, I’d do it. Sorry Truth!

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Re: Pierce doesn't think the Celtics should trade Tatum for AD
« Reply #33 on: March 02, 2019, 11:27:40 PM »

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I'm a little confused by Paul's use of the term "perimeter player"(at the risk of sounding ignorant.)

Does he mean Tatum is more useful to the team because he can play outside the perimeter and shoot 3s or because he's useful inside the perimeter to knock down jump shots, post-up and attack the basket?

I think that's important to know in figuring out whether I agree with him.

Re: Pierce doesn't think the Celtics should trade Tatum for AD
« Reply #34 on: March 02, 2019, 11:50:41 PM »

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I'm a little confused by Paul's use of the term "perimeter player"(at the risk of sounding ignorant.)

Does he mean Tatum is more useful to the team because he can play outside the perimeter and shoot 3s or because he's useful inside the perimeter to knock down jump shots, post-up and attack the basket?

I think that's important to know in figuring out whether I agree with him.
My take is he meant 3 level wing scorer type of player.

Re: Pierce doesn't think the Celtics should trade Tatum for AD
« Reply #35 on: March 03, 2019, 12:35:17 AM »

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I'm a little confused by Paul's use of the term "perimeter player"(at the risk of sounding ignorant.)

Does he mean Tatum is more useful to the team because he can play outside the perimeter and shoot 3s or because he's useful inside the perimeter to knock down jump shots, post-up and attack the basket?

I think that's important to know in figuring out whether I agree with him.

Perimeter player is just a player who plays from the perimeter. Might be a sharpshooter or a dribble driver or a player who does a bit of everything. Rondo, Eddie House, Ray Allen, Pierce and Posey were all perimeter players.

Re: Pierce doesn't think the Celtics should trade Tatum for AD
« Reply #36 on: March 03, 2019, 12:37:37 AM »

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Jaylen Brown's been playing good.

I think the Celtics should trade Tatum instead of Brown lol!


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Re: Pierce doesn't think the Celtics should trade Tatum for AD
« Reply #37 on: March 03, 2019, 12:43:31 AM »

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I'm a little confused by Paul's use of the term "perimeter player"(at the risk of sounding ignorant.)

Does he mean Tatum is more useful to the team because he can play outside the perimeter and shoot 3s or because he's useful inside the perimeter to knock down jump shots, post-up and attack the basket?

I think that's important to know in figuring out whether I agree with him.

I'm thinking "perimeter player" nowadays mainly means 3-point shooters.


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Re: Pierce doesn't think the Celtics should trade Tatum for AD
« Reply #38 on: March 03, 2019, 03:43:25 AM »

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did he just refer himself as a great perimeter player.

First, the designation 'great' gets thrown around a lot lately.

Second, dont some here knock LeBron for tooting his own horn?

Re: Pierce doesn't think the Celtics should trade Tatum for AD
« Reply #39 on: March 03, 2019, 03:49:41 AM »

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did he just refer himself as a great perimeter player.

First, the designation 'great' gets thrown around a lot lately.

Second, dont some here knock LeBron for tooting his own horn?
Not sure if you're referring to Paul or JT, but calling oneself "great" is a bit different to calling oneself the best to ever play
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C: Chris Webber (00-01) / Ralph Sampson (83-84) / Andrew Bogut (09-10)

Re: Pierce doesn't think the Celtics should trade Tatum for AD
« Reply #40 on: March 03, 2019, 10:11:27 AM »

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I want to agree with Paul, but feel I haven't seen enough from Tatum to believe you can build a championship team around him.

I have...and it has to do with his polish on so many aspects of the game.

I'm not anti-Kyrie right...but it does seem like he's kinda holding him back.

Kyrie should look at things like that like Mike did. He saw teamates as another weapon he could shoot at people.

If Kyrie had a mindset like that, I would be completely behind the dude.

Re: Pierce doesn't think the Celtics should trade Tatum for AD
« Reply #41 on: March 03, 2019, 10:26:49 AM »

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Like Tatum but dont think he will become a top 30 player..Davis is top 5
C/PF-Horford, Baynes, Noel, Theis, Morris,
SF/SG- Tatum, Brown, Hayward, Smart, Semi, Clark
PG- Irving, Rozier, Larkin

Re: Pierce doesn't think the Celtics should trade Tatum for AD
« Reply #42 on: March 03, 2019, 10:28:36 AM »

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If they got that together, they would only need a dominant rim protector who's very active and athletic.

With that, they could win a championship.

I'm hoping Williams is that dude.

Re: Pierce doesn't think the Celtics should trade Tatum for AD
« Reply #43 on: March 03, 2019, 10:31:05 AM »

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Like Tatum but dont think he will become a top 30 player..Davis is top 5

All this "top this" and "top that" means Nothing. You need talented players that fit together.

You guys must not see how close they are to that.

Re: Pierce doesn't think the Celtics should trade Tatum for AD
« Reply #44 on: March 03, 2019, 10:49:40 AM »

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Tatum plays every game
Tatum is available every game
Tatum is durable
Tatum doesn't take rest days
Tatum is always in the lineup
Tatum doesn't understand load management
Tatum is the only starter to play every game
Tatum isn't made of glass

...get the picture.