So what moves do people suggest?

[gouki88]

Alright, so it's not Rozier's fault tonight even though he's been the team's Achilles Heel for most of the year. I did not watch the game so who is to blame for the Portland loss?

Brad Stevens? Kyrie Irving? Marcus Morris? Tatum/Brown? Gordon Hayward?

Tatum's garbage defence and rebounding really hurt us. Brad misusing Hayward more and more hurt us. Marcus Morris shooting 30% hurt us. Theis was no good.

Brad probably should have had us more prepared coming out of halftime, as the third quarter sucked. But that's become the norm with him, so I don't even know. Everyone is to blame for this one, except JB and Kyrie probably. Although JB missed all his threes and Kyrie forced some offence, they were far less bad than others.

[KGBirdBias]

Where are all the Rozier is the problem fans?

I think Brown has earned a chance to regain his starting spot. Morris is fading...he's not enough to help Horford on the boards.

Stevens should've got a tech for Brown going after the loose ball and being held. Sometimes the guys need to know you will protect them if they have a hustle play that isn't called.

Kyrie
Brown
Tatum
Horford
Williams

Yes, I'm starting William's because his mistakes can be masked by his rebounding and defense. Its early in the game, he's getting experience without costing us games. So what if he fouls out we need his size and athletic ability.

[TheReaLPuba]

Got start Hayward.

He's been an All-star and starter his entire career.

The dude needs to get right.

[GreenCoffeeBean]

Why does Tatum always seem to get a pass around here? He is not starter material yet and is hurting this team on both ends of the court. The fix to this team is stupid simple: more minutes to Hayward and Brown. Less minutes to Tatum and Morris.

[jambr380]

What makes you think the problematic mix won't matter after this year?

I can’t guarantee anything, but with an AD trade and  FAs leaving, the problem kind of solves itself. You are losing Morris, Rozier, Tatum, and likely one of Brown/Smart.

For major core players, you are left with Kyrie, AD, Horford, Hayward, and one of Brown/Smart. The starting line-up writes itself and the hierarchy over the bench unit is obvious.

We could re-sign players like Theis or Wanamaker or find their replacements for the vet minimum (players excited to contribute to the team). We would still have Baynes, Ojeleye, maybe Time Lord.

If you think Kyrie is 100% the problem, then  this doesn’t work; otherwise, we just need to make it to the off-season in one piece. I imagine we will pick it up again at some point - hoping Indy falls to #4 so we have a more solid shot at the 2nd round.

[Greengang5]

After last nights game, the move I would make is getting CBS to realize Hayward should not have a 9% usage rate for the game and 6% in the first half.  Meanwhile, Theis is almost 26% in the first half.  I get the eye test versus stats debate, but the usage stat is meaningful.  Hayward came out with energy and hustle and CBS has no idea how to work him into the offense and get him going.  For all the talk about CBS favoring Hayward, I think he actually makes it a point to go in the opposite direction and doesn't call his number enough.  Hayward should be starting and they should run the first couple of plays for him to get to the basket.  And stop calling him the jack of all trades and call him our second scorer for the remaining 20 games.



 


 

[RodyTur10]

Where are all the Rozier is the problem fans?

I think Brown has earned a chance to regain his starting spot. Morris is fading...he's not enough to help Horford on the boards.

Stevens should've got a tech for Brown going after the loose ball and being held. Sometimes the guys need to know you will protect them if they have a hustle play that isn't called.

Kyrie
Brown
Tatum
Horford
Williams

Yes, I'm starting William's because his mistakes can be masked by his rebounding and defense. Its early in the game, he's getting experience without costing us games. So what if he fouls out we need his size and athletic ability.

I like this idea. Horford can coach Williams while they share the court. Williams should have gotten a lot more minutes this season. Now Baynes is injured and we need a big like Yabusele or Williams to step in, but since Williams hardly gets playing time he isn't ready to do so. There's aren't a lot of games left to prepare Williams for the playoffs.

Look at how Mitchell Robinson has developed. At the start of the season Robinson and Williams looked very similar in playing style and level, but Robinson has played 826 minutes so far and Williams only 221. Standardized stats show that over the season their stats are also very similar, but when you look at the last two months Robinson has shown tremendous progress.

The best way to develop players is giving them NBA minutes. I don't believe in the concept of earning minutes, since young players generally are prone to make mistakes. You learn from making mistakes and therefore you should be allowed to do so. As long as you put in effort, try to play the right way and show that you have talent. As a coach you need to sacrifice some short term results for a long term view of building the team. Sending young guys to Maine doesn't help much, since the difference in level of play is too big.

[celts55]

I don't know. Maybe ask Irving not to go 1 on 3 twice in a row and get both blocked.

Maybe ask Smart to play smart. That 3 he throw up with plenty of time on the clock was one of the worst decisions I have ever seen. (Maybe Brown should be yelling at him instead of the other way around). Also threw up a quick 3 when they pulled within 2 earlier in the 4th.

Maybe continue to feed Brown in the post which was working quite well instead of going back to chucking up 3's.

Maybe not play Morris or Haywood so much in the 4th. Haywood misses easy layup and Morris continues to miss his beloved 3's.

Those are some thoughts from last night alone. As for the big picture??

[gouki88]

Where are all the Rozier is the problem fans?

I think Brown has earned a chance to regain his starting spot. Morris is fading...he's not enough to help Horford on the boards.

Stevens should've got a tech for Brown going after the loose ball and being held. Sometimes the guys need to know you will protect them if they have a hustle play that isn't called.

Kyrie
Brown
Tatum
Horford
Williams

Yes, I'm starting William's because his mistakes can be masked by his rebounding and defense. Its early in the game, he's getting experience without costing us games. So what if he fouls out we need his size and athletic ability.

Rozier is still the biggest problem. Had he played we lose by double digits.

Starting Williams?? God no! He's way too raw.

[gouki88]

Where are all the Rozier is the problem fans?

I think Brown has earned a chance to regain his starting spot. Morris is fading...he's not enough to help Horford on the boards.

Stevens should've got a tech for Brown going after the loose ball and being held. Sometimes the guys need to know you will protect them if they have a hustle play that isn't called.

Kyrie
Brown
Tatum
Horford
Williams

Yes, I'm starting William's because his mistakes can be masked by his rebounding and defense. Its early in the game, he's getting experience without costing us games. So what if he fouls out we need his size and athletic ability.

I like this idea. Horford can coach Williams while they share the court. Williams should have gotten a lot more minutes this season. Now Baynes is injured and we need a big like Yabusele or Williams to step in, but since Williams hardly gets playing time he isn't ready to do so. There's aren't a lot of games left to prepare Williams for the playoffs.

Look at how Mitchell Robinson has developed. At the start of the season Robinson and Williams looked very similar in playing style and level, but Robinson has played 826 minutes so far and Williams only 221. Standardized stats show that over the season their stats are also very similar, but when you look at the last two months Robinson has shown tremendous progress.

The best way to develop players is giving them NBA minutes. I don't believe in the concept of earning minutes, since young players generally are prone to make mistakes. You learn from making mistakes and therefore you should be allowed to do so. As long as you put in effort, try to play the right way and show that you have talent. As a coach you need to sacrifice some short term results for a long term view of building the team. Sending young guys to Maine doesn't help much, since the difference in level of play is too big.

It's a lot easier for New York to give a raw big man minutes when they're not only not concerned with winning, but they're actually actively trying to lose.

We, on the other hand, are fighting for playoff seeding right now, and RWill is way too raw to contribute more than 5-10MPG of energy and hustle.

[celts55]

Where are all the Rozier is the problem fans?

I think Brown has earned a chance to regain his starting spot. Morris is fading...he's not enough to help Horford on the boards.

Stevens should've got a tech for Brown going after the loose ball and being held. Sometimes the guys need to know you will protect them if they have a hustle play that isn't called.

Kyrie
Brown
Tatum
Horford
Williams

Yes, I'm starting William's because his mistakes can be masked by his rebounding and defense. Its early in the game, he's getting experience without costing us games. So what if he fouls out we need his size and athletic ability.

I like this idea. Horford can coach Williams while they share the court. Williams should have gotten a lot more minutes this season. Now Baynes is injured and we need a big like Yabusele or Williams to step in, but since Williams hardly gets playing time he isn't ready to do so. There's aren't a lot of games left to prepare Williams for the playoffs.

Look at how Mitchell Robinson has developed. At the start of the season Robinson and Williams looked very similar in playing style and level, but Robinson has played 826 minutes so far and Williams only 221. Standardized stats show that over the season their stats are also very similar, but when you look at the last two months Robinson has shown tremendous progress.

The best way to develop players is giving them NBA minutes. I don't believe in the concept of earning minutes, since young players generally are prone to make mistakes. You learn from making mistakes and therefore you should be allowed to do so. As long as you put in effort, try to play the right way and show that you have talent. As a coach you need to sacrifice some short term results for a long term view of building the team. Sending young guys to Maine doesn't help much, since the difference in level of play is too big.

You did notice in the 4 seconds he was in the game last night, he totally lost his man giving up an easy jam. While I think he might be a descent player, he's a project at best right now.

I don't think when they are trying to right the ship is the best time to insert him into the rotation. Think he need a lot more time in Portland.

[SHAQATTACK]

Now ....not a thing .

Let Danny bring in the BIG fish and Gordon heals up .

[KGBirdBias]

Hayward is killing us right now. In the last 10 games, I would start Hayward and sit some starters. This will make him the feature player and give him a chance to get right. He's trash right now.

Once playoff position will not change, let Hayward get 30 mins and majority of the shots. If he doesn't show much, take him out the rotation for playoffs.

[celticinorlando]

Long run? Get AD and pray to God Hayward can become so what of what he was.

[Birdman]

Sign and trade GS to get Durant..get rid of Hayward to GS and getva legit big!!