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Re: If Kyrie leaves...
« Reply #90 on: February 24, 2019, 03:04:24 PM »

Offline gpap

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Kyrie is a empty stat sheet stuffer. His stats don't equate to wins.

Stop blaming Brown. He's a bench player and not even getting major minutes.

This team is disjointed. I truly feel none of them like playing with Kyrie. Its obvious.
It really is funny when people say a guy who averaged 30/4/3 in a historic Finals comeback, including hitting one of the biggest shots in NBA history to win a championship, produces stats that don't lead to wins.

Literally can't make this stuff up
 

Sure his stats mattered in that finals while playing with lebron...they wouldve  been a lottery team without lebron.

Interesting. So Lebron singlehandedly beat the 73 win Warriors all by himself in the Finals? How about that. Were there 4 clones of Lebron on the court at the same time?

Re: If Kyrie leaves...
« Reply #91 on: February 24, 2019, 04:24:15 PM »

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You let Kyrie walk, keep the picks for now and let the youngins grow. Maybe someone else becomes unhappy and you trade for them.

Personally, I would move heaven and earth to get Klay Thompson but that's not happening. It's not like anyone is beating the Warriors anyway.

I really like the PG at Marquette. If he could backup Rozier that's a start. Let Brown and Tatum grow into their roles and in 2 years both will be in the All Star game.

Don't sell the farm to make Kyrie happy.


I want to be done watching Terry Rozier.  If Kyrie goes I hope and pray Rozier goes too
Rozier is frustrated and rightfully so. Kyrie said he wants more minutes and Stevens is giving it to him. Kyrie knows that when Rozier is right the chemistry is better.

Rozier is a starter anywhere else. Sure he has bad games but why dont people criticize Kyrie when he goes 9-27? Rozier is a better defender, rebounder. He doesn't complain and he's about team. Kyrie is a diva.
My god man. Rozier wouldn’t start on basically half the teams in the league.
Philadelphia, Brooklyn, Golden State, Houston, Denver, Portland, Charlotte, Toronto, Washington, OKC, Utah, Milwaukee, Miami, Sacramento and the Lakers are all teams where he wouldn’t start.

Terry isn’t about team at all. That is some of the most anti-Kyrie bias I’ve ever seen. Terry is playing entirely for himself and his next contract.
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Re: If Kyrie leaves...
« Reply #92 on: February 24, 2019, 05:21:47 PM »

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Again, what has Rozier done to make anyone say he's for his next contract? In the games he's started they've won most. He's not a big assist guy but he gets Ws. He hasn't complained about minutes. Imagine where we'd be if we had to go straight to Wanamaker just because Kyrie is out.

The hate on Rozier is crazy. When he gets erratic, take him out. When Kyrie has an off game he keeps jacking.


Re: If Kyrie leaves...
« Reply #93 on: February 24, 2019, 05:26:45 PM »

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Again, what has Rozier done to make anyone say he's for his next contract? In the games he's started they've won most. He's not a big assist guy but he gets Ws. He hasn't complained about minutes. Imagine where we'd be if we had to go straight to Wanamaker just because Kyrie is out.

The hate on Rozier is crazy. When he gets erratic, take him out. When Kyrie has an off game he keeps jacking.
Maybe it’s him consistently looking for his own numbers, whether they be points or rebounds, to the consistent detriment of the team?

He doesn’t get erratic. He comes in bad, is bad in the middle and finishes bad.

Kyrie keeps jacking because he has over half a decade of play proving that he can score almost anywhere on anyone. Terry has none
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PF: Terry Cummings (84-85) / Paul Millsap (15-16)
C: Chris Webber (00-01) / Ralph Sampson (83-84) / Andrew Bogut (09-10)

Re: If Kyrie leaves...
« Reply #94 on: February 24, 2019, 05:30:48 PM »

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Again, what has Rozier done to make anyone say he's for his next contract? In the games he's started they've won most. He's not a big assist guy but he gets Ws. He hasn't complained about minutes. Imagine where we'd be if we had to go straight to Wanamaker just because Kyrie is out.

The hate on Rozier is crazy. When he gets erratic, take him out. When Kyrie has an off game he keeps jacking.
Maybe it’s him consistently looking for his own numbers, whether they be points or rebounds, to the consistent detriment of the team?

He doesn’t get erratic. He comes in bad, is bad in the middle and finishes bad.

Kyrie keeps jacking because he has over half a decade of play proving that he can score almost anywhere on anyone. Terry has none

Wow, this is just hate on Rozier. Where would we be without him? As soon as him and Brown come in the game, they change the pace. They are bench players what do you expect? When they've started they've played well.

Hayward has stunk the entire season and I see no one getting on him. He has taken mins from everyone.

Re: If Kyrie leaves...
« Reply #95 on: February 24, 2019, 05:51:15 PM »

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Sometimes Karma is the best thing for people. After a second round exit, we'll see most of them gone and they will have Brad, Hayward, and Kyrie like they wanted...and I'm not even anti-Kyrie :)

They'll have 3 inconsistent "superstars" due to nagging injuries, and an inconsistent "strength-using" coach.

Re: If Kyrie leaves...
« Reply #96 on: February 24, 2019, 06:02:18 PM »

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Team of the future indeed...with all the miles on Davis, Hayward and Kyrie, and they're not even old yet.

Re: If Kyrie leaves...
« Reply #97 on: February 24, 2019, 06:13:52 PM »

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If Kyrie leaves my dream draft becomes

Garland, Bol Bol, Nassir Little  (an impossible draft for sure at our positions), even if each one of these has fallen quite far in a mock here or there.

Bol Bol total risk....hope he's good 3 years down the road.  The other two step in fairly quickly to play a role.

Starting PG is either Rozier or Rondo. or Smart with Hayward the point forward.   

Smart, Rondo, Garland
Brown, Smart
Hayward, Little, Brown, Ojeleye
Tatum, Horford, Theis
Baynes, Horford, Williams, Bol Bol
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Re: If Kyrie leaves...
« Reply #98 on: February 24, 2019, 07:07:27 PM »

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Again, what has Rozier done to make anyone say he's for his next contract? In the games he's started they've won most. He's not a big assist guy but he gets Ws. He hasn't complained about minutes. Imagine where we'd be if we had to go straight to Wanamaker just because Kyrie is out.

The hate on Rozier is crazy. When he gets erratic, take him out. When Kyrie has an off game he keeps jacking.
Maybe it’s him consistently looking for his own numbers, whether they be points or rebounds, to the consistent detriment of the team?

He doesn’t get erratic. He comes in bad, is bad in the middle and finishes bad.

Kyrie keeps jacking because he has over half a decade of play proving that he can score almost anywhere on anyone. Terry has none

Wow, this is just hate on Rozier. Where would we be without him? As soon as him and Brown come in the game, they change the pace. They are bench players what do you expect? When they've started they've played well.

Hayward has stunk the entire season and I see no one getting on him. He has taken mins from everyone.
It might be hate. That’s certainly likely, actually. I hate everything he brings to our team, so I can’t deny that.

What do you mean where would we be?? He consistently hurts us in games. If you’re talking about our meaningless, or even detrimental playoff run last year, then I don’t care.
I expect bench players to not be garbage.

Have you even been on this board at all? There is a very vocal group of Hayward haters, from calling him “garbage pre-injury” to “Evan Turner 2.0”.
And with all that said and with all his lows, Hayward has still easily been better than Rozier this season.
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PG: Terry Porter (90-91) / Steve Francis (00-01)
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Re: If Kyrie leaves...
« Reply #99 on: February 24, 2019, 07:55:35 PM »

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Kyrie is a empty stat sheet stuffer. His stats don't equate to wins.

Stop blaming Brown. He's a bench player and not even getting major minutes.

This team is disjointed. I truly feel none of them like playing with Kyrie. Its obvious.
It really is funny when people say a guy who averaged 30/4/3 in a historic Finals comeback, including hitting one of the biggest shots in NBA history to win a championship, produces stats that don't lead to wins.

Literally can't make this stuff up
 

Sure his stats mattered in that finals while playing with lebron...they wouldve  been a lottery team without lebron.

Interesting. So Lebron singlehandedly beat the 73 win Warriors all by himself in the Finals? How about that. Were there 4 clones of Lebron on the court at the same time?

Never said lebron singlehandedly beat the warriors..I admitted kyries stats mattered? On a team where lebron was the clear leader... kyrie wanted out of his shadow and hasn't been able to be that guy

Re: If Kyrie leaves...
« Reply #100 on: February 24, 2019, 09:52:38 PM »

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If Kyrie leaves...I'll enjoy watching the C's more than I have this year.  Its been miserable.  I'm tired of his bullEdited.  Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline. and I hope Danny gets this fixed somehow and the Drama Queen moves on.

Re: If Kyrie leaves...
« Reply #101 on: February 24, 2019, 09:53:16 PM »

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If Kyrie did leave (which would probably also mean no AD in play), I would probably make Gordon Hayward the point guard next season.

I know that sounds strange, but he seems to be the type of player that constantly needs the ball and think he would be very effective in that role.

Then plug in Jaylen, Tatum, Horford and a center with the MLE (Dedmon, Randle, R. Lopez, Noel, etc.)

I'd also let Rozier walk and sign another back-up point guard (maybe Shelvin Mack, whom Stevens knows from Butler)

Smart would also come off the bench as a combo guard.

Try to package all of our picks and move in the draft and try to get in the top 5.

We'd still be a playoff team without Kyrie and it wouldn't affect my fandom in the team at all (though I'd rather see him stay.)

Re: If Kyrie leaves...
« Reply #102 on: February 24, 2019, 09:53:54 PM »

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Kyrie is a empty stat sheet stuffer. His stats don't equate to wins.

Stop blaming Brown. He's a bench player and not even getting major minutes.

This team is disjointed. I truly feel none of them like playing with Kyrie. Its obvious.
It really is funny when people say a guy who averaged 30/4/3 in a historic Finals comeback, including hitting one of the biggest shots in NBA history to win a championship, produces stats that don't lead to wins.

Literally can't make this stuff up
 

Sure his stats mattered in that finals while playing with lebron...they wouldve  been a lottery team without lebron.

Interesting. So Lebron singlehandedly beat the 73 win Warriors all by himself in the Finals? How about that. Were there 4 clones of Lebron on the court at the same time?

Never said lebron singlehandedly beat the warriors..I admitted kyries stats mattered? On a team where lebron was the clear leader... kyrie wanted out of his shadow and hasn't been able to be that guy

Not yet. Let's how he does in the playoffs.

Re: If Kyrie leaves...
« Reply #103 on: February 24, 2019, 10:26:26 PM »

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If he leaves sign Kemba Walker.

Re: If Kyrie leaves...
« Reply #104 on: February 24, 2019, 10:27:42 PM »

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If he leaves sign Kemba Walker.
With what money?

We won't have near the cap space for a max-deserving player such as Kemba
'23 Historical Draft: Orlando Magic.

PG: Terry Porter (90-91) / Steve Francis (00-01)
SG: Joe Dumars (92-93) / Jeff Hornacek (91-92) / Jerry Stackhouse (00-01)
SF: Brandon Roy (08-09) / Walter Davis (78-79)
PF: Terry Cummings (84-85) / Paul Millsap (15-16)
C: Chris Webber (00-01) / Ralph Sampson (83-84) / Andrew Bogut (09-10)