Horford Can Help Financially

[Fierce1]

What if Horford opts out of his contract and the Celtics guarantee him a new contract for 2 years worth 30m.
That's 15m per year for 2 more years after this season.

Right now Horford has 1 year and 30m remaining after this season.

Splitting the 30m for 2 years will help the Celts salary cap situation.

[Jiri Welsch]

I think Horford will undoubtedly to a pay cut eventually. However, I am almost certain we will remain over the cap regardless of what Horford does.

[Fierce1]

I think Horford will undoubtedly to a pay cut eventually. However, I am almost certain we will remain over the cap regardless of what Horford does.

Yes, Celts will still be over the cap.

But this will prevent the Celts from entering luxury tax territory.

[nickagneta]

I think the more likely scenario is Horford opting out to sign a 4 year $68-72 million deal. That deal gives him a $17-18 million a year salary. It's the equivalent of him signing a 3 year $13-14 million a year extension after this season.

That saves $12-13 million next year that can be spent on Kyrie's contract and/or re-signing Morris or Rozier. It would really reduce the inevitable tax bill by millions.

[Roy H.]

What if Horford opts out of his contract and the Celtics guarantee him a new contract for 2 years worth 30m.
That's 15m per year for 2 more years after this season.

Right now Horford has 1 year and 30m remaining after this season.

Splitting the 30m for 2 years will help the Celts salary cap situation.

You’re asking him to play for free in that second year.

I agree with nick; a 3-4 year deal makes more sense.  Three years, $58 million? It’s essentially the $30 million he would make, plus two more years at $14 million each. I’m not sure if that would get it done, but it’s how it should be considered.

[Fierce1]

What if Horford opts out of his contract and the Celtics guarantee him a new contract for 2 years worth 30m.
That's 15m per year for 2 more years after this season.

Right now Horford has 1 year and 30m remaining after this season.

Splitting the 30m for 2 years will help the Celts salary cap situation.

You’re asking him to play for free in that second year.

I agree with nick; a 3-4 year deal makes more sense.  Three years, $58 million? It’s essentially the $30 million he would make, plus two more years at $14 million each. I’m not sure if that would get it done, but it’s how it should be considered.

Horford's turning 33 in June.
He's also averaging a career low in points and rebounds.
I think a compromise would be 13m per year for 3 years?

Avoiding the luxury tax next season would really give the Celts a big boost, financially, in the long run.

[nickagneta]

What if Horford opts out of his contract and the Celtics guarantee him a new contract for 2 years worth 30m.
That's 15m per year for 2 more years after this season.

Right now Horford has 1 year and 30m remaining after this season.

Splitting the 30m for 2 years will help the Celts salary cap situation.

You’re asking him to play for free in that second year.

I agree with nick; a 3-4 year deal makes more sense.  Three years, $58 million? It’s essentially the $30 million he would make, plus two more years at $14 million each. I’m not sure if that would get it done, but it’s how it should be considered.

Horford's turning 33 in June.
He's also averaging a career low in points and rebounds.
I think a compromise would be 13m per year for 3 years?

Avoiding the luxury tax next season would really give the Celts a big boost, financially, in the long run.

So you are asking Horford to opt out $30 million next year so he can make only $9 million extra in 3 years? That isn't close to being enough. I think a fair compromise for both Horford and the Celtics is for Horford to make about $15 -18 million a year for 4 years. That gives Horford his $30 million he would have earned plus another $10-13 million for 3 years. That $10-13 million is quite fair for one of the best passing bigs in the league, who is a very good three point shooting stretch big and one of the best team defenders in the league. Unless he drops off some cliff in his game, that should be a contract that, at the end of it, will look like a it was money well spent.

[C3LTSF4N]

I think the more likely scenario is Horford opting out to sign a 4 year $68-72 million deal. That deal gives him a $17-18 million a year salary. It's the equivalent of him signing a 3 year $13-14 million a year extension after this season.

That saves $12-13 million next year that can be spent on Kyrie's contract and/or re-signing Morris or Rozier. It would really reduce the inevitable tax bill by millions.

I think this is what we’ll be seeing. 

[Fierce1]

What if Horford opts out of his contract and the Celtics guarantee him a new contract for 2 years worth 30m.
That's 15m per year for 2 more years after this season.

Right now Horford has 1 year and 30m remaining after this season.

Splitting the 30m for 2 years will help the Celts salary cap situation.

You’re asking him to play for free in that second year.

I agree with nick; a 3-4 year deal makes more sense.  Three years, $58 million? It’s essentially the $30 million he would make, plus two more years at $14 million each. I’m not sure if that would get it done, but it’s how it should be considered.

Horford's turning 33 in June.
He's also averaging a career low in points and rebounds.
I think a compromise would be 13m per year for 3 years?

Avoiding the luxury tax next season would really give the Celts a big boost, financially, in the long run.

So you are asking Horford to opt out $30 million next year so he can make only $9 million extra in 3 years? That isn't close to being enough. I think a fair compromise for both Horford and the Celtics is for Horford to make about $15 -18 million a year for 4 years. That gives Horford his $30 million he would have earned plus another $10-13 million for 3 years. That $10-13 million is quite fair for one of the best passing bigs in the league, who is a very good three point shooting stretch big and one of the best team defenders in the league. Unless he drops off some cliff in his game, that should be a contract that, at the end of it, will look like a it was money well spent.

I think Horford will only be good for another 2 seasons after this one.
He's just not the same Horford that I'm used to seeing when he first came to Boston.

This season Horford is averaging a career low in points and rebounds.
I don't think it's wise to keep him for 4 more years.

The money and the number of years can be debated.
But one thing's for sure, if Horford opts out to redo his contract, it will really help the Celts in the present and in the near future.

[jpotter33]

What if Horford opts out of his contract and the Celtics guarantee him a new contract for 2 years worth 30m.
That's 15m per year for 2 more years after this season.

Right now Horford has 1 year and 30m remaining after this season.

Splitting the 30m for 2 years will help the Celts salary cap situation.

You’re asking him to play for free in that second year.

I agree with nick; a 3-4 year deal makes more sense.  Three years, $58 million? It’s essentially the $30 million he would make, plus two more years at $14 million each. I’m not sure if that would get it done, but it’s how it should be considered.

Horford's turning 33 in June.
He's also averaging a career low in points and rebounds.
I think a compromise would be 13m per year for 3 years?

Avoiding the luxury tax next season would really give the Celts a big boost, financially, in the long run.

So you are asking Horford to opt out $30 million next year so he can make only $9 million extra in 3 years? That isn't close to being enough. I think a fair compromise for both Horford and the Celtics is for Horford to make about $15 -18 million a year for 4 years. That gives Horford his $30 million he would have earned plus another $10-13 million for 3 years. That $10-13 million is quite fair for one of the best passing bigs in the league, who is a very good three point shooting stretch big and one of the best team defenders in the league. Unless he drops off some cliff in his game, that should be a contract that, at the end of it, will look like a it was money well spent.

I think Horford will only be good for another 2 seasons after this one.
He's just not the same Horford that I'm used to seeing when he first came to Boston.

This season Horford is averaging a career low in points and rebounds.
I don't think it's wise to keep him for 4 more years.

Then you must not have been paying attention recently. Since recovering from his knee soreness, which really slowed him down early in the season, he’s been playing as good as ever since mid-January or so. He’s a big part of us winning 12 of our last 16 and 8 of our last 9.

[jambr380]

4 years at $60M seems fair. It is essentially $30M next season plus $10M/yr for the next 3 (broken up into $15M/yr increments). I know it sounds a little paltry in the later years, but Al isn’t exactly a spring chicken and the Cs have paid him very handsomely.

If he declines, I let him pick up his option and then figure out a deal that works when he is a FA, or let him walk unfortunately.