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Let's approach this from a different angle.
« on: February 02, 2019, 04:42:51 PM »

Offline positivitize

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I've seen a lot of buzz going around about Kyrie leaving for the New York Knicks.

Let's try it this way. You are the Knicks. It's your job to pitch Kyrie. What can you say or do to make the situation in NY better than the situation in BOS?

For this thought exercise, we're going to assume Boston makes the ECF and loses in 7 Games (same as last year) and that no one on Boston is seriously injured at the end of the season. We're also assuming Hayward continues his inconsistent play, with a slight trend upwards in performance, and that Smart's shooting doesn't fall off a cliff.

Be New York. Make your pitch for Kyrie to come to the Knicks.

My biases, in order of fervor:
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Smart, Brown, Hayward, Tatum, Kemba, Grant Williams, Sleepy Williams, Edwards!

Anti:
Kanter, Semi, Theis, Poierier

Re: Let's approach this from a different angle.
« Reply #1 on: February 02, 2019, 05:01:28 PM »

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I've seen a lot of buzz going around about Kyrie leaving for the New York Knicks.

Let's try it this way. You are the Knicks. It's your job to pitch Kyrie. What can you say or do to make the situation in NY better than the situation in BOS?

For this thought exercise, we're going to assume Boston makes the ECF and loses in 7 Games (same as last year) and that no one on Boston is seriously injured at the end of the season. We're also assuming Hayward continues his inconsistent play, with a slight trend upwards in performance, and that Smart's shooting doesn't fall off a cliff.

Be New York. Make your pitch for Kyrie to come to the Knicks.
You just wait for Durant to sign and trade Zion for Davis. 
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Re: Let's approach this from a different angle.
« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2019, 05:11:32 PM »

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Here's my stab at it.

Hey Kyrie, you know Danny Ainge is a jerk, right? He'll trade you in a heartbeat if it will benefit his team. The market is bigger here in NYC, and you can play in the Garden more often. You won't have to put up with young players that want a larger role--no one chomping at your heels to take over the team. We can offer you the same contract, but the endorsements in NY will be better than in Boston. On top of that, if you come here, another marquee free agent will also surely follow you! This can be your team, really your team, and you won't have to share the spotlight. You can bring Durant with you, right? Or Kawhi? We'll draft who you want to play with... Next season we'll roll out with You, Kawhi, RJ Barrett, Kevin Knox(he's pretty good!) and your choice of Mudiay, Smith Jr, or Frankie Smokes. Oh, you don't want Smith Jr. on the team? Fine! We'll trade him for assets. I'm sure he's worth a first-round pick, right? If you can't get Kawhi, we'll spend $ on Tobias Harris! That's surely enough to compete in the east! We'll be a playoff lock for sure!

Oh Dolan? Don't worry about him. He's got almost nothing to do with the running of the team...
My biases, in order of fervor:
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Anti:
Kanter, Semi, Theis, Poierier

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« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2019, 05:12:44 PM »

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I've seen a lot of buzz going around about Kyrie leaving for the New York Knicks.

Let's try it this way. You are the Knicks. It's your job to pitch Kyrie. What can you say or do to make the situation in NY better than the situation in BOS?

For this thought exercise, we're going to assume Boston makes the ECF and loses in 7 Games (same as last year) and that no one on Boston is seriously injured at the end of the season. We're also assuming Hayward continues his inconsistent play, with a slight trend upwards in performance, and that Smart's shooting doesn't fall off a cliff.

Be New York. Make your pitch for Kyrie to come to the Knicks.
You just wait for Durant to sign and trade Zion for Davis.

You don't think Dolan could *mess* up a big 3 of Durant, Davis, and Kyrie? I mean, your solution just moves the need to sell Kyrie on the Durant-less Knicks to the need to sell Durant on the Kyrie-less Knicks. I can see that going great... HEY DURANT, COME PLAY FOR THE KNICKS, WE'RE NOT GOOD YET BUT WE WILL BE WHEN YOU BRING KYRIE! wait, why are you walking away?
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My biases, in order of fervor:
Pro:
Smart, Brown, Hayward, Tatum, Kemba, Grant Williams, Sleepy Williams, Edwards!

Anti:
Kanter, Semi, Theis, Poierier

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« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2019, 05:16:53 PM »

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I've seen a lot of buzz going around about Kyrie leaving for the New York Knicks.

Let's try it this way. You are the Knicks. It's your job to pitch Kyrie. What can you say or do to make the situation in NY better than the situation in BOS?

For this thought exercise, we're going to assume Boston makes the ECF and loses in 7 Games (same as last year) and that no one on Boston is seriously injured at the end of the season. We're also assuming Hayward continues his inconsistent play, with a slight trend upwards in performance, and that Smart's shooting doesn't fall off a cliff.

Be New York. Make your pitch for Kyrie to come to the Knicks.
You just wait for Durant to sign and trade Zion for Davis.

Lol as if they both (a) don’t have to sell Durant on their bum franchise, and (b) don’t have to win the lottery in a new system that makes winning the lottery much more of a crap shoot and less biased to the very worst team, which they’re clearly gunning for. Yep, easy peezy- just that!  ::)

Besides, you act like simply getting the first pick means NY has the advantage, but that’s very far from clear. Many analysts out there still think Boston has the advantage even with NY getting the first pick, as NOLA really likes Tatum for obvious reasons, especially being a proven prospect unlike Zion, who still has plenty of question marks about his game translating to the NBA.
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« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2019, 05:28:07 PM »

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Just as a "funny."

Ainge trades Irving for Smith. Celtics would keep destroying the Knicks for the next decade.

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« Reply #6 on: February 02, 2019, 06:15:53 PM »

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I've seen a lot of buzz going around about Kyrie leaving for the New York Knicks.

Let's try it this way. You are the Knicks. It's your job to pitch Kyrie. What can you say or do to make the situation in NY better than the situation in BOS?

For this thought exercise, we're going to assume Boston makes the ECF and loses in 7 Games (same as last year) and that no one on Boston is seriously injured at the end of the season. We're also assuming Hayward continues his inconsistent play, with a slight trend upwards in performance, and that Smart's shooting doesn't fall off a cliff.

Be New York. Make your pitch for Kyrie to come to the Knicks.
You just wait for Durant to sign and trade Zion for Davis.

Lol as if they both (a) don’t have to sell Durant on their bum franchise, and (b) don’t have to win the lottery in a new system that makes winning the lottery much more of a crap shoot and less biased to the very worst team, which they’re clearly gunning for. Yep, easy peezy- just that!  ::)

Besides, you act like simply getting the first pick means NY has the advantage, but that’s very far from clear. Many analysts out there still think Boston has the advantage even with NY getting the first pick, as NOLA really likes Tatum for obvious reasons, especially being a proven prospect unlike Zion, who still has plenty of question marks about his game translating to the NBA.
I really don't see where people would want Zion over Tatum. I see Tatum has having a much, much higher upside and will be the better all around player.

Re: Let's approach this from a different angle.
« Reply #7 on: February 02, 2019, 06:43:29 PM »

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I guess the point of this is that NY's entire strategy is "All the top guys are friends. Let's clear enough space to land 2 top players and hope they wanna come here and play together."

I guess it's not a terrible strategy for the Knicks, who have almost nothing else to go on, but the Knicks are not going to beat the Celtics as a landing spot for Kyrie for Basketball reasons.
My biases, in order of fervor:
Pro:
Smart, Brown, Hayward, Tatum, Kemba, Grant Williams, Sleepy Williams, Edwards!

Anti:
Kanter, Semi, Theis, Poierier