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Re: Irving is just a jerk...time to move on - hope he leaves
« Reply #45 on: February 02, 2019, 10:34:35 AM »

Offline bopna

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You think Kyrie will sign elsewhere and leave a supermax on the table?

And where will he go and establish any legacy that will make him an icon... Where except Boston.

Boston can give him the supermax and the legacy...

He is just playing the media just like his earth is flat conundrum.
If he opens his mouth about staying as a celtic.. Nobody believes him.

Now he says he will explore FA and everybody is in panic mode... Lol

Threads like these just make me laugh.

Re: Irving is just a jerk...time to move on - hope he leaves
« Reply #46 on: February 02, 2019, 10:55:55 AM »

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That sounds good but he needs to reaffirm what he said in October and then stop answering questions. A no comment several times after affirming it will end the story. He keeps it going by not squashing it.

It won't be funny if he walks out the door. I d oookkk ht think a supermax is the key here. I think the lure of NY is key. He can make up that money off the court. If it's about basketball, Boston is the best choice but with this guy who knows.

Re: Irving is just a jerk...time to move on - hope he leaves
« Reply #47 on: February 02, 2019, 11:06:02 AM »

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Kyrie doesn’t strike me as a guy passing on the super max

Re: Irving is just a jerk...time to move on - hope he leaves
« Reply #48 on: February 02, 2019, 11:16:01 AM »

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Kyrie stands to lose money (and an extra contract year) if he goes elsewhere in FA, but there is no super max to offer. That option went out the door when he was traded from the Cavs.

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« Reply #49 on: February 02, 2019, 11:35:25 AM »

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Kyrie stands to lose money (and an extra contract year) if he goes elsewhere in FA, but there is no super max to offer. That option went out the door when he was traded from the Cavs.

Agreed, I always get confused when people talk about paying Kyrie a supermax... Like, he clearly isn't eligible anymore, and the fact he waived his trade kicker, and gave up millions clearly shows that he's extremely high on Celtics.

Kyrie's next contract cannot be a supermax (35%) he could only get that on the Cavs. Since he was traded he's no longer eligible.

The max Kyrie can get in Boston is 5 years 181 mil (30% max with 8% raises over 5 years).

Here is the breakdown:

Year   Salary ($ millions)
1   31.2
2   33.7
3   36.2
4   38.7
5   41.2
Total   180.1
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Re: Irving is just a jerk...time to move on - hope he leaves
« Reply #50 on: February 02, 2019, 12:16:33 PM »

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I'm tired of the Irving Drama Show - his calling Lebron to apologize and basically putting down his young teammates and his changing story on whether or not he will stay with the Celtics.

As usual, it is ALL ABOUT HIM and his so-called future as he himself recently stated publicly. 

He has a right to do what he wants to do...I have a right to decide I've had it with his act.

The Celtics as constructed are never going to win an NBA title, which is why Irving is now hedging his bets.   

I would rather the Celtics trade Irving and end up with a team that wins 50 games a year even if that means they have virtually no chance to win an NBA title.  In fact, this team won't win the East either as it looks now.

I am just tired of ego maniac players - I hope KD, Irving, Davis, James and all the other superstars all end up on 1 team.   That would be fine with me but at least if that happened I could root for the underdog Celtics and enjoy doing it.

Good Riddance Kyrie...

MikeB  longtime Celtics fan

i am tired of these stupid threads being started. once was hey lets get rid of kyrie and keep rozier! rosier is just as good. then we have one by another guy that says trade kyrie to lakers. more foolishness. now we have you sounding like your feelings are hurt and you are putting that over winning which is asinine!

KYRIE IS AND WILL BE A CELTIC! PLEASE DWI!

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Re: Irving is just a jerk...time to move on - hope he leaves
« Reply #51 on: February 02, 2019, 12:22:16 PM »

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I'm tired of the Irving Drama Show - his calling Lebron to apologize and basically putting down his young teammates and his changing story on whether or not he will stay with the Celtics.

As usual, it is ALL ABOUT HIM and his so-called future as he himself recently stated publicly. 

He has a right to do what he wants to do...I have a right to decide I've had it with his act.

The Celtics as constructed are never going to win an NBA title, which is why Irving is now hedging his bets.   

I would rather the Celtics trade Irving and end up with a team that wins 50 games a year even if that means they have virtually no chance to win an NBA title.  In fact, this team won't win the East either as it looks now.

I am just tired of ego maniac players - I hope KD, Irving, Davis, James and all the other superstars all end up on 1 team.   That would be fine with me but at least if that happened I could root for the underdog Celtics and enjoy doing it.

Good Riddance Kyrie...

MikeB  longtime Celtics fan

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Re: Irving is just a jerk...time to move on - hope he leaves
« Reply #52 on: February 02, 2019, 12:24:31 PM »

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I'm tired of the Irving Drama Show - his calling Lebron to apologize and basically putting down his young teammates and his changing story on whether or not he will stay with the Celtics.

As usual, it is ALL ABOUT HIM and his so-called future as he himself recently stated publicly. 

He has a right to do what he wants to do...I have a right to decide I've had it with his act.

The Celtics as constructed are never going to win an NBA title, which is why Irving is now hedging his bets.   

I would rather the Celtics trade Irving and end up with a team that wins 50 games a year even if that means they have virtually no chance to win an NBA title.  In fact, this team won't win the East either as it looks now.

I am just tired of ego maniac players - I hope KD, Irving, Davis, James and all the other superstars all end up on 1 team.   That would be fine with me but at least if that happened I could root for the underdog Celtics and enjoy doing it.

Good Riddance Kyrie...

MikeB  longtime Celtics fan

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LET'S GO CELTICS!

Re: Irving is just a jerk...time to move on - hope he leaves
« Reply #53 on: February 02, 2019, 12:34:53 PM »

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I'm tired of the Irving Drama Show - his calling Lebron to apologize and basically putting down his young teammates and his changing story on whether or not he will stay with the Celtics.

As usual, it is ALL ABOUT HIM and his so-called future as he himself recently stated publicly. 

He has a right to do what he wants to do...I have a right to decide I've had it with his act.

The Celtics as constructed are never going to win an NBA title, which is why Irving is now hedging his bets.   

I would rather the Celtics trade Irving and end up with a team that wins 50 games a year even if that means they have virtually no chance to win an NBA title.  In fact, this team won't win the East either as it looks now.

I am just tired of ego maniac players - I hope KD, Irving, Davis, James and all the other superstars all end up on 1 team.   That would be fine with me but at least if that happened I could root for the underdog Celtics and enjoy doing it.

Good Riddance Kyrie...

MikeB  longtime Celtics fan

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Of course you have the right to your opinion. Mine is that most of the reporting on Kyrie has been really twisting his words to try to create controversy. Here is a quote from Kyrie last night:

“I’m grateful for everybody identifying how talented I am, who wants to play with me, I’m appreciative, but at the end of the day... I’m going to make the best decision for me and my family"

I’m with karalis on this - he wrote: “I think that quote got lost in the hype last night. This sure sounds like the ‘do what's best for me’ was actually directed at the people leaking reports of him wanting to play with others rather than to the city of Boston.”

As for the younger players - Kyrie admitted he shouldn’t have gone public, but what he said was about 1/10 of what I saw routinely on these boards. KI is a competitor. He was frustrated - he’s playing the best ball of his career, even changing his game to help the team (look at his defense and assists) and he has to watch Terry Rozier playing like a knucklehead, Tatum still in love with long 2s and not getting to the line, Jaylen sometimes jogging back on D. (Where was the heat for Mook when he snapped at Jaylen on TV, by the way)?

How do people think KG treated younger players who screwed around? 

Re: Irving is just a jerk...time to move on - hope he leaves
« Reply #54 on: February 02, 2019, 12:43:04 PM »

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I'm tired of the Irving Drama Show - his calling Lebron to apologize and basically putting down his young teammates and his changing story on whether or not he will stay with the Celtics.

As usual, it is ALL ABOUT HIM and his so-called future as he himself recently stated publicly. 

He has a right to do what he wants to do...I have a right to decide I've had it with his act.

The Celtics as constructed are never going to win an NBA title, which is why Irving is now hedging his bets.   

I would rather the Celtics trade Irving and end up with a team that wins 50 games a year even if that means they have virtually no chance to win an NBA title.  In fact, this team won't win the East either as it looks now.

I am just tired of ego maniac players - I hope KD, Irving, Davis, James and all the other superstars all end up on 1 team.   That would be fine with me but at least if that happened I could root for the underdog Celtics and enjoy doing it.

Good Riddance Kyrie...

MikeB  longtime Celtics fan

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Oh no, not the MJ troll reaction gif. lol

Fans need to empower themselves.....

Re: Irving is just a jerk...time to move on - hope he leaves
« Reply #55 on: February 02, 2019, 12:51:12 PM »

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I'm tired of Celtic fans calling for the team's best player to be traded for literally no reason at all.

No reason at all?  His publicly perceived walk back about the desire to stay in Boston is certainly reason.  The question there is whether or not the team believes that was sincerely indicating that he just might prefer to be elsewhere, or was just either Kyrie being Kyrie or a momentary fancy.

Because, if the team thinks that Irving is leaning towards leaving, trading him should absolutely be something Ainge is looking into.


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Re: Irving is just a jerk...time to move on - hope he leaves
« Reply #56 on: February 02, 2019, 12:57:38 PM »

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I'm tired of the Irving Drama Show - his calling Lebron to apologize and basically putting down his young teammates and his changing story on whether or not he will stay with the Celtics.

As usual, it is ALL ABOUT HIM and his so-called future as he himself recently stated publicly. 

He has a right to do what he wants to do...I have a right to decide I've had it with his act.

The Celtics as constructed are never going to win an NBA title, which is why Irving is now hedging his bets.   

I would rather the Celtics trade Irving and end up with a team that wins 50 games a year even if that means they have virtually no chance to win an NBA title.  In fact, this team won't win the East either as it looks now.

I am just tired of ego maniac players - I hope KD, Irving, Davis, James and all the other superstars all end up on 1 team.   That would be fine with me but at least if that happened I could root for the underdog Celtics and enjoy doing it.

Good Riddance Kyrie...

MikeB  longtime Celtics fan

TP ! This is an educated fan response.

Of course you have the right to your opinion. Mine is that most of the reporting on Kyrie has been really twisting his words to try to create controversy. Here is a quote from Kyrie last night:

“I’m grateful for everybody identifying how talented I am, who wants to play with me, I’m appreciative, but at the end of the day... I’m going to make the best decision for me and my family"

I’m with karalis on this - he wrote: “I think that quote got lost in the hype last night. This sure sounds like the ‘do what's best for me’ was actually directed at the people leaking reports of him wanting to play with others rather than to the city of Boston.”

As for the younger players - Kyrie admitted he shouldn’t have gone public, but what he said was about 1/10 of what I saw routinely on these boards. KI is a competitor. He was frustrated - he’s playing the best ball of his career, even changing his game to help the team (look at his defense and assists) and he has to watch Terry Rozier playing like a knucklehead, Tatum still in love with long 2s and not getting to the line, Jaylen sometimes jogging back on D. (Where was the heat for Mook when he snapped at Jaylen on TV, by the way)?

How do people think KG treated younger players who screwed around?

The NBA will suffer if the current free agency rules are not tweaked to prevent players from colluding to form super teams
 while destroying other teams in the process. LBJ to Miami, KD to GSW dictated the balance of power in the league for years. That is not a competitive league. It is even worse when the players take less money than their market value to make the super teams possible. It is cheating. It means that a brilliant GM's (Ainge's) plan to build a contender can be quashed by a couple of colluding players and their preferred destination (Lakers) who have not done any brilliant planningin years other than just tamper and poach other team's players.

There is a reason the NBA is riding so high. People worked hard to put together a competitive league that garnered the interest of the public. The NBA better not let a new crew of players who have no idea how the league was built to come in and destroy the league.

Keep this up a little while longer and fan support will dwindle.




Re: Irving is just a jerk...time to move on - hope he leaves
« Reply #57 on: February 02, 2019, 01:04:25 PM »

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I'm tired of Celtic fans calling for the team's best player to be traded for literally no reason at all.

No reason at all?  His publicly perceived walk back about the desire to stay in Boston is certainly reason.  The question there is whether or not the team believes that was sincerely indicating that he just might prefer to be elsewhere, or was just either Kyrie being Kyrie or a momentary fancy.

Because, if the team thinks that Irving is leaning towards leaving, trading him should absolutely be something Ainge is looking into.

I’m sure the 5 minutes with the media is a completely different world from what Danny and the Celtics see from Kyrie on the regular.  It seems whenever something happens everyone acts like Celtics management is totally out of touch and approaching the situation for the first time.  Our ideas are things they’ve considered and dismissed for good reason, months ago.  They’re there everyday, we aren’t.  I’m pretty sure we’re all good here. 

Yesterday was clearly a moment of frustration from Kyrie and reaction to the media playing BS and games for the last week, messing with Kyrie’s reputation.  I’d be p---ed off too, and I can only imagine how I’d handle it if I were 26 at the time.  He gave vague answers out of spite to the media to not give them what they wanted right then and there.  He’s answered the question before, he plans on resigning.  The Celtics are confident that he’s resigning.  Leave the guy alone and don’t expect to tear him apart then receive graceful responses from him. 

Re: Irving is just a jerk...time to move on - hope he leaves
« Reply #58 on: February 02, 2019, 01:35:22 PM »

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I'm tired of Celtic fans calling for the team's best player to be traded for literally no reason at all.

No reason at all?  His publicly perceived walk back about the desire to stay in Boston is certainly reason.  The question there is whether or not the team believes that was sincerely indicating that he just might prefer to be elsewhere, or was just either Kyrie being Kyrie or a momentary fancy.

Because, if the team thinks that Irving is leaning towards leaving, trading him should absolutely be something Ainge is looking into.

I’m sure the 5 minutes with the media is a completely different world from what Danny and the Celtics see from Kyrie on the regular.  It seems whenever something happens everyone acts like Celtics management is totally out of touch and approaching the situation for the first time.  Our ideas are things they’ve considered and dismissed for good reason, months ago.  They’re there everyday, we aren’t.  I’m pretty sure we’re all good here. 

Yesterday was clearly a moment of frustration from Kyrie and reaction to the media playing BS and games for the last week, messing with Kyrie’s reputation.  I’d be p---ed off too, and I can only imagine how I’d handle it if I were 26 at the time.  He gave vague answers out of spite to the media to not give them what they wanted right then and there.  He’s answered the question before, he plans on resigning.  The Celtics are confident that he’s resigning.  Leave the guy alone and don’t expect to tear him apart then receive graceful responses from him.

You're welcome to speculate wildly the way you just have.  As fans, we all are welcome to that sort of thing.  The Celtics aren't in a position to do that, though.  They need to be as sure as possible.  If Irving is really thinking of leaving, the Celtics need to determine whether or not trading the guy is the way to go, and they only have a limited time to do that.


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Re: Irving is just a jerk...time to move on - hope he leaves
« Reply #59 on: February 02, 2019, 01:36:30 PM »

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I'm tired of the Irving Drama Show - his calling Lebron to apologize and basically putting down his young teammates and his changing story on whether or not he will stay with the Celtics.

As usual, it is ALL ABOUT HIM and his so-called future as he himself recently stated publicly. 

He has a right to do what he wants to do...I have a right to decide I've had it with his act.

The Celtics as constructed are never going to win an NBA title, which is why Irving is now hedging his bets.   

I would rather the Celtics trade Irving and end up with a team that wins 50 games a year even if that means they have virtually no chance to win an NBA title.  In fact, this team won't win the East either as it looks now.

I am just tired of ego maniac players - I hope KD, Irving, Davis, James and all the other superstars all end up on 1 team.   That would be fine with me but at least if that happened I could root for the underdog Celtics and enjoy doing it.

Good Riddance Kyrie...

MikeB  longtime Celtics fan

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Oh no, not the MJ troll reaction gif. lol

Fans need to empower themselves.....

i know you were trolling . lol  i think the OP was serious!
LET'S GO CELTICS!