Sheridan- C's 3rd on Davis list likely a rental

[Moranis]

Chris Sheridan long ago lost whatever credibility he had.

probably but there is a lot of smoke from a lot of different places.

But the fire seems to be in one place -- AD's agent, who clearly wants to steer him to the Lakers.


We heard the same stuff about Paul George and the Thunder.

perhapsbut Bontemps just did a piece on frustration from some of the younger C's.  MacMullen just said Irving is frustrated and worried about his load.  There is a lot of smoke about discourse on the C's, which Rich Paul can then use to his advantage

MacMullan also laughed when she was asked if there was truth to the rumors Kyrie might not re-sign. She said this was pure Rich Paul.

Is this true? If it really is, this should be the front page story. She has broken more stories about the Celtics than Sheridan and Boucher and whoever else combined.

yeah Jackie laughed it off. 

Kyrie might not re-sign but the idea he is leaning towards leaving has no basis in reality.

sure but it apparently is affecting Davis' view of the C's which absolutely matters

no it doesn’t.  He’s not a free agent.

but he will be 1 year after the C's could acquire him which absolutley affects if a team acquires him and for what value (thus affecting where said player ends up).  Are the C's going to give up Tatum and the potentially high picks for a 1 year rental? If not, Davis isn't a C

Think about what you are saying.  Map it out.  You’re arguing that the perceived indecisiveness of kyrie will impact whether Davis wants to play in Boston.  Boston can’t trade for Davis until kyrie hits free agency. This literally doesn’t matter right now. 

Either kyrie re-signs ... in which case it immediately negates this entire premise... or kyrie leaves ... in which case - whatever. It might not even make sense to trade for Davis at that point.

As far as how Davis feels about Boston right now - doesn’t make a [dang] difference.  If I’m him I prefer the lakers too because they can literally trade for me right now and I can get out of New Orleans immediately.

Presumably Boston would have to make the deal before the draft though, which wouldn't be finalized until after free agency opens.  How is Boston going to make that deal without knowing for sure what Irving is going to do?  And unless you are 100% sure that acquiring Davis will get Irving to stay, you have to be hesitant to make the deal.

they can discuss the deal but they aren’t going to make any deal until they know kyrie’s intentions. 

It messes up our draft for sure, but oh well.

Sure, but that is a problem.  You also have to know that Irving re-signing will guarantee that Davis re-signs, which is far from a given as well. 

That is why what Davis thinks of an organization matters. 

[jpotter33]

Davis top 3:

1 Lakers
2 Lakers
3 Lakers

Just like Leonard and Butler will go to Clippers..

And just like Paul George, Demar Derozan, LaMarcus Aldridge, etc.... oh wait...

[SHAQATTACK]

Every year lakers fail or one more year of star recruit  failure....equals more difficulty in getting a top five star .   Yeah they can get maybe get Butler or Beal level .   But not KD ,Curry , or AD .   

Missing out on Paul G . has killed them , seeing how well he s been playing.    Missed on Kawhi and its not 100% he goes,to either LA team .  Could stay put or go NY too.

LAKERS ....its do or DIE  right now .   Lebron an't winning a title without a top five help .  He can't get by GS.   They don't want to wait and see what happens to Kawhi and AD this summer.

Every year , it get harder to attract top five player to him , he is difficult person to begin with as teamate , plus all his best friends are old and washed up as well.     

If he misses on Davis .   That might hurt the whole recruiting senero while Bron is there ,  then Buss and Magic look bad for paying The Bum a kings ransom and have Nada to show for it .  If they don't get Davis,  this very well may be the ending they get.  But if AD is there , then a third or forth star will want in ... because of Davis not Bron

in other words .....like George saw ....looking in a Lakers from a basketball championship standpoint might not be as appealing by the summer .  Peoples opinions change .  Looking at a bossy 35 year old James and that circus might not seem so appealing once you take a long hard look and hear alot of other opinions.   

Davis is been feed a ton of bull from Bron and their money grubbing agent. 

Bron is running out of Suckers or victums if he can't land Davis.

If Lakers make no noise and no playoffs .   Davis has months to examine that .

Davis basketball wise might be happier with another team and just don't know it .

Lakers have a screwed up FO and Bron can't leave a coach alone.

[bknova]

Every GM and agent is going to take this opportunity to create controversy and run out to their close reporter friends.  It is their chance to give it to Ainge who has run over other front offices for a decade.     

this is not a give to Ainge. I don't know how many times I have to say this, this is a scare New Orleans into dealing him now, where the Lakers can make a competitive offer.  Once we get to the summer, the Lakers cannot compete. 

The Sixers flame out early in the playoffs and put Simmons on the table.
The Celtics enter the sweepstakes.
A team that could turn the corner quickly gets the number 1 pick (Suns, Knicks, DC).

This reason the rumors are all about the Celtics is to cast a shadow of a doubt that the Celtics will put Tatum on the table, and hoping that New Orleans panics.  Thats it. Nothing more.

Rich Paul is a problem.  Rich Paul/Lebron James is a problem that the NBA needs to address. He's not acting the best interest of all his client, just in the best interest of the only one that he cares about.

[SHAQATTACK]

Its worth a rental for nothing else but to screw up Lakers basketball for the next 10 years. 

[Eddie20]

Chris Sheridan long ago lost whatever credibility he had.

probably but there is a lot of smoke from a lot of different places.

But the fire seems to be in one place -- AD's agent, who clearly wants to steer him to the Lakers.


We heard the same stuff about Paul George and the Thunder.

perhapsbut Bontemps just did a piece on frustration from some of the younger C's.  MacMullen just said Irving is frustrated and worried about his load.  There is a lot of smoke about discourse on the C's, which Rich Paul can then use to his advantage

MacMullan also laughed when she was asked if there was truth to the rumors Kyrie might not re-sign. She said this was pure Rich Paul.

Is this true? If it really is, this should be the front page story. She has broken more stories about the Celtics than Sheridan and Boucher and whoever else combined.

yeah Jackie laughed it off. 

Kyrie might not re-sign but the idea he is leaning towards leaving has no basis in reality.

sure but it apparently is affecting Davis' view of the C's which absolutely matters

no it doesn’t.  He’s not a free agent.

but he will be 1 year after the C's could acquire him which absolutley affects if a team acquires him and for what value (thus affecting where said player ends up).  Are the C's going to give up Tatum and the potentially high picks for a 1 year rental? If not, Davis isn't a C

Think about what you are saying.  Map it out.  You’re arguing that the perceived indecisiveness of kyrie will impact whether Davis wants to play in Boston.  Boston can’t trade for Davis until kyrie hits free agency. This literally doesn’t matter right now. 

Either kyrie re-signs ... in which case it immediately negates this entire premise... or kyrie leaves ... in which case - whatever. It might not even make sense to trade for Davis at that point.

As far as how Davis feels about Boston right now - doesn’t make a [dang] difference.  If I’m him I prefer the lakers too because they can literally trade for me right now and I can get out of New Orleans immediately.

I take full credit in removing you from the dark side.

So anyone that gives you a TP should also give me one too because this take wouldn’t have happened without our chat.

[Celtics4ever]

He was however, one of the first ones to report that Lebron was going back to Cleveland after leaving Miami in 2014.

A broken clock is right twice a day, too.

[LarBrd33]

Chris Sheridan long ago lost whatever credibility he had.

probably but there is a lot of smoke from a lot of different places.

But the fire seems to be in one place -- AD's agent, who clearly wants to steer him to the Lakers.


We heard the same stuff about Paul George and the Thunder.

perhapsbut Bontemps just did a piece on frustration from some of the younger C's.  MacMullen just said Irving is frustrated and worried about his load.  There is a lot of smoke about discourse on the C's, which Rich Paul can then use to his advantage

MacMullan also laughed when she was asked if there was truth to the rumors Kyrie might not re-sign. She said this was pure Rich Paul.

Is this true? If it really is, this should be the front page story. She has broken more stories about the Celtics than Sheridan and Boucher and whoever else combined.

yeah Jackie laughed it off. 

Kyrie might not re-sign but the idea he is leaning towards leaving has no basis in reality.

sure but it apparently is affecting Davis' view of the C's which absolutely matters

no it doesn’t.  He’s not a free agent.

but he will be 1 year after the C's could acquire him which absolutley affects if a team acquires him and for what value (thus affecting where said player ends up).  Are the C's going to give up Tatum and the potentially high picks for a 1 year rental? If not, Davis isn't a C

Think about what you are saying.  Map it out.  You’re arguing that the perceived indecisiveness of kyrie will impact whether Davis wants to play in Boston.  Boston can’t trade for Davis until kyrie hits free agency. This literally doesn’t matter right now. 

Either kyrie re-signs ... in which case it immediately negates this entire premise... or kyrie leaves ... in which case - whatever. It might not even make sense to trade for Davis at that point.

As far as how Davis feels about Boston right now - doesn’t make a [dang] difference.  If I’m him I prefer the lakers too because they can literally trade for me right now and I can get out of New Orleans immediately.

I take full credit in removing you from the dark side.

So anyone that gives you a TP should also give me one too because this take wouldn’t have happened without our chat.

Lol fair enough. 

[ozgod]

Stopped reading the article when I saw it was Sheridan

[Phantom255x]

I find this part laughable:

The Lakers still remain the most desirable destination for Davis, who would team with James, Rajon Rondo, JaVale McGee, Lance Stephenson (and presumably Carmelo Anthony) to form a veteran core that could compete with any team in the West this season, and L.A. would still have cap space to work with in the summer of 2019 to add a third max player.

Love playoff Rondo, but really? That team is contending with the Warriors?? And remember, once the trade happens with presumably all their young talent (Ball, Ingram, Kuzma, Hart, Zubac - or 4 of the 5), they have no bench for the rest of the year. And LOL at the Carmelo suggestion. And to acquire said third max star, they'd pretty much have to lose at least 2 (or all) of Lance, Rondo and McGee I assume this summer and likely Zubac too (if another team offers him a good deal).

Oh and the Lakers are probably making the playoffs as a 7-8 seed (currently 2 games out of the 8 seed I think) so they could very well go one-and-done against the Warriors right away.

[LarBrd33]

I find this part laughable:

The Lakers still remain the most desirable destination for Davis, who would team with James, Rajon Rondo, JaVale McGee, Lance Stephenson (and presumably Carmelo Anthony) to form a veteran core that could compete with any team in the West this season, and L.A. would still have cap space to work with in the summer of 2019 to add a third max player.

Love playoff Rondo, but really? That team is contending with the Warriors?? And remember, once the trade happens with presumably all their young talent (Ball, Ingram, Kuzma, Hart, Zubac - or 4 of the 5), they have no bench for the rest of the year. And LOL at the Carmelo suggestion. And to acquire said third max star, they'd pretty much have to lose at least 2 (or all) of Lance, Rondo and McGee I assume this summer and likely Zubac too (if another team offers him a good deal).

Oh and the Lakers are probably making the playoffs as a 7-8 seed (currently 2 games out of the 8 seed I think) so they could very well go one-and-done against the Warriors right away.

Playoff Rondo is a myth.  Give Jayson Tatum 42.6 minutes per game like Rondo averaged in the 2012 playoffs (instead of the 31 minutes per game he currently gets) and Tatum averages 22.1 points, 8.5 rebounds, 2.5 assists.  Rondo's per minute production was always pretty similar they just jacked up his minutes a ton and he stepped up a little.

[Phantom255x]

I find this part laughable:

The Lakers still remain the most desirable destination for Davis, who would team with James, Rajon Rondo, JaVale McGee, Lance Stephenson (and presumably Carmelo Anthony) to form a veteran core that could compete with any team in the West this season, and L.A. would still have cap space to work with in the summer of 2019 to add a third max player.

Love playoff Rondo, but really? That team is contending with the Warriors?? And remember, once the trade happens with presumably all their young talent (Ball, Ingram, Kuzma, Hart, Zubac - or 4 of the 5), they have no bench for the rest of the year. And LOL at the Carmelo suggestion. And to acquire said third max star, they'd pretty much have to lose at least 2 (or all) of Lance, Rondo and McGee I assume this summer and likely Zubac too (if another team offers him a good deal).

Oh and the Lakers are probably making the playoffs as a 7-8 seed (currently 2 games out of the 8 seed I think) so they could very well go one-and-done against the Warriors right away.

Playoff Rondo is a myth.  Give Jayson Tatum 42.6 minutes per game like Rondo averaged in the 2012 playoffs (instead of the 31 minutes per game he currently gets) and Tatum averages 22.1 points, 8.5 rebounds, 2.5 assists.  Rondo's per minute production was always pretty similar they just jacked up his minutes a ton and he stepped up a little.

Still fun to watch in the playoffs. And it doesn't matter, that team + Melo and no bench isn't beating the Warriors anyways. Probably not the Nuggets or Rockets either.

[gouki88]

I find this part laughable:

The Lakers still remain the most desirable destination for Davis, who would team with James, Rajon Rondo, JaVale McGee, Lance Stephenson (and presumably Carmelo Anthony) to form a veteran core that could compete with any team in the West this season, and L.A. would still have cap space to work with in the summer of 2019 to add a third max player.

Love playoff Rondo, but really? That team is contending with the Warriors?? And remember, once the trade happens with presumably all their young talent (Ball, Ingram, Kuzma, Hart, Zubac - or 4 of the 5), they have no bench for the rest of the year. And LOL at the Carmelo suggestion. And to acquire said third max star, they'd pretty much have to lose at least 2 (or all) of Lance, Rondo and McGee I assume this summer and likely Zubac too (if another team offers him a good deal).

Oh and the Lakers are probably making the playoffs as a 7-8 seed (currently 2 games out of the 8 seed I think) so they could very well go one-and-done against the Warriors right away.

Playoff Rondo is a myth.  Give Jayson Tatum 42.6 minutes per game like Rondo averaged in the 2012 playoffs (instead of the 31 minutes per game he currently gets) and Tatum averages 22.1 points, 8.5 rebounds, 2.5 assists.  Rondo's per minute production was always pretty similar they just jacked up his minutes a ton and he stepped up a little.

It's definitely been real over the last 2 seasons. 11.3-12.7-8.3-2 in the playoffs vs 11.4-11-5.7-1.4 in the regular season.

Plus, it's not as easy to match your regular season per minute production when you're strictly playing teams that are in the top half of the league, and are playing harder than they do in the regular season.

[BringToughnessBack]

Maybe we should start a section in the forum called hacks and unsubstantiated rumors. AD’s agent is working 24-7 now...kudos to him for having all of the slime ready to hit at the right time.

[footey]

Chris Sheridan long ago lost whatever credibility he had.

probably but there is a lot of smoke from a lot of different places.

But the fire seems to be in one place -- AD's agent, who clearly wants to steer him to the Lakers.


We heard the same stuff about Paul George and the Thunder.

perhapsbut Bontemps just did a piece on frustration from some of the younger C's.  MacMullen just said Irving is frustrated and worried about his load.  There is a lot of smoke about discourse on the C's, which Rich Paul can then use to his advantage

MacMullan also laughed when she was asked if there was truth to the rumors Kyrie might not re-sign. She said this was pure Rich Paul.

Is this true? If it really is, this should be the front page story. She has broken more stories about the Celtics than Sheridan and Boucher and whoever else combined.

yeah Jackie laughed it off. 

Kyrie might not re-sign but the idea he is leaning towards leaving has no basis in reality.

sure but it apparently is affecting Davis' view of the C's which absolutely matters

no it doesn’t.  He’s not a free agent.

but he will be 1 year after the C's could acquire him which absolutley affects if a team acquires him and for what value (thus affecting where said player ends up).  Are the C's going to give up Tatum and the potentially high picks for a 1 year rental? If not, Davis isn't a C

Think about what you are saying.  Map it out.  You’re arguing that the perceived indecisiveness of kyrie will impact whether Davis wants to play in Boston.  Boston can’t trade for Davis until kyrie hits free agency. This literally doesn’t matter right now. 

Either kyrie re-signs ... in which case it immediately negates this entire premise... or kyrie leaves ... in which case - whatever. It might not even make sense to trade for Davis at that point.

As far as how Davis feels about Boston right now - doesn’t make a [dang] difference.  If I’m him I prefer the lakers too because they can literally trade for me right now and I can get out of New Orleans immediately.

Presumably Boston would have to make the deal before the draft though, which wouldn't be finalized until after free agency opens.  How is Boston going to make that deal without knowing for sure what Irving is going to do?  And unless you are 100% sure that acquiring Davis will get Irving to stay, you have to be hesitant to make the deal.

they can discuss the deal but they aren’t going to make any deal until they know kyrie’s intentions. 

It messes up our draft for sure, but oh well.

Sure, but that is a problem.  You also have to know that Irving re-signing will guarantee that Davis re-signs, which is far from a given as well. 

That is why what Davis thinks of an organization matters.

It is irrelevant what Davis thinks about Kyrie. What is relevant is whether management believes these rumors. My best guess is that Ainge is in constant contact with Irving to confirm his commitment to the team, which would explain why Ainge has reportedly assured Pels management he is willing to make a godfather offer. He wouldn’t do that unless he was confident Kyrie was re-signing.